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Old 04-25-2008   #16 (permalink)
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Pan would be around Frieza's strength.....greater than Trunks or Goten in their base would not be accurate...
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Old 04-25-2008   #17 (permalink)
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If Pan was stronger than Frieza she would be able to go Super Saiyan(even if there wasn't a female SS design).
I disagree Pan was concieved when Gohan still had his latent power. So she doesn't get the gene to become a Super Saiyan like Trunks & Goten. Perhaps on top of that it may be harder for her due to the fact that she's a girl and 1 quarter Saiyan. So perhaps she has to become enraged like Goku was when he first Transformed.
Plus she survived a hit from those Sigma force guys. I have Goku (Base) being a wide margin better than SSJ2 power in the Buu Saga. The Sigma force combinded died from a Kamehameha from Goku (But it didn't disintegrate them). So that should place The Sigma force Cannon around SSJ2 Adult Gohan. If you divide that by 3 (Since the force is made up of 3 guys) That's below Perfect Cell at Full Power. Teen Gohan killed the Cell Juniors in one hit but these guys who are somewhere close to Full Power Perfect Cell and she survived one of their blows, I'd say she's far above Android power but Semi-Perfect Cell might be stretching it.
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^ I think you are wandering too much.

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So slightly above Goten and Trunks when shes not enraged?
Actually weaker than them when she is suppressed.
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probbaly around frezzas 2 form not anymore

-Androids typed like 17 and 18 can get stronger if they can give birth then its normal that they can become stronger
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I always considered her to be weaker than Trunks and Goten when they were kids. Even before they trained in the rosat. Just by watching episodes with Pan, and then episodes with Goten, and Trunks, she doesn't seem to be on par with them, of course I don't have any proof if she's really stronger than them or not. I'm just going by visuals and my own opinion.
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-Androids typed like 17 and 18 can get stronger if they can give birth then its normal that they can become stronger
No. The unic form that android get stronger is Dr. Gero insert power with a machine in 18 ass.

Pan would be at Raditz power level.
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Pan is far above Freeza.
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Pan is far above Freeza.
Don't make me laught. Freeza first form can destroy a planet. In his second form he damage the planet with his ki. In his final form (50%) he cup the planet in the middle with a little beam...... Pan is nothing compared with Freeza.
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Default Re: How strong was Pan?

A little note; it's impossible for Androids to suppress their power, they're machines.
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A little note; it's impossible for Androids to suppress their power, they're machines.
I agree. they canNOT suppress power or increase their power (with Training).
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I agree. they canNOT suppress power or increase their power (with Training).
I agree Pan cant even compete with first form freezaa

Frezzaa>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>pan
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I agree Pan cant even compete with first form freezaa

Frezzaa>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>pan
Then you'd -removed- because Pan beats up Android 20.
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Default Re: How strong was Pan?

It would help if somebody would actually list all the fights Pan was in, so we could get an accurate idea of what's going on, instead of just blindly arguing.

I only have a handful of the DVDs, and Pan doesn't do much fighting in any of them, so I don't know who she fought or when.
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Default Re: How strong was Pan?

Obviously it's hard to say exactly. But she did kick Android 20, then put him in a hold he couldn't get out of. He even commented on how strong she was. So I'm thinking she could have beaten him pretty easily, which would put her around SSJ Vegeta(android saga) power, which in turn would make her stronger then Frieza. But whatever, Pan sucked anyway lol.
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I put Pan around Third Form Frieza maybe lower.
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