Cell Junior versus Broly (movie 8) - Page 2

**LegendarySSJ7** · 12-04-2006

[quote user="Broly: God of Death"]Oh man, this stuff again? Well, despite the fact that Goku and Gohan
were not retaining their SSj forms before the fight, they have to be
mastered SSjs. Reasons: Gohan was a SSj, and Trunks had long hair.
These two FACTS can only lead us to the conclusion that they
are all POST-ROSAT. There cannot be a such thing as "Mid-ROSAT", as it
is simply impossible. There is only Pre and Post ROSAT. That's
all. Also, Goku did not transform into a Mastered SSj upon receiving
the last morsel of energy from vegeta. All it was, was a power-up.
That's it. I happen to believe though that Goku was already a MSSj
prior to receiving all the energy. After the Cell Games, a lot of
people are mastered SSjs, [Goku, Gohan, Vegeta, Goten, Trunks] but they
dont retain the SSj form all the time do they? No, they dont. So why
cant that be the case here, in movie 8?[/quote]And the movies are 'impossible', too, if that gives less pause. That's why they're what-if scenarios, and that's why terming the capacity of the combatants in question as 'mid-RoSaT' isn't really 'out there', lamentable, or gutsy as we see Goku project a much more fierce aura after his 'power-up', denoting that it could have been activating the power of a pseudo-MSSj state (and that with the lended Chi was more than enough to thoroughly own Broli) .

Broly · 12-04-2006

Well, not "thoroughly" actually, he didnt die. What's your comment on the end of my paragraph?
Also, "Pseudo-MSSj" is not a real form, but I get what you mean.

Sir.Nosferatu · 12-16-2006

OK
A Cell Jr. is more powerful than a FPSSJ Goku.
LSSJ Broly lost to a FPSSJ Goku.
Now let me see here.
FPSSJ Goku (Cell Games) was considerably weaker than Goku with all that energy.
So heres my chart.
Goku w/ energy > LSSJ Broly
FPSSJ Goku < Cell Jr.
Therefore...
Goku w/ energy > LSSJ Broly > Cell Jr > FPSSJ Goku

**Zer0** · 12-16-2006

[quote user="Sir.Nosferatu"] OK
A Cell Jr. is more powerful than a FPSSJ Goku.
LSSJ Broly lost to a FPSSJ Goku.
Now let me see here.
FPSSJ Goku (Cell Games) was considerably weaker than Goku with all that energy.
So heres my chart.
Goku w/ energy > LSSJ Broly
FPSSJ Goku < Cell Jr.
Therefore...
Goku w/ energy > LSSJ Broly > Cell Jr > FPSSJ Goku
[/quote]
Mastered Super Saiyan Son Goku (Cell Games Arc) is not weaker than the Cell Juniors. He was very tired from his fight with Perfect Cell and that is why he lost against the Cell Junior.
MSS Son Goku (Cell Games Full Power) >>>>> Cell Junior > ASS Vegeta > MSS Son Goku (Cell Games, not full power) >>> LSS Broly

**JAIF** · 12-16-2006

[quote user="Zer0"]
Mastered Super Saiyan Son Goku (Cell Games Arc) is not weaker than the Cell Juniors. He was very tired from his fight with Perfect Cell and that is why he lost against the Cell Junior.
MSS Son Goku (Cell Games Full Power) >>>>> Cell Junior > ASS Vegeta > MSS Son Goku (Cell Games, not full power) >>> LSS Broly
[/quote]
Wait how come MSSj Goku is so powerful? I mean he can be like 2x a Cell jr but not more.

**Zer0** · 12-16-2006

[quote user="SuperVegetto3"] [quote user="Zer0"]
Mastered Super Saiyan Son Goku (Cell Games Arc) is not weaker than the Cell Juniors. He was very tired from his fight with Perfect Cell and that is why he lost against the Cell Junior.
MSS Son Goku (Cell Games Full Power) >>>>> Cell Junior > ASS Vegeta > MSS Son Goku (Cell Games, not full power) >>> LSS Broly
[/quote]
Wait how come MSSj Goku is so powerful? I mean he can be like 2x a Cell jr but not more.
[/quote]
When I used >>>>> it wasn't to equal more than twice as strong but more like 1.5 - 2 times stronger than a Cell Junior.

Cyrax · 02-13-2008

Not only is power. The techniques and abilities are who decide the destining of the fight.
Cell jr. win.

Ryat! · 02-13-2008

Cell jr. >> MSSj Goku > LSSj Broly

Cell Jr. wins.

m.collins · 02-13-2008

Broly would win. since he is very very strong.

Madness · 02-13-2008

This is in the wrong forum for a start.

I'd go for the Cell Junior to be honest, mainly because I've been turned from liking Broly in any way possible.

Broly · 02-13-2008

Broly > MSSj Gohan [Movie 10] </= Dabura > Cell Jr.

Stated.

Broly wins.

