LSS Broly versus Cooler(Final Form),SA13,and Bojack(Full Power). - Page 3

**Vizard** · 01-31-2008

You're totally wrong. Let me explain:

Gohan SS2>>> Perfect Cell
Gohan SS2 (injured and broken arm)>Super Perfect Cell

Adult (weaker) Gohan SS1 and Goten SS1>>> Broly LSSJ

A weakened Gohan SS1 and Kid Goten SS1 are not equal to Gohan SS2 (full power)

Therefore, Gohan SS2 (full power)>>Gohan SS2 (weakened)>Super Perfect Cell>>>Perfect Cell>/=Adult Gohan SS1 + Goten SS1>>> Broly LSSJ

**Zer0** · 01-31-2008

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Originally Posted by Ultimate_Gohan

Gohan SS2 (injured and broken arm)>Super Perfect Cell

No. Just no. What your telling me is that Gohan was disabled by an attack less than half his strength?

**Vizard** · 01-31-2008

I mean in the end he owned Cell with the last Kamehameha. I think Gohan states somewhere that his power has been cut in half since his arm was broken. Anyway if so then I'll Put SPC stronger than him but still that doesn't mean Broly>SPC.

Broly's#1fan · 01-31-2008

Gohan was SS2, Goku was SS2, and Goten was SS1. So it took all of their powers combined with the center of the Sun to kill Broly, so your saying that SS2 Kid Gohan is stronger than his teen SS2 form, Goku SS2, Goten SS1, and the center of the Sun? Anything less then that wouldn't kill Broly. Broly(LSS)>Kid Gohan(SS2)>Cell(Super Perfect)>Bojack(Full Power), so Broly>Bojack.

**Vizard** · 01-31-2008

Gohan wasn't SS2. What makes you think he was? He didn't have those electricity and in the end it's just a movie, filled with plot holes. Second, Goku wasn't even there for real! There's no way the Dragon Balls would make a wish themself to bring Goku there so it's much like when Goku was giving spiritual support to Gohan against Cell.

Third, yes Kid Gohan SS2 is stronger than Adult Gohan SS2 (even though he was SS1)
That is because Adult Gohan never, ever trained in 7 years. His power decreased a lot and you can clearly see that in the Buu saga (prior to potential unlocking by Elder Kai)

Broly's#1fan · 01-31-2008

Toei in the Buu saga and movie ten onwards always FORGETS the electricity so your post means nothing, and Goku WAS there because you hear Gohan and Goten wish in thier heads for thier father to be thier and the dragonballs start glowing and the sky darkens and Goku appears, then at the end of the movie you see the dragonballs scatter out across the earth and that ONLY happens when you make a wish.

**Vizard** · 01-31-2008

Really? To be honest your post means nothing because you're basing it on your opinion.

See, FORGETS means nothing, It's just your opinion.

Broly's#1fan · 01-31-2008

Proof that Toei DOES forget the lightning is when Goku is SS3 fighting Kid Buu and in movies 12 and 13 and we all know that SS2 onwards has lightning so I prove you wrong with evidence so it's NOT baised.

Deep Thought · 01-31-2008

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Originally Posted by Ultimate_Gohan

Really? To be honest your post means nothing because you're basing it on your opinion.

See, FORGETS means nothing, It's just your opinion.

I agree with Ultimate_Gohan, as you have nothing to back up your evidence. Besides, Toei doesn't ALWAYS forget the lighting.

Broly's#1fan · 01-31-2008

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Originally Posted by Deep thought

I agree with Ultimate_Gohan, as you have nothing to back up your evidence. Besides, Toei doesn't ALWAYS forget the lighting.

Really, why don't you re-read what I last posted I DID provide evidence.

**Vizard** · 01-31-2008

First, when it comes to accuracy, Manga>Anime. Therefore making your opinion about Kid Buu useless.

What do you mean by movies 12, 13? Who exactly are you talking about? Goku SS3? If so then yes, sometimes they forget the lightnings but still Gohan was not SS2 when fighting Goku. Maybe TOEI forgets lighting for some sequences but not always.

Broly's#1fan · 01-31-2008

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Originally Posted by Ultimate_Gohan

First, when it comes to accuracy, Manga>Anime. Therefore making your opinion about Kid Buu useless.

What do you mean by movies 12, 13? Who exactly are you talking about? Goku SS3? If so then yes, sometimes they forget the lightnings but still Gohan was not SS2 when fighting Goku. Maybe TOEI forgets lighting for some sequences but not always.

When did Gohan fight goku? Do you mean Broly? So you have proof that the mangs portrays Gohan(SS2) with lightning (like THEY don't make mistakes too). Plus I was unaware that they had manga of DBZ Movie 10 (which they don't since the movie is non-canon) so this makes YOUR opinion useless.

**Vizard** · 01-31-2008

I'm not saying movies have mangas and I never meant that.
Sorry, that was a typo. I meant Broly not Goku.

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(like THEY don't make mistakes too)

This is another opinion-based reply.

Akira Toriyama can't make mistakes for like 30 pages. He concentrated much on the details of drawing, especially on Gohan.

Evil Vegeta · 01-31-2008

Gohan was a SSJ2 when he fought against Broly. This was during the seven years where Gohan got weaker, right? If so; why would Gohan say he has a "considerable power-up" since the last battle, when he fought Broly as a regular SSJ? We all know SSJ2 is far more powerful then MSSJ. So, Gohan definitely was a SSJ2 when he fought Broly.

**Vizard** · 01-31-2008

So therefore Broly LSSJ> Super Perfect Cell? There's no way.

