SRP76

It doesn't matter what anybody did in movie 8. They were all weaker back then. It proves nothing.

And even if Broly was holding back power, it isn't as much (anywhere NEAR) as base Gohan (Movie 10) to Super Saiyan Gohan (Cell Games). What do you think Cell would do to base Gohan? He'd kill him with a dirty look, that's what.

Broly is nowhere near Cell's power, even in his "Legendary" state. His watered-down Super Saiyan form certainly stands no chance at all. That form MIGHT be as strong as Stage Two Cell, if that.

Evil Vegeta

If Broly beat the shit out of SSJ2 Teen Gohan, he would have to be more powerful then Cell at his maximum. I think Super Perfect Cell would still win, but that's about it.

__________________

Senzu_Bean

Is stated that SSj Broly (Movie 10) is as strong as LSSj Broly (Movie 10). So by that you say that his LSSj form in Movie 8 is only strong as Cell 2nd form, is just absurd.

Broly

Actually, SSj Vegeta[movie 8]'s kick proves to us the superiority of Broly's SSj state in comparison to a base Saiyan, like Gohan.

We are not talking about Cell, unless it relates to Movie 10, we are talking about Broly's power. But really, we've never seen SSj Broly totally unleash on anybody of equal status, so we don't know his level of power for sure. However, I can tell you, SSj Broly's [movie 8] power surpasses Semi-Complete Cell without a doubt. As I said, SSj Vegeta [Post-RoSaT], who, at that time was on par with 2nd Form Cell, landed a kick on Broly but dealt no signs of damage. And Broly wasn't even paying attention to him. So, we know SSj Broly [Movie 8] is probably up there with Complete Cell [suppressed], perhaps much more, since no damage was dealt to him in that situation, we have nothing stopping us from presuming that. And from Movie 10, we have Gohan's quote from the Jap Version stating SSj Broly [Movie 10] is just as powerful as LSSj Broly [Movie 8]...

__________________


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6wS5xOZ7Rq8
Silence is golden, ducktape is silver, a bullet is bronze.

Zer0

__________________

SRP76

Why do you insist on trying to say everyone was at Cell Games power levels during Movie 8? They weren't.

And all Gohan "stated" was that Broly was as much a monster as before. Meaning, just as challenging to him. Not that he has the same power level. Unless you think that base Gohan in Movie 10 has the exact same power level as Super Saiyan Gohan in Movie 8. And if you think everyone in Movie 8 has "post-RoSat" power levels, that becomes hilarious.

Senzu_Bean

I seriously don't get this guys.

Can you please tell us that why it doesn't proves nothing. Vegeta went all out and gave him a kick in the neck. How can you compare a sentence to an action?

Why it becomes hilarious? Just because Broly's power would be bigger? Why is so hard to see that Broly was holding back against base Gohan?

Zer0

__________________

SRP76

Think about that. Base Gohan (Movie 10) = Super Saiyan Gohan (Cell Games).

You honestly don't know what's wrong with that?

Evil Vegeta

Broly wasn't fighting base Gohan seriously. If anything, Gohan was getting mad because he couldn't hit him. Broly would've easily thrashed him if he was serious.

__________________

Mystic_Gohan

Broly vs. Perfect Cell, eh...

Broly comes charging forward, Cell uses Destructo disc, Broly gets cut in half... it's over.

SRP76

That's another thing I noticed:

Whenever any other fighter goes up against anybody, it's "oh, he must not be very strong". Like, for instance, Janemba. "Oh, he struggled a little with Goku".

But whenever it's Broly, he's just got to be "holding back".

Why is it that ONLY Broly knows how to control his power level?

Evil Vegeta

Do you seriously think Broly was fighting base Gohan without holding back? Like I said; Gohan was the one getting mad because he couldn't hit him, while Broly dodged his attacks like they were nothing. Once Gohan uses SSJ2, Broly transforms, then he fights him a bit more seriously, but not all that much.

__________________

SRP76

Gohan didn't use any Super Saiyan 2. Once Gohan turned Super Saiyan, Broly transformed to his ultimate form, because he knew he couldn't handle Gohan in just his Super Saiyan form.

Which mean "Super Saiyan" Broly is weaker than Super Saiyan Gohan (Movie 10/Buu saga), which is weaker than Super Saiyan Gohan (Cell Games), which is weaker than Cell.

Evil Vegeta

Uh, yes he did. Why would Gohan state that "he powered-up considerably" since the last battle, then? More then likely, he was talkin about his SSJ2 power, which would explain the point of him saying such. Not to mention, this is during the time where he's gotten much weaker.

__________________