Future Gohan (Normal SSj) vs. Coola (Both Organic Forms)

gojirajin · 12-02-2007

Who do you all think would win in a fight between Future Gohan in his normal state and ssj and Coola with either of his two organic forms?
Person ally i vote Future Gohan Because of SSJ and took on the androids single handedly even though he died.
This is assuming that they did meet at any time in the future.

king omega · 12-02-2007

The Andriods are much stronger then Cooler since they killed two super sayians where as Cooler lost to won.

Gohan does not even need to go SSJ to win this won.

**Zer0** · 12-02-2007

Gohan was weaker than his father was.

Gokuu recieved a zenkai in Movie 5.

Kura wins.

king omega · 12-02-2007

I know Gohan was weaker then Goku but in his final fight Gohan may have not won but he put up a good fight agianst two androids abd was not crushed like Vegeta so Gohan would win.

**Zer0** · 12-02-2007

We never saw Bejita fight. We don't even know if he was a Super Saiya-jin. Gohan was around less than half of Seventeen's power...

king omega · 12-02-2007

Well we may not see him fight but we see him die as a SSJ.

IDK how strong he was though I would still say Gohan would win or atleast put up a good fight.

warcrack · 12-02-2007

Gohan in the movie would definately win, because he was on equal footing with the Mirai androids.

In the manga he would lose, because he was weaker than Goku on Namek, and in Movie 5 Goku had recieved a zenkai.

Fred · 12-02-2007

If he were on equal footing, he wouldn't have died. But Cooler would still lose. The androids were a lot stronger than Frieza, and Future Trunks is proof of that. Cooler is, or I at least believe to be, 1.6x stronger than Frieza. But either way Androids>>>>>Mirai Trunks>>Frieza+Cold-Daimo. However, the hole in that logic is that three years past since Gohan died when Trunks traveled backward in time(sorry for confusing language) and Gohan might have been weaker than cooler. But I think that the six years it took Gohan to grow up would have definitely made him stronger than Cooler. I'd say Gohan.

warcrack · 12-02-2007

In the manga, Gohan still doubted that he was as strong as Goku on Namek. In movie 5, that same Goku from Namek recieved a zenkai, making him stronger than before. Therefore we can reason that Cooler's final form is stronger than Goku on Namek:

ssj Goku (movie 5)>>>Cooler (final form)>>>ssj Goku (Namek)>ssj Mirai Gohan (manga)

feon2 · 12-02-2007

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Gohan was weaker than his father was.

Gokuu recieved a zenkai in Movie 5.

Kura wins.

I agree.

I think Coola would win, too.

SRP76 · 12-02-2007

Cooler can't handle a Super Saiyan. Gohan would beat him down.

**Zer0** · 12-02-2007

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Originally Posted by SRP76

Cooler can't handle a Super Saiyan. Gohan would beat him down.

No. Just no.

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Originally Posted by Zer0

Why does everyone keep saying Kura is no where near Super Saiya-jin power? Kura stated Furiza had the edge. That does not necessarily mean Furiza was stronger I interpret it that Kura was still stronger but Furiza was "persistent". Whatever small edge/difference there was it went away with his "new form". So Kura and Furiza are very close in power when in 100% Power.

So
Furiza (100% Power): 146,000,000
Kura (100% Power): 140,000,000 or 150,000,000

Add in another transformation (1.2x increase) and Kura is definetly near (Above) Super Saiya-jin power.

Add to that SSj Gohan is WEAKER than SSj Gokuu on Namek.

**LegendarySSJ7** · 12-02-2007

Canon wise? Coola, in his organic "ultimate transformation". Gohan states with a confident gaze that he always hoped to be as strong as his father when his gi goes to the notice of Trunks. I feel this not only alludes to the power Goku wielded before his death in that timeline, but the general wall of power Goku achieved in the duration of his life at large. That #17 was only using less than half of his power also compounds this... I can forsee Coola in his final transformation as the stronger of the two by a stretch. SS Goku only handled the aforesaid Coola so easily because of the massive auto-evolution received after the Senzu, after coming close to death earlier on (as he took a potshot fired off by Coola in his relaxed state, obviously).

