SRP76

You can't force this into the canon timeline; it does not take place there. After exiting the Time Chamber, Goku and Gohan are Super Saiyan all the time, until after Cell is defeated. All the time. Nobody "reverts" until after Cell is beaten. That would make Gohan Super Saiyan 2. He certainly was NOT Super Saiyan 2 in Movie 8. Therefore, no "post-ROSAT" for them.

The movie timeline is a separate thing entirely, just like "Future Trunks'" timeline. Totally independent. In fact, Gohan was a Super Saiyan in that timeline, too....and he did NOT train in the Time Chamber in that timeline, either.

In Movie 8, Broly wasn't nearly as powerful as he's made out to be. In fact, if the movies are "meant to reflect a certain time", and are based on certain things in the canon universe, than Broly is based on Vegeta's and Trunks' "Ascended" forms. Nothing more than that (since nothing beyond that had appeared in the manga yet, when the movie was made).

FierceGamer

Hahahahaha that's the funniest thing I've ever read and it's so true. If I had to estimate the timeline of movie 8, I would say it's right when Goku and Gohan decide that they should become "Mastered" Super Saiyans, meaning that Trunks and Vegeta have been through the RoSaT. They're all pretty strong, but not as strong as they were at the beginning of the Cell Games.

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Super_17

you know how is it every time broly is brought up? the forum goes into argument over his power. That goes to show you how much a lot of people hated broli just for the fact he took out a lot of people's favorite characters.

Now that I got that out of my system I have to say majin vegeta would win thanks to the majin seal power increase.

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SRP76

No, Broly took out nobody. Name one single person (besides Paragus) that Broly killed.

The Saibamen have more kills on their record than Broly.

Super_17

I didnt mean kill as took out. I mean the beat downs he gave in movie 8 and 10.

It seemed everybody didnt want their characters get beat down the way they did.

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Broly

And to add to that, Broly probably has more kills on his record than anybody. Maybe except for Kid Buu. Broly was destroying planets his entire life.

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Super_17

yeah. I mean with broly destroying planets was second nature

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king omega

ok dudes i dont care how many people Brolly killed.

We have SSJ2 Majin Vegeta who is much stronger then Gohan, verse Brolly who on his first appeance owned Vegeta, Brolly would of gotten stronger since then.

So would Vegeta at Super Sayian 2 plus the Majin powerup, plus ROSAT training for 2 years be enough to beat Brolly at his strongest.

Cause i would think so.

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Ultimate_Gohan

I guess vegeta because broly wouldn't have gotten stronger while staying frozen for years, so basically hes still the movie 8 broly. So vegeta ssj2 AND majin is way stronger than broly. Even gohan ssj (with not much training) beat him.

Broly

Broly recieved a Zenkai when his life threatening wound healed. [thank the ice Broly, thank the ice] He was considerably stronger in Movie 10. And MSSj Gohan didn't beat him. Gohan was actually clobbered and put down in three hits. Besides that, it was only because of the DBs that they pushed Broly into the Sun.

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Devilz

SSJ2 Majin Vegeta would win, regardless of whether Gohan was SSJ2 in Movie 10.

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Cableguy15

LSSJ Broly is probably around USSJ Trunks in power, except he can move much faster.....



Majin vegeta would slaughter him.

1.Movie 8 contained no MSSJs whatsoever..... There's tons of things that say they were normal SSJs. They would have been in SSJ form the entire time, Goku would have had much more confidence in Gohan because MSSJ gohan>MSSJ Goku (Goku told him to stay back in the movie), neither Vegeta or Trunks went ASSJ, they all took the same beating, all except Goku took an equal beating from Broly.

2.Like SRP said, this doesn't completely follow any timeline

3.In movie 10, Gohan claims that he had gotten stronger since they last met, which pretty much tells us the Broly universe does not follow the canon universe, because Gohan durring the Buu saga is weaker than at the Cell Games.

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Broly

First of all my friend, you gotta remember a few things. One, Gohan is a MSSj in Movie 10, he's close to Dabura's strength [as seen in their fight], whom is said to be on equal footing with Complete Cell [powered up]. That proves he's over double SSj Grade 3 Trunks' level because LSSj Broly annhilated MSSj Gohan.

Now, Movie 8 doesn't completely follow the timeline, but there comes a point where you see certain things change. Those changes mean that it's in a different arc then before. From those changes and by telling what arc it portrays, we can tell just about how powerful they are and all that stuff. OF course though, it's non canon and their will be mistakes in the movie because of it, but that doesn't change the facts.

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Cableguy15

Oh really? Prove it then...... If Gohan is MSSJ in movie 10, why did he state that he had gotten stronger since the last time he fought Broly then? Because if he was MSSJ in both movies, that wouldn't make any sense......

LSSJ Broly annihilated SSJ Gohan.

The facts are that:

1.Gohan and Goku were not in SSJ form in the movie, and if it truely follows the timeline you claim, they should be.

2.Neither Vegeta or Trunks went ASSJ in that movie.

3.Goku told Gohan to stay back, but if they were truely MSSJs, Goku would have full confidence in him, because MSSJ Gohan>MSSJ Goku.

4.Goku and Gohan would have been much stronger than everyone else in their group which clearly was not the case.

5.The Cell Games aren't even happening in the movie (Unless they would actually drop everything including saving the world just to see a new planet Vegeta.

Conclusion: MSSJ and ASSJs don't exist in movie 8, otherwise they would have been shown, or used. The Broly universe is completely different than anyting from the manga.

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Broly

1. Gohan didn't say he powered up considerably since then, he said "and here I'm supposed to have powered up considerably". There's your answer.

2. You don't have to sustain SSj all the time to be a MSSj if you already mastered it. This is shown in the Buu Arc. All three, Goku, Vegeta, and Gohan are MSSjs, yet they don't stay in their SSj state all day every day. This could be the case, but it could also be that's how Toei made the movie, full of plotholes.

3. Who's to say they didn't? Trunks most likely was an ASSj because of the muscle bulge increase [yes it's noticable] and because when he transformed his jacket ripped off indicating an increase in muscle growth. Vegeta is also shown to have increase in muscle.

4. Didn't you hear Gohan protest? It's not that Gohan was weaker, it's that Goku gave him a direct command.

5. Broly was so much stronger than them all that he could easily toy with them making them seem equal in strength. At that point in time, they weren't that far apart in power. From Piccolo to Goku is what I think a 6,000,000,000 difference.

6. Yes, actually the Cell Games are happening in the movie. Few things: If it wasn't, what was the point of MSSj Gohan and his hair cut, or Future Trunks long hair? OR what about the fact that Piccolo was on the Lookout when he sensed Broly's power. Something tells me they went up there for a reason.

7. What are you talking about, "Broly universe"? It's not a different dimension or anything. The movies are just hypothetical situations based off the anime's plotline-each movie set in chronological order as according to the story.

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