SSJ4 Vegito

There is a solution to Pilaf being alive and it just occured to me when I was reading the last Manga Volume. Here is the exact quote from Dende: "Um...please bring back everyone who died after the day Bobbidi the warlock came to earth! Except for the very Evil ones...!
So as you can see Dende said: "VERY" evil ones (Mostly intending that for Bobbidi and Dabura & all the other Henchmen) so since Pilaf was probably not doing much evil (Not nearly to the extent Dabura & Babidi were) and since Dende only asked for the VERY evil ones not to be brought back therefore Pilaf being alive is possible.

Deep Thought

I dunno, I still think that attempting to happily cook four relatively innocent people alive without mercy is very evil.

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apocalypse1280

Exactly.

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SSJ4 Vegito

Yes, but that was over 20 years ago. Pilaf had never done anything like that in recent times.

Kazekage Gaara

Vegeta also killed over 200 people SHORTLY AGO without even caring, and King Yemma would had exiled him into hell if it were not for the dire circumstances.

200 people a few days ago or attempting to cook 5 people 20 years ago, which is more evil?It should be easy!

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SSJ4 Vegito

That's exactly my point, Porunga thought of Vegeta as a good person but just days ago he killed people at the Tournament just for the Hell of it. Yet, Porunga restored his life.

SSGokuTim

Why are people always attacking GT because it has plotholes? DBZ and DB had just as many plot holes because of filler inconsistencies. And I brought the Pilaf issue up in another thread and it was dismissed instantly. I don't see why people would still discuss it.

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SSGokuTim

Technically, it wasn't my issue because it's been mentioned on other sites before, but I posted about it here.

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I'd beg to differ.

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I'd like to hear your explanation for this one...

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apocalypse1280

I'd definitely like to hear your(or others) explanations first. I mean, how can GT have more plotholes then the original series which suggests that Piccolo is a demon, then BANG!... all of a sudden he's an alien from the planet Namek.

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How is that a plothole? If anything, it's an example of a retcon. But the point is, Piccolo and Kami had no idea what their origin was. They thought they were demons.

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Dupe of USSJed

Lol, plothole sighted off the port bow.

Anyway, Plotholes in GT could be forgiven, if the rest of the series wasn't garbage. But it was, and so nothing is forgiven.

Deep Thought

1. How about Mystic Gohan losing his power up?

2. How come Vegeta had trouble controlling his Oozaru (whatever it's called) form in GT? In the Sayajin Saga, he had no trouble, at all.

3. Two #17's fused being far more powerful than Super Sayajin Vegeto. Well, lets see the difference between Super Sayajin Goku and Vegeta (Buu Saga) and Android 17#:

Perfect Cell (Full Power) > Super Sayajin Goku (Buu Saga) > Super Sayajin Vegeta (Buu Saga) >> Perfect Cell (Percentage used against Gohan) > Gohan (Cell Saga) > Perfect Cell (Percentage used against Goku) > Goku (Cell Saga) ≥ Gohan (Buu Saga) >> Cell Jr. ≥ USSj Vegeta (Cell Games Saga) ≥ USSj Trunks (Cell Games Saga) > SSj Vegeta (Cell Games Saga) ≥ SSj Trunks (Cell Games Saga) > Perfect Cell (little effort) > USSj Vegeta (Imperfect Cell Saga) ≥ USSj Trunks (Imperfect Cell Saga) ≥ Perfect Cell (Warming Up) >>> Imperfect Cell (Full Power) >> Imperfect Cell >>>> 16# ≥ 1st Form Cell (countless humans absorbed) >>>> Piccolo = 17#

Yeah....

4. Speaking of Super 17, why did Super 17 have trouble beating base Kid Goku, yet he easily beat Super Sayajin 4 Goku.

5. The black star balls were made by "Kamiccolo," right? Well, how come the supposed creator didn't know about his own creation.

6. Goku's tail in the original series was REMOVED, not shrank down.

7. SSj4 clothes being a part of the form itself. The character's shirts disappear when they transform, and other differences like Goku's belt changing and Vegeta's gloves changing too.

