How strong was Pan? - Page 19

Cyrax · 05-31-2008

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Originally Posted by The Green Dragon

Cyrax, do me a favour and read the thread. I already had to repeat myself a dozen times to Remix.

Just to prove i'm not avoiding showing the evidence for some reason, here is a summary.

The only reason anyone would dismiss that is if they were sexist towards young girls, obviously, like Remix.

About this:

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Originally Posted by The Green Dragon

Pan is the daughter of the half saiyan Sangohan, and grandaughter of the full saiyan Sangoku, the legendary Saiyan hero. Not only is she the daughter of Sangohan, she is also the daughter of Chou Gohan (Gohan after his latent power up from the Elder Kai, of which his base form replaces his Ssj form). This may be an explanation as to why Pan cannot transform into a Super Saiyan, since her father's genes no longer allow it. Other reasons she cannot become a Super Saiyan is becaus the Ssj gene is male dominant, like colourblindness, and she is less than 1/2 Saiyan... a 1/4 Saiyan's blood is too diluted to become a Super Saiyan if she is a female. Her grandchild was apparently able to tap into the transformation, but the blood is less likely to become too diluted if the Saiyan is male. Pan has done 4 main things over the course of events, at the age of 4 she beat her 17 year old uncle Sangoten in the Budokai, she managed to hold off Dr Gero for some time, she managed to send General Rildo (who was stated to have a PL over Majin Buu's) flying with a kick, and she managed to survive death from inside Naturon Shenron. Pan, being 1/4 Saiyan, also recieves a Zenkai everytime she gets badly injured and recovers... this means she recovers to become much stronger than she was before. Considering she was stronger than Goten when she was 4, and she got beaten up fairly often throughout all of DBGT, then Pan could be classed as quite a warrior.

First, You can said that Pan is super stronger because she is Gohan daughter. Because Goku became SSJ4 being the son of bardock (pL: 15.000).
Second, I saw Gohan transformed in SSJ in "Baby saga".
Then, She beat Goten because Goten was using a parcel of his power because they where fighting in a turnament. thats is obliously.
At last. If you consider the kick in Rildo face like a prove of power. this is very sad.

apocalypse1280 · 05-31-2008

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Originally Posted by Evil Vegeta

There's no such thing as filler in this section.

Quoted for truth.

apocalypse1280 · 05-31-2008

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Originally Posted by The Green Dragon

Anyway Pan appeared in the manga.

So very true. Don't waste your time man. You can't debate and convince people who don't know a lot about DB/Z/GT and try to debate it.

apocalypse1280 · 05-31-2008

Let me ask you a question "Cyrax": Does the fact that Pan overpowered Gero/Android 20 with absolute ease, and there was absolutely nothing Gero could do, matter at all to you? He even commented on her strength and the fact he couldn't even budge. Like seriously, that means nothing to you?

Evil Vegeta · 05-31-2008

The fact that people say she doesn't have the power to become a SSJ is funny in itself. She wasn't a SSJ because she just wasn't, period. Those who say she's weaker then 100% Freeza can't explain what someone with that level of power would do that could be considered "worthy" in the GT series.

No way is she in the thousands power range. It's utterly stupid, no matter what anyone thinks.

NarutoFan · 05-31-2008

I find it rather difficult to have a sensible debate in this section of the forums. This is due to the fact you are able to use uncanon events to nullify canon events (i.e. Pan never fought Goten in the manga, but did so in the anime, so it can be used to favor Pan's side of the debate). It really gets annoying.

Remixxx · 05-31-2008

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Originally Posted by Evil Vegeta

The fact that people say she doesn't have the power to become a SSJ is funny in itself. She wasn't a SSJ because she just wasn't, period. Those who say she's weaker then 100% Freeza can't explain what someone with that level of power would do that could be considered "worthy" in the GT series.

No way is she in the thousands power range. It's utterly stupid, no matter what anyone thinks.

She wasnt A SSJ because she didnt have the power to do it s the most logical explanation and everybody knows that going by the fact that vegeta jr was abel to transform into one.And there is no theory like cant transform because she is a girl thats just assuming without proof.

Evil Vegeta · 05-31-2008

It still doesn't mean she's weaker then 100% Freeza, and there was never a female shown to be a SSJ. So, that can be used.

Remixxx · 05-31-2008

Still that cant be backed up with anything but the logic not having enough power can.

Evil Vegeta · 05-31-2008

Actually, a female never being shown as a SSJ can be backed up, since it was never shown or implied that one can be a SSJ. You're either a SSJ or you're not a SSJ; Pan's not a SSJ, but it doesn't mean she's weaker then Freeza.

SSJ4 Vegito · 05-31-2008

Also she doesn't "Automatically" get the SSJ gene since Mystic Gohan conceived her so she'd have to do it the Old fashioned way. She'd have to be unbelievably Pissed (Like Goku, Future Trunks, Vegeta or Gohan were).

Cyrax · 05-31-2008

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Originally Posted by apocalypse1280

Let me ask you a question "Cyrax": Does the fact that Pan overpowered Gero/Android 20 with absolute ease, and there was absolutely nothing Gero could do, matter at all to you? He even commented on her strength and the fact he couldn't even budge. Like seriously, that means nothing to you?

You should be banned for a triple post.

Jay · 05-31-2008

Obviously it doesn't

apocalypse1280 · 05-31-2008

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Originally Posted by Cyrax

You should be banned for a triple post.

So you avoid the question. Not very clever, but typical.

Remixxx · 05-31-2008

Freeza 100%>>>>>#20

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NarutoFan Naruto Ranked (19) Sanbi Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 1,091 Blog Entries: 1 Rep Power: 21	Re: How strong was Pan? I find it rather difficult to have a sensible debate in this section of the forums. This is due to the fact you are able to use uncanon events to nullify canon events (i.e. Pan never fought Goten in the manga, but did so in the anime, so it can be used to favor Pan's side of the debate). It really gets annoying.

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Remixxx (24) Super Saiyan 4 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Planet Neptune Posts: 3,458 Rep Power: 70	Re: How strong was Pan? Still that cant be backed up with anything but the logic not having enough power can. __________________

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SSJ4 Vegito (26) Great Elder of Namek Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 4,482 Rep Power: 138	Re: How strong was Pan? Also she doesn't "Automatically" get the SSJ gene since Mystic Gohan conceived her so she'd have to do it the Old fashioned way. She'd have to be unbelievably Pissed (Like Goku, Future Trunks, Vegeta or Gohan were).

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Remixxx (24) Super Saiyan 4 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Planet Neptune Posts: 3,458 Rep Power: 70	Re: How strong was Pan? Freeza 100%>>>>>#20 __________________