stefzed54

Has anyone noticed....

Base Goku fights with Android 13 equally, then Goku transforms into a SSJ, which gives him a 40x strength increase, yet Android 13 is still able to hold his ground?

Same thing with Vegeta and Trunk's fights with the other Androids.

Why do you think this is? I've always thought because Dr Gero's computer made these Androids, the computer kept updating their strength, thats why they were able to match the SSJ's, because the computer updates them with unlimited power, but I could be wrong.

What's your thoughts?

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remixremix

You do realize that the fight between ssj goku and android 13 never happend they never fought....After goku turned ssj 13 abosrbed 14 and 15 and turned super

-and just to add android 14 and 15 never fought equally against SSJ vegeta and trunks they where almost immediatlly killed after they turned SSJ

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stefzed54

I watched the episode just this second ago, and they did fight for a moment.

And No 14 and 15 were not killed straight away, the one that Vegeta was fighting pounded him and made him turn back into base, the android then self destructed so he could become one with 13.

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remixremix

What 14 selfdestructed no he was beaten by SSj vegeta vegeta punched him and then his head fell off and he exploded.....

YouTube - vegeta vs android 14 (15 vs vegeta)

YouTube - dbz movie 7 trunks kill android 14 (14 vs ssj trunks)

SSJ Trunks destroyes 14 with the sword

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stefzed54

LOL I stand corrected....And by you, it's shocking.

So how strong do you reckon 13, 14 and 15 are? Around the saiyans base stats.

If they so they are incredibly weak for Androids.

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remixremix

Well thank you hehehhehhe.....

-Well i think that 15 is stronger then base vegeta and a lot weaker then ssj vegeta

-The same goes for SSj trunks and android 14

-Goku and android 13 where almost equal but i think 13 had an advantage....But when Goku turned SSJ they never fought only piccolo interfierd and send 13 to the gorund...then 13 turned super BECAUSE HE was weaker

-Overall 14,15,13 are not strong androids maybe around the power level of 20 and 19 SUPER 13 AROUND 17 AND 18

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stefzed54

Look at the way SSJ Goku, Vegeta and Trunks attacked Super 13, not one physical or energy attack even made him flinch.

At least Vegeta actually stood a chance in his and 18's fight.

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remixremix

-Vegeta never stood a chance against her she was just toying with him...And 18 also never break a sweat against vegeta..she was just trying to see how strong he is since the data she had about him where wrong

-Super 13 didnt power up enemrouslly .......he just pumped up his muscles and did the same that 17 and 18 did....

-If you look at the fight later on super 13 punched goku like 15 times then shoot energy blast at him and then even fired his strongest attack and goku was still able to stand up and still had the power to turn SSJ...thats why

-If super 13 was above 17 or 18 he would killed all the saiyans with one punch


Stage Two Cell took a punch from 16 without flinching, too. So, if people are insistent on going only by "didn't feel a punch", then:

(Super Android 13 / Super Saiyan Vegeta) = (Stage Two Cell / Android 16)

Now find the ratio of Cell over 16, and find the level of Super Saiyan Vegeta. Fit the ratio to Vegeta, and you have 13's level

stefzed54

I disagree, but I guess I can never change your mind on that one.

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remixremix

Well when she said thats she was toying


-Stage Two Cell took a punch from 16 without flinching, too. So, if people are insistent on going only by "didn't feel a punch", then:

(Super Android 13 / Super Saiyan Vegeta) = (Stage Two Cell / Android 16)

Now find the ratio of Cell over 16, and find the level of Super Saiyan Vegeta. Fit the ratio to Vegeta, and you have 13's level

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stefzed54

Vegeta stated she was toying with him, I dont recall 18 stating that.

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SSJ4 Vegito

Well It's possible they knew about Goku's SSJ Transformation (Aswell as the others) and wanted to kill them at their best. Plus for what its worth Goku & 13 were mostly exchanging energy attacks. Plus after Vegeta, Trunks, Goku & Piccolo surrounded #13 you can notice a whole bunch of scratches on #13's chest and face. If Goku & he would've continued I believe 13 wouldn't have lasted much longer.

remixremix

Manga Fox: Dragon Ball Vol.30 Ch.003 Online Manga Scans

Here is the link she said that she was just toying

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stefzed54

Base Android 13 would have been easily eliminated by SSJ Goku.

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