Jay

You can't type. And you also didn't answer my question.

Anyway, yeah if it happened in the Non-Canon Universe then it happened. If it was in a Martial Arts tournament then the rules were fair, if it was just training then it doesn't count because there aren't rules.

DBZ Filler and DBGT are in the same universe, the sooner you accept this then the better.

Sexist people will ignore this scene entirely because it works towards Pan's favour.

She's Gohan's daughter, and she was concieved after Gohan's latent power up.

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SSJBulma

Shows how powerful she is then, that she can beat him without getting steamed up. ^_^

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Remixxx

Again DBZ fillers is not the same as GT accept it...If the fight happend in GT I WOULD ACCEPT IT BUT BECAUSE IT DIDNT so I WONT

And once again Yamcha BEAT UP olibu and another guy easilly trainin or not he destroyed the shit out of the,so it makes yamcha stronger then cell now???you see it doesnt make sense since its A FILLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEERRRRRRRRRRRR RRRRRRRRRRRRRR

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Alright then, I guess your way sucks. We'll do it mine.

Pan can't turn Ssj because the Ssj gene is male dominant like colourblindness, and she's less than 1/2 saiyan, so she is unable to tap into the Ssj gene, doesn't mean she is weak.


In fact, I might do a summary of this entire thread, about what Pan is.


Pan is the daughter of the half saiyan Sangohan, and grandaughter of the full saiyan Sangoku, the legendary Saiyan hero. Not only is she the daughter of Sangohan, she is also the daughter of Chou Gohan (Gohan after his latent power up from the Elder Kai, of which his base form replaces his Ssj form). This may be an explanation as to why Pan cannot transform into a Super Saiyan, since her father's genes no longer allow it. Other reasons she cannot become a Super Saiyan is becaus the Ssj gene is male dominant, like colourblindness, and she is less than 1/2 Saiyan... a 1/4 Saiyan's blood is too diluted to become a Super Saiyan if she is a female. Her grandchild was apparently able to tap into the transformation, but the blood is less likely to become too diluted if the Saiyan is male. Pan has done 4 main things over the course of events, at the age of 4 she beat her 17 year old uncle Sangoten in the Budokai, she managed to hold off Dr Gero for some time, she managed to send General Rildo (who was stated to have a PL over Majin Buu's) flying with a kick, and she managed to survive death from inside Naturon Shenron.

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You know I wouldn't really categorise around 10,000,000 as weak.

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Remixxx

You forgott one thing why she cant turn SSJ...THAT BECAUSE SHE IS NOT STRONG ENOUGH and that was backed up by VEGETA JR. BEING ABEL TO TURN SSJ

-AND WHO SAID THAT SHE BEAT UP GOTEN THEY JUST SHOWED US A PIC OF THE FIGHT MAYBE GOTEN BEATED HER

-AND AGAIN ITS A FILLER SO IT DOESNT COUNT..AND GT CANT COUNT AS A FILLER SINCE ITS HIS OWN UNIVERSE WITHOUT A MAMNGA.PERIOD

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Jay

Right, sure The thoughts of a true sexist.

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Remixxx

IM NOT SEXIST I LIKE ALL DRAGON BALL GIRLS EVEN PAN.

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SSJBulma

When you say Legendary Super Saiyan do you mean Goku being a legenary hero...or do you think he is THE Legendary Super Saiyan?

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Jay

Actually, in the Un Canon universe I guess Broly is the Legendary Super Saiyan. Since DBZ Filler (movies) and DBGT are all in the same universe.

So I guess I meant Goku is just a legendary hero.


Remix, do you deny that DBZ Movies and DBGT are in the same universe?

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Remixxx

No they are not in the same universe.......gt is its own universe..Period

Freeza 100%>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Pan

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Jay

So I guess nothing that happened in DBZ at all means anything in your dillusional DBGT universe.

So the first time Goku turned Super Saiyan in GT was in GT right? And not DBZ because the battle of Namek against Frieza never took place because DBZ and DBGT are in two different universes right?

Pan > Goten > Frieza > Tien.

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SSJBulma

I think the movies don't help anyone when arguing over who is strongest IMO.
Still stick by Pan being strong enough to beat down Freeza.

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Jay

I suppose, but it was an attempt to try and convince Remix that DBZ Movies and DBGT exist in the same Un-Canon universe.

Such as Cooler being escaped from hell in the Super 17 saga, obviously Remix will ignore that.


Just thought i'll make an update on the Pan summary.

Pan is the daughter of the half saiyan Sangohan, and grandaughter of the full saiyan Sangoku, the legendary Saiyan hero. Not only is she the daughter of Sangohan, she is also the daughter of Chou Gohan (Gohan after his latent power up from the Elder Kai, of which his base form replaces his Ssj form). This may be an explanation as to why Pan cannot transform into a Super Saiyan, since her father's genes no longer allow it. Other reasons she cannot become a Super Saiyan is becaus the Ssj gene is male dominant, like colourblindness, and she is less than 1/2 Saiyan... a 1/4 Saiyan's blood is too diluted to become a Super Saiyan if she is a female. Her grandchild was apparently able to tap into the transformation, but the blood is less likely to become too diluted if the Saiyan is male. Pan has done 4 main things over the course of events, at the age of 4 she beat her 17 year old uncle Sangoten in the Budokai, she managed to hold off Dr Gero for some time, she managed to send General Rildo (who was stated to have a PL over Majin Buu's) flying with a kick, and she managed to survive death from inside Naturon Shenron. Pan, being 1/4 Saiyan, also recieves a Zenkai everytime she gets badly injured and recovers... this means she recovers to become much stronger than she was before. Considering she was stronger than Goten when she was 4, and she got beaten up fairly often throughout all of DBGT, then Pan could be classed as quite a warrior.

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