Gohan had no electricity so he wasn't SS1. We're getting in the good ol' debate here (Gohan vs Dabura, ss1 or ss2?) so this thread isn't taking us anywhere.

01-31-2008	#31 (permalink)
Vizard /gc/ addict Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 4,194 Blog Entries: 6 Rep Power: 211	Re: LSS Broly versus Cooler(Final Form),SA13,and Bojack(Full Power). You're totally wrong. Let me explain: Gohan SS2>>> Perfect Cell Gohan SS2 (injured and broken arm)>Super Perfect Cell Adult (weaker) Gohan SS1 and Goten SS1>>> Broly LSSJ A weakened Gohan SS1 and Kid Goten SS1 are not equal to Gohan SS2 (full power) Therefore, Gohan SS2 (full power)>>Gohan SS2 (weakened)>Super Perfect Cell>>>Perfect Cell>/=Adult Gohan SS1 + Goten SS1>>> Broly LSSJ __________________ "Success is nothing more than taking advantage of an opportunity."

01-31-2008	#33 (permalink)
Vizard /gc/ addict Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 4,194 Blog Entries: 6 Rep Power: 211	Re: LSS Broly versus Cooler(Final Form),SA13,and Bojack(Full Power). I mean in the end he owned Cell with the last Kamehameha. I think Gohan states somewhere that his power has been cut in half since his arm was broken. Anyway if so then I'll Put SPC stronger than him but still that doesn't mean Broly>SPC. __________________ "Success is nothing more than taking advantage of an opportunity."

01-31-2008	#34 (permalink)
Broly's#1fan (14) Warrior of Namek Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Canada Posts: 364 Rep Power: 0	Re: LSS Broly versus Cooler(Final Form),SA13,and Bojack(Full Power). Gohan was SS2, Goku was SS2, and Goten was SS1. So it took all of their powers combined with the center of the Sun to kill Broly, so your saying that SS2 Kid Gohan is stronger than his teen SS2 form, Goku SS2, Goten SS1, and the center of the Sun? Anything less then that wouldn't kill Broly. Broly(LSS)>Kid Gohan(SS2)>Cell(Super Perfect)>Bojack(Full Power), so Broly>Bojack.

01-31-2008	#35 (permalink)
Vizard /gc/ addict Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 4,194 Blog Entries: 6 Rep Power: 211	Re: LSS Broly versus Cooler(Final Form),SA13,and Bojack(Full Power). Gohan wasn't SS2. What makes you think he was? He didn't have those electricity and in the end it's just a movie, filled with plot holes. Second, Goku wasn't even there for real! There's no way the Dragon Balls would make a wish themself to bring Goku there so it's much like when Goku was giving spiritual support to Gohan against Cell. Third, yes Kid Gohan SS2 is stronger than Adult Gohan SS2 (even though he was SS1) That is because Adult Gohan never, ever trained in 7 years. His power decreased a lot and you can clearly see that in the Buu saga (prior to potential unlocking by Elder Kai) __________________ "Success is nothing more than taking advantage of an opportunity."

01-31-2008	#36 (permalink)
Broly's#1fan (14) Warrior of Namek Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Canada Posts: 364 Rep Power: 0	Re: LSS Broly versus Cooler(Final Form),SA13,and Bojack(Full Power). Toei in the Buu saga and movie ten onwards always FORGETS the electricity so your post means nothing, and Goku WAS there because you hear Gohan and Goten wish in thier heads for thier father to be thier and the dragonballs start glowing and the sky darkens and Goku appears, then at the end of the movie you see the dragonballs scatter out across the earth and that ONLY happens when you make a wish.

01-31-2008	#37 (permalink)
Vizard /gc/ addict Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 4,194 Blog Entries: 6 Rep Power: 211	Re: LSS Broly versus Cooler(Final Form),SA13,and Bojack(Full Power). Really? To be honest your post means nothing because you're basing it on your opinion. See, FORGETS means nothing, It's just your opinion. __________________ "Success is nothing more than taking advantage of an opportunity."

01-31-2008	#38 (permalink)
Broly's#1fan (14) Warrior of Namek Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Canada Posts: 364 Rep Power: 0	Re: LSS Broly versus Cooler(Final Form),SA13,and Bojack(Full Power). Proof that Toei DOES forget the lightning is when Goku is SS3 fighting Kid Buu and in movies 12 and 13 and we all know that SS2 onwards has lightning so I prove you wrong with evidence so it's NOT baised.

01-31-2008	#41 (permalink)
Vizard /gc/ addict Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 4,194 Blog Entries: 6 Rep Power: 211	Re: LSS Broly versus Cooler(Final Form),SA13,and Bojack(Full Power). First, when it comes to accuracy, Manga>Anime. Therefore making your opinion about Kid Buu useless. What do you mean by movies 12, 13? Who exactly are you talking about? Goku SS3? If so then yes, sometimes they forget the lightnings but still Gohan was not SS2 when fighting Goku. Maybe TOEI forgets lighting for some sequences but not always. __________________ "Success is nothing more than taking advantage of an opportunity."

01-31-2008	#45 (permalink)
Vizard /gc/ addict Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 4,194 Blog Entries: 6 Rep Power: 211	Re: LSS Broly versus Cooler(Final Form),SA13,and Bojack(Full Power). So therefore Broly LSSJ> Super Perfect Cell? There's no way. Gohan had no electricity so he wasn't SS1. We're getting in the good ol' debate here (Gohan vs Dabura, ss1 or ss2?) so this thread isn't taking us anywhere. __________________ "Success is nothing more than taking advantage of an opportunity."