Bio-Broly (Completed) vs. Bojack (Transformed) - Page 2

Super Ultimate Gohan · 02-29-2008

Well MSS Gohan Cell Games was more powerful than MSS Kakarrot it's even stated in the manga, so really if you think about it completed broli would be at kakarrot's level at the cell games. I think in movie 8 kakarrot had reached the MSS level for that one attack, but was far weaker than his level in the cell games...However adult gohan MSS was also weaker than MSS kakarrot cell games, so what movie 10 broli did to gohan wasn't really impressive, considering the fact that gohan lost a good portion of his MSS power alone, not even counting his SS2 level.

So in my opinion if Adult Gohan SS2 took on transformed Bojack it would end different then their last battle. I believe it would be more like a SS kakarrot VS. Frieza fight, and the same if complete broli and transformed bojack ever faced off, I mean their would be a lil more gap but still would be along the same kind of fight.

Ryat! · 02-29-2008

Broly, easily.

Bio-Broly was utter crap.. quite literally. His process, once complete, was claimed to be the strongest Broly yet. How the scientists would know how strong Broly was or better yet, who he was, we'll never know. We can only guess that he'd be stronger than his appearence in movie 10, who is stated to be slightly stronger than Bojack.

Evil Vegeta · 02-29-2008

I don't think so. Bojack doesn't even show that he can fight a SSJ2. It was two hits, and the fight was over. While SSJ2 teen Gohan was much weaker, I doubt it was so much, to a point, where he would have trouble fighting Cell at his maximum, or Bojack. That would be like sayin; MSSJ Goku (Buu arc) would easily thrash SSJ2 Gohan.

I think Bojack is around Cell's maximum power, that's why I mentioned him.

Super Ultimate Gohan · 02-29-2008

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Originally Posted by Ryat!

Broly, easily.

Bio-Broly was utter crap.. quite literally. His process, once complete, was claimed to be the strongest Broly yet. How the scientists would know how strong Broly was or better yet, who he was, we'll never know. We can only guess that he'd be stronger than his appearence in movie 10, who is stated to be slightly stronger than Bojack.

How could complete broli be stronger when the real broli lost to 2 weakend MSS and a weakend base trunks offering a distraction. And Bojack was defeated by Gohan at his best power?

Broly The LSSJ · 02-29-2008

Broly would've layed the smackdown on Bojack...the bioengineering made him "stronger than ever" so he was a little stronger than in Movie 10.

Super Ultimate Gohan · 02-29-2008

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Originally Posted by BrolytheLSSJ

Broly would've layed the smackdown on Bojack...the bioengineering made him "stronger than ever" so he was a little stronger than in Movie 10.

Yea a little, which would place him between cell Games FPSS or Complete Cell maxed out, but it still took more power to defeat Bojack.

But nothing greater than that, sinse in movie 8 at the end for those few seconds was a FPSS, which would be weaker then Cell Games FPSS Gohan.

Vegerotto · 02-29-2008

I've heard from sources that the Daizenshuu states Gohan at SSJ2 during Movie 10, but I haven't found any proof for that. Could anyone verify/discredit that statement?

I personally believe Gohan as a SSJ2 during Movie 10 due to a few things. Firstly, he knew Broly's power, why wouldn't he go to his maximum strength when fighting him. Secondly, people stating that he wasn't angry enough are mistaken. In the Japanese sub version, after Broly launches the Chi blast that knocks out Trunks, Goten and Videl, Gohan yells out "YOU ASSHOLE!" and then transforms. This transformation is slower than previous MSSJ transformations, which should be near instantaneous due to it being their bodies trained base form. Gohan powered up to SSJ2, occasionally taking Broly by surprise but never making him recoil in pain, just shock.

It's just my opinion as to Gohan's SSJ state during Movie 10, and I don't want to turn this thread into what all other Broly threads have become, but I haven't seen any definite information proving/disproving Gohan's SSJ state in this movie.

