stefzed54

Well 17 was worried, so I guess SSJ Vegeta isnt that much weaker than 18, but weak enough to be beaten.

I seriously doubt Android 18 has anymore of an advantage than 1.3x

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remixremix

Well he wasnt worried he said that he dont know since the datas dr.fero gave them where wrong

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Evil Vegeta

He was worried that #18 might not be able to handle of them; including Tien, Krillin, and Piccolo. That in itself is flawed, and since he didn't have proper data on them, he was just guessing.

I think #18 had at least a 1.7x power advantage over SSJ Vegeta. He was stated to be powerless against her, that wouldn't be the case if he was close to her in power; though a 1.3x isn't bad.

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stefzed54

He didnt have any data, but watching SSJ Vegeta fighting Android 18 made him think she couldnt handle all the other Z fighters (She probably could, dont get me wrong)

Here are some rough numbers I came up with just now..

SSJ Vegeta: 380,000,000
Android 18: 435,000,000

I think this is a nice advantage for 18, but not a huge advantage because Vegeta was going blow for blow with her at first, but then he was getting tired, whilst 18 was never losing energy, hence why he eventually got pwned by 18.

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remixremix

She said she was playing with him

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Evil Vegeta

That's kinda where I can see their power level's, but her power can be kinda higher then that. He seemed to be matching her, but his attacks did no damage to her, while her attacks did damage to Vegeta. The beginning of the battle could be compared to Perfect Cell's battle with MSSJ Goku.

Cell was clearly more powerful, but he used the amount of power needed to match Goku's power, that's what #18 seemed to do; even though she could've pummeled him endlessly from the beginning if she felt like it.

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SSJ4 Vegito

Well Vegeta DID manage to survive the longest in the Android battle not to mention he showed that he could knock 18 around shortly after the 2nd round. Plus SSJ Goku being there in place of Tien & Krillin would pose ALOT more of a threat. Super 13 just simply took all their blows and didn't even budge. So that's why I always put Super 13 AT least stronger than 17 & 18 although I wouldn't say he's as strong as 16 but he's not too far off in my opinion.

remixremix

I decided to put Super 13 below 17 and 18 since his attacks and his strongest attacks werent able to hurt base goku that much.
-He just pumped up his muscles but when it comes to speed and power he semeed rather weake.

-HE DID NOTHING THAT 17 OR 18 DIDNT

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stefzed54

If Super 13 was below 18 and 17, then why did ever Z fighter get badly pwned by Super 13? The Saiyans are a little bit stronger in this movie as well.

Plus since when could the likes of 18 and 17 use a certain amount of power? They have no ki control, they fight as they are, they cannot power up, or supress their levels.

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remixremix

I m saying a litlle below or at the same power level but above i dont think...all the saiyans where also badlly owned by 17 and 18...and the saiyans are not a litlle bit stronger they have the same power level as when fighting 17 and 18

-He didnt get any incredible power up he just pumped up his mucles if he did base goku would be dead by just one of his attacks

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stefzed54

Android 16: 750,000,000
Super 13: 695,000,000
Android 17: 510,000,000
Android 18: 435,000,000

That's how I see it.

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remixremix

This is how i see it

Android 17:5000000
android 18:4900000
Super android 13:47000000

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stefzed54

5 mil for Android 17?

Far too low, seeming Freiza is 100 Mil +

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remixremix

Well i wanted to say
android 17:500 Millions
18=494 Millions
super android 13=472 Millions

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stefzed54

You could have just came out with the numbers LOL make it a little easier to read.

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