Non-canon wise? Well... it's hard to definitively say. I feel when Mirai #18 and #17 weren't holding back, they were much stronger than even the SSj Gohan we see in the non-canon movie (both before and after the amputee), as Gohan lost his arm and was knocked unconscious from the first encounter, and eventually died in the second (as boded in the first). The Cyborg's expressions didn't denote effort of any sort, it's just that when they weren't trying, Gohan could equal them off. It's rather surefire. You can't guage the amount of discrepancy between the three in the first fight. But I suppose that depends on how you guage that in relation to Coola's ultimate organic transformation... I still would have to say SSj Mirai Gohan would be a long stride away in power. In my view.

Fred · 12-02-2007

What I don't see is how 13 years can go by since Goku's return from Namek, and how the notion exists that Gohan could be SSj for about 11 years(by estimate, Trunks was born the year AHs #17 and #18 came to be, Goku died before this, and I'd assume his friends were killed sometime in the first 2 years as well as many other humans) and still be weaker than the 150k PL Goku possessed on Namek. If Zer0 thinks that Cooler is stronger than Frieza 100% by 1.2x, then Cooler's power level would still be weaker than SSj Goku's at 144,000(assuming form 4 produces the same result). Mirai Gohan should have been able to take Cooler even with lack of limb.

king omega · 12-02-2007

ya, I agree with Jonny the andriods are several times strong then Cooler, and Gohan would of been a SSJ for much longer then Goku was during the Trunks saga, and he has 11 or so years of training.

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gojirajin (7) Warrior of Earth Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 69 Rep Power: 2	Future Gohan (Normal SSj) vs. Coola (Both Organic Forms) Who do you all think would win in a fight between Future Gohan in his normal state and ssj and Coola with either of his two organic forms? Person ally i vote Future Gohan Because of SSJ and took on the androids single handedly even though he died. This is assuming that they did meet at any time in the future.

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king omega Naruto Ranked (21) Sannin Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Hell, exploring the layers. Posts: 1,639 Rep Power: 8	Re: FUTURE GOHAN(normal-ssj) vs COOLA(both organic forms) The Andriods are much stronger then Cooler since they killed two super sayians where as Cooler lost to won. Gohan does not even need to go SSJ to win this won. __________________ Yesterday seems as though it never existed Death greets me warm, now I will just say good-bye MetallicA Fade to Black

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Zer0 Super Moderator Join Date: May 2006 Location: Hn, None of your business Posts: 10,113 Blog Entries: 4 Rep Power: 135	Re: FUTURE GOHAN(normal-ssj) vs COOLA(both organic forms) Gohan was weaker than his father was. Gokuu recieved a zenkai in Movie 5. Kura wins. __________________ Want a colored username? Then check out the Weekly Naruto & Bleach Caption Contests.

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king omega Naruto Ranked (21) Sannin Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Hell, exploring the layers. Posts: 1,639 Rep Power: 8	Re: FUTURE GOHAN(normal-ssj) vs COOLA(both organic forms) I know Gohan was weaker then Goku but in his final fight Gohan may have not won but he put up a good fight agianst two androids abd was not crushed like Vegeta so Gohan would win. __________________ Yesterday seems as though it never existed Death greets me warm, now I will just say good-bye MetallicA Fade to Black

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Zer0 Super Moderator Join Date: May 2006 Location: Hn, None of your business Posts: 10,113 Blog Entries: 4 Rep Power: 135	Re: FUTURE GOHAN(normal-ssj) vs COOLA(both organic forms) We never saw Bejita fight. We don't even know if he was a Super Saiya-jin. Gohan was around less than half of Seventeen's power... __________________ Want a colored username? Then check out the Weekly Naruto & Bleach Caption Contests.

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king omega Naruto Ranked (21) Sannin Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Hell, exploring the layers. Posts: 1,639 Rep Power: 8	Re: FUTURE GOHAN(normal-ssj) vs COOLA(both organic forms) Well we may not see him fight but we see him die as a SSJ. IDK how strong he was though I would still say Gohan would win or atleast put up a good fight. __________________ Yesterday seems as though it never existed Death greets me warm, now I will just say good-bye MetallicA Fade to Black

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warcrack (20) Super Saiyan 2 Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: NJ Posts: 1,309 Rep Power: 10	Re: FUTURE GOHAN(normal-ssj) vs COOLA(both organic forms) Gohan in the movie would definately win, because he was on equal footing with the Mirai androids. In the manga he would lose, because he was weaker than Goku on Namek, and in Movie 5 Goku had recieved a zenkai. __________________