Senzu_Bean · 02-13-2008

This is Broly from Movie 8, which is substantially weaker than a MSSj (considering Goku wasn't a MSSj in the movie). But seeing how Trunks and Vegeta held against Cell Jr. (considering they weren't hold back) and how they were beat by Broly, I say Broly.

Broly's#1fan · 02-13-2008

It took all of FPSS Goku power with all of the energy from FPSS Gohan, USS3 Vegeta, USS3 Trunks, Piccolo[fused with Kami with training.] all released in one punch re-opening a scar and colliding with an enormous comet to stop Go...I mean Broly's rampage. All of this still couldn't kill him! With this proof, LSS Broly would obliterate the Celljr.'s even better and more efficiently than SS2 Gohan. LSS>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Celljr's. What a pointless thread.

blueman255 · 02-13-2008

Quote:

Originally Posted by Broly's#1fan

It took all of FPSS Goku power with all of the energy from FPSS Gohan, USS3 Vegeta, USS3 Trunks, Piccolo[fused with Kami with training.] all released in one punch re-opening a scar and colliding with an enormous comet to stop Go...I mean Broly's rampage. All of this still couldn't kill him! With this proof, LSS Broly would obliterate the Celljr.'s even better and more efficiently than SS2 Gohan. LSS>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Celljr's. What a pointless thread.

I strongly agree that Broly would emerge victorious against a Cell jr, however, The Saiyans in movie 8 were not at there strongest peak which means they are marginally weaker than their Cell arc selves.

Jay · 02-13-2008

Quote:

Originally Posted by Broly's#1fan

It took all of FPSS Goku power with all of the energy from FPSS Gohan, USS3 Vegeta, USS3 Trunks, Piccolo[fused with Kami with training.] all released in one punch re-opening a scar and colliding with an enormous comet to stop Go...I mean Broly's rampage. All of this still couldn't kill him! With this proof, LSS Broly would obliterate the Celljr.'s even better and more efficiently than SS2 Gohan. LSS>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Celljr's. What a pointless thread.

Ussj3 Vegeta never existed for a start.

And all Z fighters were in base form.

12-04-2006	#16 (permalink)
LegendarySSJ7 Moderator Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: LA, CA, USA. Posts: 2,709 Rep Power: 45	Re: Cell Junior versus Broly (movie 8) [quote user="Broly: God of Death"]Oh man, this stuff again? Well, despite the fact that Goku and Gohan were not retaining their SSj forms before the fight, they have to be mastered SSjs. Reasons: Gohan was a SSj, and Trunks had long hair. These two FACTS can only lead us to the conclusion that they are all POST-ROSAT. There cannot be a such thing as "Mid-ROSAT", as it is simply impossible. There is only Pre and Post ROSAT. That's all. Also, Goku did not transform into a Mastered SSj upon receiving the last morsel of energy from vegeta. All it was, was a power-up. That's it. I happen to believe though that Goku was already a MSSj prior to receiving all the energy. After the Cell Games, a lot of people are mastered SSjs, [Goku, Gohan, Vegeta, Goten, Trunks] but they dont retain the SSj form all the time do they? No, they dont. So why cant that be the case here, in movie 8?[/quote]And the movies are 'impossible', too, if that gives less pause. That's why they're what-if scenarios, and that's why terming the capacity of the combatants in question as 'mid-RoSaT' isn't really 'out there', lamentable, or gutsy as we see Goku project a much more fierce aura after his 'power-up', denoting that it could have been activating the power of a pseudo-MSSj state (and that with the lended Chi was more than enough to thoroughly own Broli) . __________________

12-04-2006	#17 (permalink)
Broly The Desolate One Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: You think I give a shit about where you think I stay? Posts: 7,538 Blog Entries: 1 Rep Power: 31	Re: Cell Junior versus Broly (movie 8) Well, not "thoroughly" actually, he didnt die. What's your comment on the end of my paragraph? Also, "Pseudo-MSSj" is not a real form, but I get what you mean. __________________ $E:\Avatars\I am [not] God.JPG$ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6wS5xOZ7Rq8 Silence is golden, ducktape is silver, a bullet is bronze.

12-16-2006	#18 (permalink)
Sir.Nosferatu (1) Earthling Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 6 Rep Power: 0	Re: Cell Junior versus Broly (movie 8) OK A Cell Jr. is more powerful than a FPSSJ Goku. LSSJ Broly lost to a FPSSJ Goku. Now let me see here. FPSSJ Goku (Cell Games) was considerably weaker than Goku with all that energy. So heres my chart. Goku w/ energy > LSSJ Broly FPSSJ Goku < Cell Jr. Therefore... Goku w/ energy > LSSJ Broly > Cell Jr > FPSSJ Goku

