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Prove that MSSj Trunks is stronger than LSSj Broly [Movie 10].

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Broly

1st of all, you don't even know if Future Trunks did achieve MSSj or not, you're just making the assumption that he did.
I know I use this alot, but it's my key to proving Broly's power. Movie 10 LSSj Broly took out a Mastered Super Saiyan in three blows. Trunks would have to be around MSSj Goku's [Cell game] level, if he was a MSSj. Broly would give a relative beating that he gave to Gohan to Trunks. If you can zap someone's ki in three blows from their full power, then you've got immense amounts more power than them. Not only that but he still had enough power after being dipped in lava to hold off MSSj Gohan, Goten and Goku's triple Super Kamehamehas. It was only because of Trunks' wave that got in the way of Broly's waves, which aloud Goku Gohan and Goten to launch the blast back at Broly. Broly's shield was actually strong enough to keep the Triple Super Kamehameha from hitting his body, but it did have enough force to push him into the sun. [Kid Trunks has nothing to do with Future Trunks I'm just using him to prove how strong Broly is]

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JerrodDRagon

^First no one had Mastered Super Sayin. The only 2 who ever do that is Goku and Gohan and since Goku and Gohan were not super syain the whole Movie we can saflty say they are not masters of Super Syain.
Like LegendarySSj7 would say the movie time line is different than the real DBZ time line and that the Brolly Movie happens around the time (in the real DBZ timeline) that Gohan and Goku were in the time chamber and Gohan was Super Syain but still had not mastered it.

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Broly

I'm talking about movie 10 not movie 8.

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JerrodDRagon

Ok so Kid trunks, kid Gotens and SSj Gohan (who Vegeta said was weaker than when he was a kid) This means it was 3 Weak SSj vs Brolly and he still lost. Brolly like Gohan was also weaker in Movie 8 because he was frozen for 7 years.
Another reason we can say Trunks is stronger than Brolly is Gotens and Trunks are about as strong as the androids in Trunks time (in the saga when they fight brolly they are still weaker than that worlds android 18)
So since Trunk killed both androids with no problem and Cell (who was much stronger than the androids) Trunks is better than brolly in
1) Using Chi/energ attacks
2) He's a better fighter and was taught by Gohan
3) Trunks has trained, and even trained 2 days in the room of time and space while Brolly just gets made.
4) Trunks is MUCH faster than Brolly this is shown when he kills the androids with out them having time to react.

So in every way is Trunks (after beating the androids and Cell) is better than brolly

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[quote user="Broly: God of Death"]Prove that MSSj Trunks is stronger than LSSj Broly [Movie 10].[/quote]
I have just looked back to when MSS Kakarrot powerd up to fight Complete Cell and to where Future Trunks killed the Cell in his own timeline and I don't see any difference in their aura's their the same Trunks aura is that of a MSS. That right there is enough proof that Trunks is a MSS. Also if I remember right in movie 10 Gohan had lost so much power as a MSS and that crap about Kakarrot coming down, that made it look like Kakarrot hadn't progressed infact going by the movie MSS Kakarrot was weaker b/c theres no way Kakarrot Broli could have progressed that much with him being in the state he was in before he started fighting again.

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ixidor

I have already said that aura is not a good arg at all when we are talking about anime...
Anyway, i don't know if trunks was a mssj. Ok, maybe he was half way to turning it but i doubt he was a true mssj, i mean, if he was not a mssj in the cell games how can he be a mssj in the next day against A17 or A18? And that was the same form that he used against imperfect cell, more power or less power...

Super Ultimate Gohan

[quote user="ixidor"] I have already said that aura is not a good arg at all when we are talking about anime...
Anyway, i don't know if trunks was a mssj. Ok, maybe he was half way to turning it but i doubt he was a true mssj, i mean, if he was not a mssj in the cell games how can he be a mssj in the next day against A17 or A18? And that was the same form that he used against imperfect cell, more power or less power...
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I already stated this before go back and look where Trunks killed the Cyborgs then look when Trunks killed Imperfect Cell, several months or greater then a year had passed between the time where Trunks killed the Cyborgs and when Trunks killed Cell. That was plenty of time to become a MSS. That is the key word here Time, and with that amount of time passing it was only natural that Trunks would become a MSS.

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ixidor

Why? The saga was ending, toryama wouldn't write more DBZ, and by this time there was only 2 mssj. Trunks wouldn't have other foes to fight and trunks himself said that cell's perfect form would be too much for him, i don't see why would he become mssj in that time. And we see no difference from before, really...

Broly

[quote user="JerrodDRagon"] Ok so Kid trunks, kid Gotens and SSj Gohan (who Vegeta said was weaker than when he was a kid) This means it was 3 Weak SSj vs Brolly and he still lost. Brolly like Gohan was also weaker in Movie 8 because he was frozen for 7 years.
Another reason we can say Trunks is stronger than Brolly is Gotens and Trunks are about as strong as the androids in Trunks time (in the saga when they fight brolly they are still weaker than that worlds android 18)
So since Trunk killed both androids with no problem and Cell (who was much stronger than the androids) Trunks is better than brolly in
1) Using Chi/energ attacks
2) He's a better fighter and was taught by Gohan
3) Trunks has trained, and even trained 2 days in the room of time and space while Brolly just gets made.
4) Trunks is MUCH faster than Brolly this is shown when he kills the androids with out them having time to react.

So in every way is Trunks (after beating the androids and Cell) is better than brolly

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Uh, you do know that MSSj Goten and Trunks are much stronger than that, right? If MSSj Trunks was as weak as what you say he is, then he wouldn't be able to kick Majin Buu like he did. It'd be impossible for MSSj Trunks to move him with his kick if he was that weak. [And trunks kicked him like 800 feet] From this we can obviously see that Goten and trunks are not at the same level of the cyborgs in Trunks time, they are much stronger. Another reason as to why they are not that weak is the simple fact that they fought Bio-Broly. The movie 8 SSj Broly took a full force kick from a ROSAT-trained Super Saiyan Vegeta, yet it was to no affect. MSSj Goten and Trunks fought the Legendary SSj Bio-Broly and defeated it. So, i'd have to put them around Suppressed Perfect Cell.
1. What do energy attacks have to do with how much more powerful Broly is than Trunks?
2. Obviously he isn't because of the way he got his butt handed to him in Movie 8.
3. Okay, I can say that SSj3 Goku trained in Other World for seven years and that Super Buu just gets mad, but that doesn't make SSj3 Goku stronger.
4. The Cyborgs are much weaker than Trunks. And so, it is very easy for Trunks to have done what he did. It's not like Trunks was fighting an equal in that battle.

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Supreme Kai

brolly is just much stronger!!!
i cell saga gohan was a ssj2 so even if he has losed a lot of his power he would still be mssj !!
lssj brolly beat the hell out of mssj gohan in 3 puches
i dont think trunks was a mssj but even if he was brolly would beat the hell out of him to

if brolly would fase futer trunks one on one brolly would even be stronger couse there is no kakorat or sombody thats looks like him witch meen thath brolly will have more controlle over his power
i think borlly would even be as strong as a ssj2

ImmortalBroly

Broly definetly wins this one