In b4 "BROLY COULD TOTALLY TAKE DOWN SSJ4 GOGETA1!1111!!!!!1"

Super Ultimate Gohan · 02-29-2008

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Originally Posted by Vegerotto

I've heard from sources that the Daizenshuu states Gohan at SSJ2 during Movie 10, but I haven't found any proof for that. Could anyone verify/discredit that statement?

I personally believe Gohan as a SSJ2 during Movie 10 due to a few things. Firstly, he knew Broly's power, why wouldn't he go to his maximum strength when fighting him. Secondly, people stating that he wasn't angry enough are mistaken. In the Japanese sub version, after Broly launches the Chi blast that knocks out Trunks, Goten and Videl, Gohan yells out "YOU ASSHOLE!" and then transforms. This transformation is slower than previous MSSJ transformations, which should be near instantaneous due to it being their bodies trained base form. Gohan powered up to SSJ2, occasionally taking Broly by surprise but never making him recoil in pain, just shock.

It's just my opinion as to Gohan's SSJ state during Movie 10, and I don't want to turn this thread into what all other Broly threads have become, but I haven't seen any definite information proving/disproving Gohan's SSJ state in this movie.

In b4 "BROLY COULD TOTALLY TAKE DOWN SSJ4 GOGETA1!1111!!!!!1"

To your first part I will deal with your last statement in a minute, go look at the manga 1. where adult gohan is SS, then when he is SS2, then go watch movie 10 again and you'll see Gohan was "Not" SS2. Gohan still feared his arrogance at SS2, so he wouldn't go SS2.

And idk where you think that, in movie 10 it took 2 weakend MSS, then base form trunks distracting also weakend, And that was no where near an SS2 power level. So there is no way in hell Broli could ever be anywhere near the power of a SS4.

Vegerotto · 02-29-2008

It was sarcasm, note the "In b4" preceding my statement.

Super Ultimate Gohan · 02-29-2008

Hahaha. good one then, how about Broli's power can be compared to the power of where Vegetto would be if he went SS4

Vegerotto · 02-29-2008

I was just thinking about it again, and you're right, Bojack would easily destroy Broly. Not because Bojack's max is stronger than Broly's max, but because from what I recall, Bojack doesn't look ANYTHING like Goku, meaning Broly at best would be at SSJ1 during their fight.

~~Dark Skywalker~~ · 02-29-2008

Bojack......................no question about it

Senzu_Bean · 02-29-2008

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Originally Posted by Vegerotto

They stated that this Broly would be "stronger than ever" or something like that, so I'm assuming they mean stronger than Movie 10. I believe that Broly was already stronger than Full Powered Bojack in Movie 10, so I'm guessing that a fully complete Clone Broly would beat him as well.

Same here.

Super Ultimate Gohan · 02-29-2008

I doubt that, especially if he was completed he would be more powerful than before...So he would still go LSS, but would be at Max Perfect Cell at best, so in my opinion now it would come down to who makes the first mistake.

Broly The LSSJ · 03-01-2008

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Originally Posted by Super Ultimate Gohan

Yea a little, which would place him between cell Games FPSS or Complete Cell maxed out, but it still took more power to defeat Bojack.

But nothing greater than that, sinse in movie 8 at the end for those few seconds was a FPSS, which would be weaker then Cell Games FPSS Gohan.

Goku at the end with more power was stronger than MSSJ Gohan since he was already a MSSJ but got the extra boost.

Even though SSJ2 Teen Gohan beat Bojack, it doesn't mean you have to be that powerful to beat him because Gohan's level was overkill. Movie 8 Broly's full strength could take out Bojack.

In Bio Broly, I would place his full power around Fat Buu which is a good deal weaker than SSJ3 Goku.