12-16-2006	#19 (permalink)
Zer0 Super Moderator Join Date: May 2006 Location: Hn, None of your business Posts: 10,113 Blog Entries: 4 Rep Power: 135	Re: Cell Junior versus Broly (movie 8) [quote user="Sir.Nosferatu"] OK A Cell Jr. is more powerful than a FPSSJ Goku. LSSJ Broly lost to a FPSSJ Goku. Now let me see here. FPSSJ Goku (Cell Games) was considerably weaker than Goku with all that energy. So heres my chart. Goku w/ energy > LSSJ Broly FPSSJ Goku < Cell Jr. Therefore... Goku w/ energy > LSSJ Broly > Cell Jr > FPSSJ Goku [/quote] Mastered Super Saiyan Son Goku (Cell Games Arc) is not weaker than the Cell Juniors. He was very tired from his fight with Perfect Cell and that is why he lost against the Cell Junior. MSS Son Goku (Cell Games Full Power) >>>>> Cell Junior > ASS Vegeta > MSS Son Goku (Cell Games, not full power) >>> LSS Broly __________________ Want a colored username? Then check out the Weekly Naruto & Bleach Caption Contests.

12-16-2006	#20 (permalink)
JAIF Moderator Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Piercing the Heavens and stuff. Posts: 5,813 Rep Power: 58	Re: Cell Junior versus Broly (movie 8) [quote user="Zer0"] Mastered Super Saiyan Son Goku (Cell Games Arc) is not weaker than the Cell Juniors. He was very tired from his fight with Perfect Cell and that is why he lost against the Cell Junior. MSS Son Goku (Cell Games Full Power) >>>>> Cell Junior > ASS Vegeta > MSS Son Goku (Cell Games, not full power) >>> LSS Broly [/quote] Wait how come MSSj Goku is so powerful? I mean he can be like 2x a Cell jr but not more. __________________ Empty until further notice.

12-16-2006	#21 (permalink)
Zer0 Super Moderator Join Date: May 2006 Location: Hn, None of your business Posts: 10,113 Blog Entries: 4 Rep Power: 135	Re: Cell Junior versus Broly (movie 8) [quote user="SuperVegetto3"] [quote user="Zer0"] Mastered Super Saiyan Son Goku (Cell Games Arc) is not weaker than the Cell Juniors. He was very tired from his fight with Perfect Cell and that is why he lost against the Cell Junior. MSS Son Goku (Cell Games Full Power) >>>>> Cell Junior > ASS Vegeta > MSS Son Goku (Cell Games, not full power) >>> LSS Broly [/quote] Wait how come MSSj Goku is so powerful? I mean he can be like 2x a Cell jr but not more. [/quote] When I used >>>>> it wasn't to equal more than twice as strong but more like 1.5 - 2 times stronger than a Cell Junior. __________________ Want a colored username? Then check out the Weekly Naruto & Bleach Caption Contests.

02-13-2008	#22 (permalink)
Cyrax (20) Super Saiyan 2 Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Argentina Posts: 1,450 Rep Power: 10	Re: Cell Junior versus Broly (movie 8) Not only is power. The techniques and abilities are who decide the destining of the fight. Cell jr. win. __________________ Freeza, Cooler, Janemba and Hatchhyack fan. My AMVs: *Freeza:* http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jmu-u_EhXwg Metal Cooler: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VUUUoYscVrA Janemba: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5buLCXzpq1A

02-13-2008	#24 (permalink)
m.collins (17) Super Saiyan Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 712 Blog Entries: 4 Rep Power: 13	Re: Cell Junior versus Broly (movie 8) Broly would win. since he is very very strong. __________________

02-13-2008	#26 (permalink)
Broly The Desolate One Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: You think I give a shit about where you think I stay? Posts: 7,538 Blog Entries: 1 Rep Power: 31	Re: Cell Junior versus Broly (movie 8) Broly > MSSj Gohan [Movie 10] </= Dabura > Cell Jr. Stated. Broly wins. __________________ $E:\Avatars\I am [not] God.JPG$ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6wS5xOZ7Rq8 Silence is golden, ducktape is silver, a bullet is bronze.

02-13-2008	#27 (permalink)
Senzu_Bean (22) Super Saiyan 3 Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Portugal Posts: 1,891 Rep Power: 11	Re: Cell Junior versus Broly (movie 8) This is Broly from Movie 8, which is substantially weaker than a MSSj (considering Goku wasn't a MSSj in the movie). But seeing how Trunks and Vegeta held against Cell Jr. (considering they weren't hold back) and how they were beat by Broly, I say Broly.

02-13-2008	#28 (permalink)
Broly's#1fan (14) Warrior of Namek Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Canada Posts: 364 Rep Power: 0	Re: Cell Junior versus Broly (movie 8) It took all of FPSS Goku power with all of the energy from FPSS Gohan, USS3 Vegeta, USS3 Trunks, Piccolo[fused with Kami with training.] all released in one punch re-opening a scar and colliding with an enormous comet to stop Go...I mean Broly's rampage. All of this still couldn't kill him! With this proof, LSS Broly would obliterate the Celljr.'s even better and more efficiently than SS2 Gohan. LSS>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Celljr's. What a pointless thread.