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vegeta ssj4 (red saiyan) would defeat utimate gohan?

The Electron Zone

SSJ4 doesn't exist in canonverse.

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Mr-Blonde_139

In GT? With ease.

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USSJed

Theres no way SSJ4 could beat ultimate Gohan, SSJ4 is the weakest transformation, only 10x power. They only used it because it made Goku into an adult again. And Vegeta just wanted to fit in...

...also this should have been done in the GT forum...

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USSJed: Thats fair enough, but what if, the NKikoho pushed Cell down through Sheer Force, no 'its a pushing attack that does no damage' or 'it mind controlled Cell to make him crash into the ground', just force.What PL would you give Tien, if Cell was 1,000,000,000

stefzed54

Which is quite alot to be fair, If it's DBZ SSJ4 Vegeta we are talking about (Theoretically) Then I'd say SSJ4 Vegeta would pwn Ultimate Gohan with ease.

remixremix

SSj4 goku is like 15 times more stonger then mystic

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stefzed54

It depends if Vegeta is aloud to tap into SSJ3 or not, before going SSJ4

SSJ2 Majin Vegeta: 150
SSJ4 Majin Vegeta: 1,500 (SSJ4)
Ultimate Gohan: 2,700

Therefore Ultimate Gohan WTFpwns SSJ4 Vegeta.

USSJed

That depends on whether your a loyal Vegeta fan, who says that Vegeta could turn SSJ3 in GT but didn't for some reason, or a scum Vegeta hater, who's opinion is worthless. Let us rise up Vegeta lovers, we shall set the Earth aflame, with the fires of truth, and let it burn to the ashes of justice.

Chibi Mystic Gohan

Says who?

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USSJed

Says I, apparantly. Where is my post that said that, I know I did but it sure isn't here...

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USSJed: Thats fair enough, but what if, the NKikoho pushed Cell down through Sheer Force, no 'its a pushing attack that does no damage' or 'it mind controlled Cell to make him crash into the ground', just force.What PL would you give Tien, if Cell was 1,000,000,000

stefzed54

I think some people base it on the 10x Ozaru multiplier.

USSJed

Well it's either x10, or x500. Fuck x500, I go with the x10, I don't see no SSJ aura or glowing fur. Hell, it could be a theoretical x3000, based on the SSJ3=x300 theory.

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USSJed: Thats fair enough, but what if, the NKikoho pushed Cell down through Sheer Force, no 'its a pushing attack that does no damage' or 'it mind controlled Cell to make him crash into the ground', just force.What PL would you give Tien, if Cell was 1,000,000,000

Chibi Mystic Gohan

Is it that hard to skim the topic for a minute? It's the fourth post in the topic.

Anyway, any "multiplier" for Super Saiyan 4 (or any form, except perhaps the original form) is made up.

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USSJed

lol, I saw this

Stuff in red was missed, and I am serious, how did I miss that one part when I was actively looking for it?

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USSJed: Thats fair enough, but what if, the NKikoho pushed Cell down through Sheer Force, no 'its a pushing attack that does no damage' or 'it mind controlled Cell to make him crash into the ground', just force.What PL would you give Tien, if Cell was 1,000,000,000

Madness

Well seeing as this isn't the GT forum, this is a theoretical Z SSJ4. Simply by the rules

In that case, Gohan would win. I can't see SSJ4 being more than a 2 times increase at most. Maybe 3. That wouldn't close the gap IMO.

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