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Fred (25) Kami of Earth Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: New York Posts: 4,031 Blog Entries: 1 Rep Power: 75	Re: FUTURE GOHAN(normal-ssj) vs COOLA(both organic forms) If he were on equal footing, he wouldn't have died. But Cooler would still lose. The androids were a lot stronger than Frieza, and Future Trunks is proof of that. Cooler is, or I at least believe to be, 1.6x stronger than Frieza. But either way Androids>>>>>Mirai Trunks>>Frieza+Cold-Daimo. However, the hole in that logic is that three years past since Gohan died when Trunks traveled backward in time(sorry for confusing language) and Gohan might have been weaker than cooler. But I think that the six years it took Gohan to grow up would have definitely made him stronger than Cooler. I'd say Gohan. __________________

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warcrack (20) Super Saiyan 2 Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: NJ Posts: 1,309 Rep Power: 10	Re: FUTURE GOHAN(normal-ssj) vs COOLA(both organic forms) In the manga, Gohan still doubted that he was as strong as Goku on Namek. In movie 5, that same Goku from Namek recieved a zenkai, making him stronger than before. Therefore we can reason that Cooler's final form is stronger than Goku on Namek: ssj Goku (movie 5)>>>Cooler (final form)>>>ssj Goku (Namek)>ssj Mirai Gohan (manga) __________________

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SRP76 (23) Final Warrior Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 2,341 Blog Entries: 1 Rep Power: 37	Re: Future Gohan (Normal SSj) vs. Coola (Both Organic Forms) Cooler can't handle a Super Saiyan. Gohan would beat him down.

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LegendarySSJ7 Moderator Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: LA, CA, USA. Posts: 2,709 Rep Power: 45	Re: Future Gohan (Normal SSj) vs. Coola (Both Organic Forms) Canon wise? Coola, in his organic "ultimate transformation". Gohan states with a confident gaze that he always hoped to be as strong as his father when his gi goes to the notice of Trunks. I feel this not only alludes to the power Goku wielded before his death in that timeline, but the general wall of power Goku achieved in the duration of his life at large. That #17 was only using less than half of his power also compounds this... I can forsee Coola in his final transformation as the stronger of the two by a stretch. SS Goku only handled the aforesaid Coola so easily because of the massive auto-evolution received after the Senzu, after coming close to death earlier on (as he took a potshot fired off by Coola in his relaxed state, obviously). Non-canon wise? Well... it's hard to definitively say. I feel when Mirai #18 and #17 weren't holding back, they were much stronger than even the SSj Gohan we see in the non-canon movie (both before and after the amputee), as Gohan lost his arm and was knocked unconscious from the first encounter, and eventually died in the second (as boded in the first). The Cyborg's expressions didn't denote effort of any sort, it's just that when they weren't trying, Gohan could equal them off. It's rather surefire. You can't guage the amount of discrepancy between the three in the first fight. But I suppose that depends on how you guage that in relation to Coola's ultimate organic transformation... I still would have to say SSj Mirai Gohan would be a long stride away in power. In my view. __________________

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Fred (25) Kami of Earth Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: New York Posts: 4,031 Blog Entries: 1 Rep Power: 75	Re: Future Gohan (Normal SSj) vs. Coola (Both Organic Forms) What I don't see is how 13 years can go by since Goku's return from Namek, and how the notion exists that Gohan could be SSj for about 11 years(by estimate, Trunks was born the year AHs #17 and #18 came to be, Goku died before this, and I'd assume his friends were killed sometime in the first 2 years as well as many other humans) and still be weaker than the 150k PL Goku possessed on Namek. If Zer0 thinks that Cooler is stronger than Frieza 100% by 1.2x, then Cooler's power level would still be weaker than SSj Goku's at 144,000(assuming form 4 produces the same result). Mirai Gohan should have been able to take Cooler even with lack of limb. __________________

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king omega Naruto Ranked (21) Sannin Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Hell, exploring the layers. Posts: 1,639 Rep Power: 8	Re: Future Gohan (Normal SSj) vs. Coola (Both Organic Forms) ya, I agree with Jonny the andriods are several times strong then Cooler, and Gohan would of been a SSJ for much longer then Goku was during the Trunks saga, and he has 11 or so years of training. __________________ Yesterday seems as though it never existed Death greets me warm, now I will just say good-bye MetallicA Fade to Black