02-29-2008	#16 (permalink)
Super Ultimate Gohan (21) Majin Warrior Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 1,638 Rep Power: 5	Re: Bio-Broly (Completed) vs. Bojack (Transformed) Well MSS Gohan Cell Games was more powerful than MSS Kakarrot it's even stated in the manga, so really if you think about it completed broli would be at kakarrot's level at the cell games. I think in movie 8 kakarrot had reached the MSS level for that one attack, but was far weaker than his level in the cell games...However adult gohan MSS was also weaker than MSS kakarrot cell games, so what movie 10 broli did to gohan wasn't really impressive, considering the fact that gohan lost a good portion of his MSS power alone, not even counting his SS2 level. So in my opinion if Adult Gohan SS2 took on transformed Bojack it would end different then their last battle. I believe it would be more like a SS kakarrot VS. Frieza fight, and the same if complete broli and transformed bojack ever faced off, I mean their would be a lil more gap but still would be along the same kind of fight. __________________ *"Yes it has been too long, now I am back and better than ever!"*

02-29-2008	#20 (permalink)
Broly The LSSJ (15) Super Namekian Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 465 Rep Power: 10	Re: Bio-Broly (Completed) vs. Bojack (Transformed) Broly would've layed the smackdown on Bojack...the bioengineering made him "stronger than ever" so he was a little stronger than in Movie 10. __________________ "I Will Teach You The Meaning of Pain!" If you are a DBZ fan, please join this forum so we can bring it back: http://ultimatedbz.phpbbhosts.co.uk/index.php

02-29-2008	#22 (permalink)
Vegerotto (14) Warrior of Namek Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 370 Rep Power: 11	Re: Bio-Broly (Completed) vs. Bojack (Transformed) I've heard from sources that the Daizenshuu states Gohan at SSJ2 during Movie 10, but I haven't found any proof for that. Could anyone verify/discredit that statement? I personally believe Gohan as a SSJ2 during Movie 10 due to a few things. Firstly, he knew Broly's power, why wouldn't he go to his maximum strength when fighting him. Secondly, people stating that he wasn't angry enough are mistaken. In the Japanese sub version, after Broly launches the Chi blast that knocks out Trunks, Goten and Videl, Gohan yells out "YOU ASSHOLE!" and then transforms. This transformation is slower than previous MSSJ transformations, which should be near instantaneous due to it being their bodies trained base form. Gohan powered up to SSJ2, occasionally taking Broly by surprise but never making him recoil in pain, just shock. It's just my opinion as to Gohan's SSJ state during Movie 10, and I don't want to turn this thread into what all other Broly threads have become, but I haven't seen any definite information proving/disproving Gohan's SSJ state in this movie. In b4 "BROLY COULD TOTALLY TAKE DOWN SSJ4 GOGETA1!1111!!!!!1"

02-29-2008	#24 (permalink)
Vegerotto (14) Warrior of Namek Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 370 Rep Power: 11	Re: Bio-Broly (Completed) vs. Bojack (Transformed) It was sarcasm, note the "In b4" preceding my statement.

02-29-2008	#25 (permalink)
Super Ultimate Gohan (21) Majin Warrior Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 1,638 Rep Power: 5	Re: Bio-Broly (Completed) vs. Bojack (Transformed) Hahaha. good one then, how about Broli's power can be compared to the power of where Vegetto would be if he went SS4 __________________ *"Yes it has been too long, now I am back and better than ever!"*

02-29-2008	#26 (permalink)
Vegerotto (14) Warrior of Namek Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 370 Rep Power: 11	Re: Bio-Broly (Completed) vs. Bojack (Transformed) I was just thinking about it again, and you're right, Bojack would easily destroy Broly. Not because Bojack's max is stronger than Broly's max, but because from what I recall, Bojack doesn't look ANYTHING like Goku, meaning Broly at best would be at SSJ1 during their fight.

02-29-2008	#27 (permalink)
~~Dark Skywalker~~ Banned Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: New York Chillin Like A villain Posts: 1,504 Rep Power: 0	Re: Bio-Broly (Completed) vs. Bojack (Transformed) Bojack......................no question about it

02-29-2008	#29 (permalink)
Super Ultimate Gohan (21) Majin Warrior Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 1,638 Rep Power: 5	Re: Bio-Broly (Completed) vs. Bojack (Transformed) I doubt that, especially if he was completed he would be more powerful than before...So he would still go LSS, but would be at Max Perfect Cell at best, so in my opinion now it would come down to who makes the first mistake. __________________ *"Yes it has been too long, now I am back and better than ever!"*