Majuub

Exactly, Rildo powered up, Goku said he didn't expect him to be THAT powerful but he still knoew Rildo could become much stronger. Goku at base was only bashing Rildo in order to force him to release his power so they could have a good fight. Rildo already knew that Goku could become stronger than his base form, he even stated that he knew Goku wasn't using nearly his maximum power. Goku didn't know Rildo could go meta, the only thing important is the fact that Goku knew Rildo needed a SSJ to get beat, not just a base. That's why he turned SSJ right when the sigma force were holding him, it's not like Rildo's power had raised or anything, he was just tired to fool around and that convinced Rildo to get down to buisness too. As I said before, why would Goku be impressed by a being he could beat at base. It was obvious Rildo was hiding something and Goku knew it, it's not like he couldn't read Rildo's power and vice versa.

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Broly

Goku turned SSj when the Sigma Force was holding him? When was this? Where was this? Even if this were true, wouldn't the Sigma Force've been obliterated by SSj Goku's power if theywere holding onto him?

I just don't see how all this ties into Goku and Trunks' statments. I think they were simply sensing his base power. Sure, Goku and Rilldo both sensed hidden powers in each other, but the fact that Goku was wrong in his judgement of power in Sigma Rilldo indicates he really wasn't sensing Meta or Sigma Rilldo's power when he made that statement while facing Rilldo [base], he was merely sensing his base.

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Majuub

I watched the whole episode once again. I can tell, they both knew each other's power. First, Goku was beating Rildo in base form easily, he was just toying. Later, the sigma force held him, Rildo talked to him while Goku couldn't move, then he turned SSJ. It only means he was plainning to go SSJ from the beginning, he was now tired to fool around it was obvious that now, things would get more interesting for both. Rildo said he knew Goku was far stronger than what he showed, when he was powering up, Goku said that was awesome and that his strength was ridiculous. Now it was something to be impressed by. As I stated earlier, why would Goku be impressed at someone he could beat at base, it's like you say Goku should be impressed by Frieza and Cell when they were in hell. Obviously Goku didn't know someone could force him to go SSJ anymore.

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Broly

Yes, they knew each others power, but the point I'm trying to make is that Goku and Trunks' statements were made on referance from Rilldo [base], not Rilldo Sigma, or Meta. Goku may have known that Rilldo was stronger than he looked, and Rilldo may have known Goku could become stronger, but I think Goku was simply stating Rilldo's current power, his absolute base. It was only after Rilldo went Sigma, that he was stated to have become stronger than before. That means Rilldo [base; time of statement] =/< Chibi Buu </= Kid Goku [base] < Sigma Rilldo < SSj Kid Goku < Meta Rilldo.

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Majuub

Goku and Trunks can read power levels. Rildo said he knew Goku was that strong when he turned SSJ. Goku was impressed by Meta Rildo not suprised, it's different. If you're suprised it means you didn't expect something to happen, if you're impressed it just means you expected something to happen, but the something was just bigger than what you actually thought. It's the same for Goku and Rildo, Goku was playing, he turned SSJ, Rildo wasn't suprised, he said he knew Goku was as strong as that, then Rildo transformed, Goku just said he had amazing power, meaning Rildo met his expectations. He wasn't like: Oh my God! I didn't know he was that strong. Fact is, Goku didn't even comment on Rildo's strength, he just said something on it when they were about to fight. Goku is not the type to judge someone just on his base power, he obviously knew Rildo's maximum or at least something close to Rildo's maximum. As I stated 1000 times, why would he be impressed by someone he could easily beat at base power? Just the way Goku was fighting at base, he was always smiling, he expected something to happen, since Rildo didn't do nothing he went SSJ. If he didn't know Rildo's maximum strength, why would he go SSJ? It would be an enormous overkill. If he knew he could have beaten a Rildo he thought he knew as strong as his base form, then he would have stayed in base, he wouldn't have turned SSJ. All that to say once again, Goku knew Rildo's maximum power or he knew Rildo was powerful enough for him to go SSJ.

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Broly

I'm not saying that any of that is wrong. I'm saying Goku's statement was in referance to Rilldo's base power.

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Majuub

All I said proves that Goku was refering to Rildo's power period. Not his base power only. If it was really his base power he was refering to, why in the world would he be impressed?

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Broly

What does him being impressed about Sigma Rilldo's power have to do with his statement concerning Rilldo [base]?

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Majuub

If Goku knew what was Rildo's full power from the beginning, why would he refer to his base power for the beginning. You never said why would Goku be impressed by a Rildo who was weaker than his base form. Since Goku knew how strong Rildo was, it's obvious that, when he refered to his power, he was taking in account his full power, not just a part of his power. From the beginning it was Rildo's full power Goku was impressed of. I'm repeating the same things over and over again and you don't seem to read what I say.

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Broly

I read it, but I simply think that "impression" was nothing more than Goku seeing another being as strong as Buu. He had not seen someone that strong for 20 years. Don't you think that would get his blood boiling...even if he was still a bit weaker?

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Majuub

You sill didn't explain why he would refer to Rildo's base when he knows his full power =/

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Broly

It doesn't matter if he knows his full power. The statment was directed to his base form.

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Majuub

Okay, so basically, when Goku was refering to how strong Fat Buu was, he was refering to his base strength right? It doesn't make sense, when you know what someone is capable of, you will be amazed by his full capacity not just a part of it. It would be idiot for Goku to only refer to his base strength when he truly knows Rildo can give a lot more. For all we know, nothing but you suggest that he was refering to Rildo's base form. The logic would be that he was talking about his full power, it just doesn't make sense the other way.

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Deep Thought

Rildo wins, anyone who can take on "T3h OBER HGAX SSJ KIDD GOKU" would need to be at Super Buu's level.

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Majuub

Please before making such comments, try at least reading what we said earlier. When Goku was talking about how strong Rildo was, he was comparing him to Chibi Buu not Shin Buu.

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