SSJ4 Vegeta

stefzed54 · 06-05-2008

How strong do you think he is in comparison to SSJ4 Goku?

Do you believe he is as strong or stronger than SSJ4 Goku, or is he around SSJ4 Goku, beyond limits power?

Jay · 06-05-2008

I'ld put him as weaker and I'll say that Ssj4 Goku surpressed his power to perform the fusion.

Why?

Because of the Oozaru multipliers from Base. In GT, Goku was greater than Vegeta, even if Vegeta ascended up to Ssj2.

- TGD

Eragon · 06-05-2008

I remember some comments being made which made Vegeta seem to be stronger than Goku- like Bulma joking he was SSJ5, a claim he made about being stronger, and the boot to Shenron's face.

But... I'd say Goku. Main character power ups, among other things. It just seems wierd to suggest that, after the whole series basically launting how much stronger than everyone he was, it made a U-Turn and made his rival the strongest.

stefzed54 · 06-05-2008

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Originally Posted by The Green Dragon

I'ld put him as weaker and I'll say that Ssj4 Goku surpressed his power to perform the fusion.

Exactly what I was thinking, but some people disagree because they didnt "see" Goku supress his power.

And yeah Base Kid Goku is superior to SSJ2 Vegeta.

Dupe of USSJed · 06-05-2008

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And yeah Base Kid Goku is superior to SSJ2 Vegeta.

Shows how gay that series really is. There is no way SSJ4 Vegeta is anywhere near SSJ4 Goku.

SSJ4 Vegito · 06-05-2008

I'd say SSJ4 Vegeta isn't too far off from normal SSJ4 Goku. I know alot of people will disagree, however let's not forget when Gohan fought Vegeta, he had Baby inside of him (And seeing as how being Possessed by Baby allowed Vegeta to become Uber strong even by GT Goku's standards) the same would somewhat apply for Gohan & Goten seeing as how their Ki Blasts change from the usual Yellow to Pink. Plus just the fact that after the Tournament when Vegeta went SSJ, Goku also went SSJ just tells me that Base Goku couldn't have beaten Vegeta's Super Saiyan Form.

stefzed54 · 06-06-2008

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Originally Posted by SSJ4 Vegito

Plus just the fact that after the Tournament when Vegeta went SSJ, Goku also went SSJ just tells me that Base Goku couldn't have beaten Vegeta's Super Saiyan Form.

That was just for entertainment !

Base Kid Goku pwns SSJ Vegeta badly.

It would be like Kid Buu Vs Good Buu

SSJBulma · 06-06-2008

Simply because he cheated and seems to have bypassed SSJ3 I'd say that Goku would be stronger. Plus it's Goku,no oe is suppose to be stronger, which is an annoying cop-out a lot of the time. I still like. him though
I'm actually confused about the whole Vegeta SSJ4 thing....

SSJ4 Vegito · 06-06-2008

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Originally Posted by stefzed54

That was just for entertainment !

Base Kid Goku pwns SSJ Vegeta badly.

It would be like Kid Buu Vs Good Buu

What about all the other stuff, I talked about in my post?

**Zer0** · 06-06-2008

I've always placed Super Saiyan 4 Vegeta below Super Saiyan 4 Goku (w/ energy given from the others) but not by a large amount, like the difference between Goten and Trunks.

IIRC Goku originally thought Vegeta and him were going to double team Yi Xing Long (7 Dragonballs absorbed). Also, IIRC, Vegeta said he was fully capable of killing Yi Xing Long, obviously without the Dragonballs absorbed.

Devilz · 06-06-2008

SSJ4 Goku - 100
SSJ4 Vegeta - 127
SSJ4 Goku (limits surpassed) - 140

That's about how I have it.

SSJ4 Vegito · 06-06-2008

Well I can see that but Goku was weakened from fighting Omega Shenron ahead of time though. Plus when Vegeta bragged about being able to take Syn Shenron, Syn Shenron had just been hit with a Big Bang Kamehameha he was in no condition to face anyone.

stefzed54 · 06-06-2008

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Originally Posted by Devilz

SSJ4 Goku - 100
SSJ4 Vegeta - 127
SSJ4 Goku (limits surpassed) - 140

That's about how I have it.

Then you have it wrong.

SSJBulma · 06-06-2008

I think they should of had a battle between the two in GT. I mean it would of been so much better to have a random fight for whatever silly reason than some of those boring filler episodes.

Devilz · 06-06-2008

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Originally Posted by stefzed54

Then you have it wrong.

Then maybe you should stop trolling.

06-05-2008	#6 (permalink)
SSJ4 Vegito (26) Great Elder of Namek Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 4,482 Rep Power: 138	Re: SSJ4 Vegeta I'd say SSJ4 Vegeta isn't too far off from normal SSJ4 Goku. I know alot of people will disagree, however let's not forget when Gohan fought Vegeta, he had Baby inside of him (And seeing as how being Possessed by Baby allowed Vegeta to become Uber strong even by GT Goku's standards) the same would somewhat apply for Gohan & Goten seeing as how their Ki Blasts change from the usual Yellow to Pink. Plus just the fact that after the Tournament when Vegeta went SSJ, Goku also went SSJ just tells me that Base Goku couldn't have beaten Vegeta's Super Saiyan Form.

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SSJBulma (29) Great Lord of Worlds Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: In a soup-kitchen stealin your soupz! Posts: 8,790 Blog Entries: 7 Rep Power: 155	Re: SSJ4 Vegeta Simply because he cheated and seems to have bypassed SSJ3 I'd say that Goku would be stronger. Plus it's Goku,no oe is suppose to be stronger, which is an annoying cop-out a lot of the time. I still like. him though I'm actually confused about the whole Vegeta SSJ4 thing.... __________________ http://revandesigns.weebly.com/gaming-newsreviews.html

06-06-2008	#10 (permalink)
Zer0 Super Moderator Join Date: May 2006 Location: Hn, None of your business Posts: 10,193 Blog Entries: 4 Rep Power: 148	Re: SSJ4 Vegeta I've always placed Super Saiyan 4 Vegeta below Super Saiyan 4 Goku (w/ energy given from the others) but not by a large amount, like the difference between Goten and Trunks. IIRC Goku originally thought Vegeta and him were going to double team Yi Xing Long (7 Dragonballs absorbed). Also, IIRC, Vegeta said he was fully capable of killing Yi Xing Long, obviously without the Dragonballs absorbed. __________________ Want a colored username? Then check out the Weekly Naruto & Bleach Caption Contests.

06-06-2008	#12 (permalink)
SSJ4 Vegito (26) Great Elder of Namek Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 4,482 Rep Power: 138	Re: SSJ4 Vegeta Well I can see that but Goku was weakened from fighting Omega Shenron ahead of time though. Plus when Vegeta bragged about being able to take Syn Shenron, Syn Shenron had just been hit with a Big Bang Kamehameha he was in no condition to face anyone.

06-06-2008	#14 (permalink)
SSJBulma (29) Great Lord of Worlds Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: In a soup-kitchen stealin your soupz! Posts: 8,790 Blog Entries: 7 Rep Power: 155	Re: SSJ4 Vegeta I think they should of had a battle between the two in GT. I mean it would of been so much better to have a random fight for whatever silly reason than some of those boring filler episodes. __________________ http://revandesigns.weebly.com/gaming-newsreviews.html