8. Vegeta re growing a tail when he was exposed to Bruits waves. This plot hole is so incredibly stupid because it's actually a plot hole of a plot hole. Goku's tail had to be pulled out in order for him to Transform (remember, him even having a tail is a plot hole), and Vegeta's just mysteriously grows back.

9. Goku Jr being a Super Saiyan, it was stated that people with blood that was too diluted couldn't ascend, that explains why Pan couldn't

10. Uub not being Goku's successor as Earth's defender, that was the entire purpose of Goku training him in the first place.

11. Base Kid Goku defeating both dead Freeza and Cell.

12. SSj 4 Goku's inability to break free of regular Oozaru Vegeta's grasp. Goku should've been able to pawn him, considering that he could match Golden Oozaru Bebi-Vegeta.

13. Goku's "double point" Kamehameha being the most powerful one, "double point" as in combining chi into a single blast from two different sources (each hand). Raditz states at the very beginning of Dragon Ball Z that Goku's chi blasts are abnormally strong because he focuses his chi into a SINGLE point using both hand. Why would a blast be stronger when made from two weaker points instead of one stronger point?

14. Vegeta's random growth of height in GT. Throughout the entire Z series, Vegeta was as tall as Bulma, making him shorter than Goku and Piccolo. However, in GT, he suddenly becomes considerably taller than Bulma.

15. Omega Shenron, post Dragon absorption, was way too weak. Remember, a 1.3x difference is enough to destroy somebody in one shot. Going by that logic he should've destroyed Super Sayajin 4 Goku and Vegeta in a few punches.

16. Why did Gogeta's hair turn red? To get the color red, you need to fuse yellow and orange, not black and brown. Geez.

17. Why didn't Omega Shenron's Ki blast have no effect on a base kid Goku?

18. How did Vegeta manage to survive from the all power Omega Shenron in his SSJ form, when he was stabbed and electrocuted?

19. No confirmed transformations to SSj2 (WTF??!).

20. Kami never mentioned the flaw in the Dragon Balls of over-usage.

21. Vegeta being the one to suggest fusion, after stating in Z that he would NEVER fuse with Goku again. Also Goku and Vegeta being equal in power at SSj4, Goku should've been stronger.

22. Rou Dai Kaioshin knowing about SSj4 when it had never appeared before.

23. Goku Jr.s ancestry: following the rules of Saiyan genetics, he should've been descended from Goten, not Gohan. Also you have to wonder whether or not he would share Goku's resemblence or not, his blood might have been too diluted. Vegeta Jr is an interesting case, he should've been descended from a second son of Vegeta's.

24. Pilaf said that the Black-star Dragon balls were created back when Piccolo and Kami were one being. If that's true, then they should have turned to stone when they were split.

25. Goku Surpassed limit, and was still able to fuse with Vegeta, who turned Super Saiya-Jin 4 two minutes prior. They didn't have to wait an hour to refuse. They made up some shit rule about how they could only be fused for 10 minutes, god. Shoot this thing down.

26. When Goku fought Super Android 17 in Super Saiyan, his tail remained brown, Sayajin tails are covered in fur/hair, so shouldn't it turn blonde/gold like Goku's hair and eyebrows?

27. SSj 4 having red fur, where the hell did the red fur come from? To push this to the point of absurdity, the SSJ 4 form also has black hair. It should be all red like Gogeta's or completely black.

28. Vegeta being able to transform into an Oozaru without his tail, then he could just turn into a SSj 4.

29. Villains keeping their physical bodies intact in Hell is another plot hole in GT.

30. Plot hole: Super 17's aura. Androids don't have auras, other then Cell who actually is not an android.

31. I also noticed Bebi going Oozaru without a tail. They tried to explain it, but they phailed hardcore. No tail, no business.

32. In the GT movie, it said that Pan was the only left Z fighter or something like that. So where's Master Roshi? Did he die? How cane that be? He is immortal, and I doubt his immortality ran out. So why isn't he training Goku Jr.? I mean, if he could live up to 300 or so years then w