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Old 02-20-2008   #1 (permalink)
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Default SSj Broly(movie 10) vs Complete Cell[powered up]

As a reminder, I am speaking of SSj Broly not LSSj Broly. So who would prevail Complete Cell or Ssj Broly?

Ssj Broly is undeniably stronger than Mssj Gohan(buu saga) so is Cell thus planting SSj Broly on the Caliber of Perfect Cell's power.
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Default Re: SSj Broly(movie 10) vs Complete Cell[powered up]

Correct me when I'm wrong

Burori (Legendary Super Saiya-jin, Movie 8) equal to Burori (Super Saiya-jin, Movie 10)

Burori (Super Saiya-jin, Movie 10) more or less equal to Base Son Gohan

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Default Re: SSj Broly(movie 10) vs Complete Cell[powered up]

I think all you said was precise excluding the part you said SSj Broly is more or less equal to base gohan. I think Broly is exponentially much stronger than base Gohan.
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Default Re: SSj Broly(movie 10) vs Complete Cell[powered up]

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As a reminder, I am speaking of SSj Broly not LSSj Broly. So who would prevail Complete Cell or Ssj Broly?

Ssj Broly is undeniably stronger than Mssj Gohan(buu saga) so is Cell thus planting SSj Broly on the Caliber of Perfect Cell's power.
Correct.

I think SSJ Broly is also abit stronger than MSSJ Gohan (Cell Saga) but would lose if its Cell's full power plus hes more skilled. If its the power that Cell used on MSSJ Goku in their fight, then Broly would win.
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I think Cell would win; since I believe SSJ Broly could be on equal terms with a MSSJ, if not, slightly weaker. Cell is much better then a MSSJ; so, there you have it.
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I think Cell would win; since I believe SSJ Broly could be on equal terms with a MSSJ, if not, slightly weaker. Cell is much better then a MSSJ; so, there you have it.
Well, in that state Cell's at the power of a MSSj. Goku was a bit weaker than him, but Gohan was a bit stronger than Cell. So really, it's all conjecture when you try to fit Broly in the equation. I myself feel Broly would be around his power. Not quite sure about the winner though...
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I think all you said was precise excluding the part you said SSj Broly is more or less equal to base gohan. I think Broly is exponentially much stronger than base Gohan.
I just rewatched the fight. They dodged a few hits (Burori's got his serious face on). SSj Burori lands a punch. Bideru lands a kick. Burori launches the Ki blast. Gohan knocks it away. Gohan makes the Ki shield and as it explodes. Everyone is knocked out bar Gohan and Burori. They go all out.

Yeah SSj Burori isn't that far ahead of Base Gohan.
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Okay, there comes a point where movie logic like that cannot be accepted. The manga disproves this even being possible because of the SSj multiplier. Broly's a pretty powerful Super Saiyan, so the difference counts that much more. It's impossible. Therefore, it's obvious Broly was holding back a lot of effort.
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Well, in that state Cell's at the power of a MSSj. Goku was a bit weaker than him, but Gohan was a bit stronger than Cell. So really, it's all conjecture when you try to fit Broly in the equation. I myself feel Broly would be around his power. Not quite sure about the winner though...
Now, Cell's an idiot; but I kinda think he would've been more shocked if Gohan was stronger then him. After Gohan powered-up in MSSJ, Cell talked about Goku not lying about Gohan being more powerful then himself; but, he quickly makes it clear that Gohan is still nothing to him.

I know Cell has trouble hitting him, and Gohan kicked the shit out of him. But; I think powered-up Cell was still more powerful then any MSSJ at that point. Gohan just had a better chance against him then Goku would've had, in my opinion.
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MM, I disagree. Goku wasn't lying when he said Gohan was stronger than him, and Gohan affirmed that he was stronger than Cell by stating he thought Goku and Cell were going easy on each other, even in the most intense moments of their battle.. He had no trouble keeping up on the details with their fight. And to top it off, Cell deemed what Goku said fair in the light of truth. As for the fight. Gohan stated himself that he wasn't trying to attack at all, and even while running away, he still manages to outclass Complete Cell [powered-up] in speed, forcing Cell to use his real speed. When Gohan does kick Cell for the only time, he sends him falling to the ground oozing blood from his mouth. So yeah, these things make me think this. :D
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But, when you really look at it; Cell wasn't really fighting Goku all-out, or anything even close to that. Goku was fighting with his all, which makes it quite clear Gohan is more powerful then him. Now; while you're right that Gohan was doing more defending and less fighting; once Cell uses his real speed, Gohan can't do shit to him. All of Gohan's attacks, other then his kick, seem to be repelled with ease. Cell wasn't even takin Gohan seriously.
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Burori (Legendary Super Saiya-jin, Movie 8) equal to Burori (Super Saiya-jin, Movie 10)

Burori (Super Saiya-jin, Movie 10) more or less equal to Base Son Gohan

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I supposed yes. That's what the movie tells us.

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Ssj Broly is undeniably stronger than Mssj Gohan(buu saga) so is Cell thus planting SSj Broly on the Caliber of Perfect Cell's power.
No! Base Gohan was just a bit weaker than SSj Broly. MSSj Gohan would outclass SSj Broly.

In my view, I also think Perfect Cell full power is higher than MSSj Gohan in the Cell games. I don't think any MSSj at that time would capable of defeating Cell.
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But, when you really look at it; Cell wasn't really fighting Goku all-out, or anything even close to that. Goku was fighting with his all, which makes it quite clear Gohan is more powerful then him. Now; while you're right that Gohan was doing more defending and less fighting; once Cell uses his real speed, Gohan can't do shit to him. All of Gohan's attacks, other then his kick, seem to be repelled with ease. Cell wasn't even takin Gohan seriously.
The real speed Cell used at that particular point in time was the speed of his full powered state, not the true speed of his powered-up state, he was already using that to try an catch him. After Gohan powers up, Cell says, "Perhaps what Son Goku said...wasn't just a bluff after all! [that's acknowledgement of Gohan's superiority] But still...it's a joke to say that he can defeat me! [Even though Cell acknowledges Gohan's superior power, he's not going to back down an cower, obviously. And, notice he says "defeat", not "stronger". So there's no way Cell was denying Goku's statement] I'll kill him before he can land a blow!! [now here, you can also see there's no denial to Gohan's superiority, he acknowledges that, but here he's simply saying that with his superior combat skills he will end the fight quickly. Cause remember, Cell thinks very little of Gohan] Weep, Son Goku!! Weep when your son dies because of your arrogance!!" [arrogance literally means "offensive display of superiority"]

MSSj Gohan [Cell Era] is stronger than Complete Cell [powered-up].
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Nice analysis on the battle; I've never looked at it that way. I guess MSSJ Gohan is better then Cell at that point.
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Default Re: SSj Broly(movie 10) vs Complete Cell[powered up]

How in heavens name is Gohan is stronger than Cell?
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