Who was stronger, Super 17 or Kid Goku?

Cyrax · 05-11-2008

Who was stronger in Hell saga, Super 17 (pre-absorb) or Kid Goku (base)???

stefzed54 · 05-11-2008

What are you, some sort of troll?

gokussj2 · 05-11-2008

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Originally Posted by Cyrax

Who was stronger in Hell saga, Super 17 (post-absorb) or Kid Goku (base)???

almost sure pilaf would beat them both

Remixxx · 05-12-2008

Cyrax is -removed-

-Videl full power would win

Evil Vegeta · 05-12-2008

Uh, Super #17.

SSJ4 Vegito · 05-12-2008

If your confused about Base Goku defeated Super 17 is was for 2 reasons:

1. Goku used an attack that was SOOOO much more powerful than him.
2. Super 17 was open for attack while absorbing energy.

Also Goku had to shoot Super 17 with a Kamehameha after he used the Dragon Fist. So yeah, Super 17>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Base Goku (GT)

Cyrax · 05-12-2008

I should explain my thread.
If Super 17 is stronger than Kid Goku (GT), why he need absorb energy???
If Super 14 can take SSJ4 Goku, Why was he beaten by Kid Goku???

stefzed54 · 05-12-2008

Because Kid Goku used the dragon fist, which can punch through anything.

feon2 · 05-16-2008

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Originally Posted by stefzed54

Because Kid Goku used the dragon fist, which can punch through anything.

And because GT is retarded.

Remixxx · 05-16-2008

Not that much

Cyrax · 05-16-2008

I don't understand. why Super 17 take SSJ4 Goku and them was beaten by Kid Goku punch

GT logic???

Evil Vegeta · 05-16-2008

Super #17 only lost because his defense was down, and down by a whole lot.

SSJ4 Vegito · 05-17-2008

That and the fact that the "Dragon Fist" is an extremely powerful attack just like the Spirit Bomb, Final Flash, Special Beam Cannon and a few others it can hurt/kill enemies who are much stronger than the user.

Vicdmx · 05-17-2008

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Originally Posted by Evil Vegeta

Super #17 only lost because his defense was down, and down by a whole lot.

Exactly.. Super 17 was quite injured so then Goku got the chance to defeat him.. and anyway GT is freakin retard and has so many damn plotholes!

Just like this one.. Super 17 was kind of beating up ssj4 goku and then goku goes to base and bang super 17 is dead! that is freakin retarded!

Anyways .. Super 17>>>>>>>>>Base Goku.

Oh and we have to fact out that Android 18 helped goku out a lot.

~~JC#1~~ · 05-17-2008

S17 got stronger while fighting, so there is no accurate power level. He beat Goku. Simple. Goku MIGHT've been able to defeat him if he hadn't kept getting so stronger, but there isn't a huge chance of that. Goku was shown as being strong enough to survive, but not strong enough to defeat 17, until 17 got even stronger and stronger and Goku didn't have any chance of getting out alive, so he had to go SS4. If he could sustain SS3, he wouldn't be able to defeat him as he got stronger and stronger, but before his strength increased, I think SS3 Goku could've taken him.

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SSJ4 Vegito (26) Great Elder of Namek Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 4,482 Rep Power: 138	Re: Who was stronger, Super 17 or Kid Goku? If your confused about Base Goku defeated Super 17 is was for 2 reasons: 1. Goku used an attack that was SOOOO much more powerful than him. 2. Super 17 was open for attack while absorbing energy. Also Goku had to shoot Super 17 with a Kamehameha after he used the Dragon Fist. So yeah, Super 17>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Base Goku (GT)

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Cyrax (20) Super Saiyan 2 Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Argentina Posts: 1,490 Rep Power: 14	Re: Who was stronger, Super 17 or Kid Goku? I should explain my thread. If Super 17 is stronger than Kid Goku (GT), why he need absorb energy??? If Super 14 can take SSJ4 Goku, Why was he beaten by Kid Goku??? __________________

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stefzed54 (23) Final Warrior Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: UK Posts: 2,387 Rep Power: 71	Re: Who was stronger, Super 17 or Kid Goku? Because Kid Goku used the dragon fist, which can punch through anything.

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Cyrax (20) Super Saiyan 2 Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Argentina Posts: 1,490 Rep Power: 14	Re: Who was stronger, Super 17 or Kid Goku? I don't understand. why Super 17 take SSJ4 Goku and them was beaten by Kid Goku punch GT logic??? __________________

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SSJ4 Vegito (26) Great Elder of Namek Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 4,482 Rep Power: 138	Re: Who was stronger, Super 17 or Kid Goku? That and the fact that the "Dragon Fist" is an extremely powerful attack just like the Spirit Bomb, Final Flash, Special Beam Cannon and a few others it can hurt/kill enemies who are much stronger than the user.

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~~JC#1~~ Banned Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 1,806 Rep Power: 0	Re: Who was stronger, Super 17 or Kid Goku? S17 got stronger while fighting, so there is no accurate power level. He beat Goku. Simple. Goku MIGHT've been able to defeat him if he hadn't kept getting so stronger, but there isn't a huge chance of that. Goku was shown as being strong enough to survive, but not strong enough to defeat 17, until 17 got even stronger and stronger and Goku didn't have any chance of getting out alive, so he had to go SS4. If he could sustain SS3, he wouldn't be able to defeat him as he got stronger and stronger, but before his strength increased, I think SS3 Goku could've taken him.