How strong was Pan? - Page 15

The Green Dragon · 05-30-2008

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Originally Posted by remixremix

It was a DBZ filler not a GT filler if it happend in GT then it wouldnt be one

All of DBGT is DBZ filler.

I wanted to have "DBGT Filler" for DBGT with the Goku jr and Vegeta jr scene, but you were against that. You insisted that Pan couldn't turn Ssj even though her grandchild could, I wanted to ignore it, but you insisted on the filler argument. So, we'll do it your way.

All of DBGT is DBZ filler.

Pan (aged 4) > Goten (end of Z)

SSJBulma · 05-30-2008

Filler doesn't diminish the fact that she beat him(Goten) and he obviously looked worse for wear when she did.

gkrt · 05-30-2008

It's filler and doesn't count. You can't say that Pan is stronger than Goten when she is 5 and he is about 17 and has had loads more experience than Pan in fighting. Did I mention it was filler?

The Green Dragon · 05-30-2008

If we are talking about DBGT, which is DBZ Filler, then Pan defiantly beat her uncle when she was only 4 years old. Only a sexist would disagree with that.

Now she'll be stronger than that in DBGT itself.

Remember, Pan is the daughter of Gohan after his latent power up. And as seen at the end of DBZ (Remember, DBGT is one big filler. If we dismiss fillers, we dismiss all of DBGT right now) she beat her uncle when she was only 4.

Anime, plus movies and filler.

remixremix · 05-30-2008

DBZ is its own universe with its own Fillers
DBGT is its own universe and is a completlly filler
I WAS JUST trying to say that the fight is a DBZ filler since it happend in DBZ and not in GT if it happnend in Gt then i would say that she is.

The Green Dragon · 05-30-2008

There are two DB universes, the canon one and the un-canon one.

Canon Universe = Just the manga

Un-Canon Universe = DB, DBZ, DBGT animes, plus all movies and fillers.

This section talks about the Un-Canon Universe, while the DBZ section focuses more on the Canon Universe.

Basically, if the scene didn't appear in the manga, it's relevant to DBGT. Simple as.

gkrt · 05-30-2008

You are also dismissing the fact that Z's filler and the whole of GT has massive plotholes. There is no WAY that Pan could beat Goten.

The Green Dragon · 05-30-2008

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Originally Posted by gkrt

You are also dismissing the fact that Z's filler and the whole of GT has massive plotholes. There is no WAY that Pan could beat Goten.

Of course, DBGT itself has dozens of plotholes. It doesn't mean you can pick and choose what's right and wrong, if it happens then it happens... you haven't got the right to pick and choose like that.

In the Un-Canon universe, Pan beat Goten when she was 4, plotholes aside... it happened, you've gotta face it.

If i'm not allowed to dismiss the Goku Jr Vs Vegeta Jr scene, you guys aren't allowed to dismiss Pan beating Goten when she was 4.

If DBGT is one, big DBZ Toei filler, then only a sexist would dismiss Pan beating Goten when she was 4.

remixremix · 05-30-2008

Again no its a DBZ filler so it doesnt count.....If it happend in gt then i would accept it ....

-do you accept the fact that yamcha is stronger or equal to pikon?

The Green Dragon · 05-30-2008

Sexist!

DBGT is one, big Toei DBZ filler.

It's all in the Un-Canon universe, none of it was in the manga, it happened in the Un-Canon universe.

remixremix · 05-30-2008

It still not the same....Dbz filler is its own universe and DBGT its own.

do you accept the fact that yamcha is stronger or equal to pikon?

The Green Dragon · 05-30-2008

Quote:

Originally Posted by remixremix

It still not the same....Dbz filler is its own universe and DBGT its own.

do you accept the fact that yamcha is stronger or equal to pikon?

Was that scene in a martial arts tournament like Goten and Pan? (considering people don't use their full power in a martial arts tournament unless they have to).

remixremix · 05-30-2008

He still beat Olibu as easilly without even trying and another guy with him so does it makes him stronger then pikon or even cell??????????????????????

You see its a filler so it doesnt count.GT is it own universe so it counts only for stuff that happend in GT

SSJBulma · 05-30-2008

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Originally Posted by gkrt

You are also dismissing the fact that Z's filler and the whole of GT has massive plotholes. There is no WAY that Pan could beat Goten.

Kid Gohan versus Raditz.

gkrt · 05-30-2008

Gohan became enraged unleashing he's full potential. I didn't see that when Pan was fighting Goten.

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The Green Dragon (24) Super Saiyan 4 Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Lloegr Posts: 3,182 Blog Entries: 2 Rep Power: 117	Re: How strong was Pan? If we are talking about DBGT, which is DBZ Filler, then Pan defiantly beat her uncle when she was only 4 years old. Only a sexist would disagree with that. Now she'll be stronger than that in DBGT itself. Remember, Pan is the daughter of Gohan after his latent power up. And as seen at the end of DBZ (Remember, DBGT is one big filler. If we dismiss fillers, we dismiss all of DBGT right now) she beat her uncle when she was only 4. Anime, plus movies and filler. __________________ "TGD" "*One time this ciggy lolligagger dicked on my snatch.* Un amsera hon ffagod butain dicked acha 'm snatch." [MFG Reputation Guide for Beginners]\|[-ORLY?-]\|[-YA RLY!-]\|[Lolage]

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remixremix (24) Super Saiyan 4 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Planet Neptune Posts: 3,221 Rep Power: 47	Re: How strong was Pan? DBZ is its own universe with its own Fillers DBGT is its own universe and is a completlly filler I WAS JUST trying to say that the fight is a DBZ filler since it happend in DBZ and not in GT if it happnend in Gt then i would say that she is. __________________

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The Green Dragon (24) Super Saiyan 4 Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Lloegr Posts: 3,182 Blog Entries: 2 Rep Power: 117	Re: How strong was Pan? There are two DB universes, the canon one and the un-canon one. Canon Universe = Just the manga Un-Canon Universe = DB, DBZ, DBGT animes, plus all movies and fillers. This section talks about the Un-Canon Universe, while the DBZ section focuses more on the Canon Universe. Basically, if the scene didn't appear in the manga, it's relevant to DBGT. Simple as. __________________ "TGD" "*One time this ciggy lolligagger dicked on my snatch.* Un amsera hon ffagod butain dicked acha 'm snatch." [MFG Reputation Guide for Beginners]\|[-ORLY?-]\|[-YA RLY!-]\|[Lolage]

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gkrt (22) Super Saiyan 3 Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Under your bed. Posts: 2,076 Blog Entries: 2 Rep Power: 46	Re: How strong was Pan? You are also dismissing the fact that Z's filler and the whole of GT has massive plotholes. There is no WAY that Pan could beat Goten. __________________

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remixremix (24) Super Saiyan 4 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Planet Neptune Posts: 3,221 Rep Power: 47	Re: How strong was Pan? Again no its a DBZ filler so it doesnt count.....If it happend in gt then i would accept it .... -do you accept the fact that yamcha is stronger or equal to pikon? __________________

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The Green Dragon (24) Super Saiyan 4 Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Lloegr Posts: 3,182 Blog Entries: 2 Rep Power: 117	Re: How strong was Pan? Sexist! DBGT is one, big Toei DBZ filler. It's all in the Un-Canon universe, none of it was in the manga, it happened in the Un-Canon universe. __________________ "TGD" "*One time this ciggy lolligagger dicked on my snatch.* Un amsera hon ffagod butain dicked acha 'm snatch." [MFG Reputation Guide for Beginners]\|[-ORLY?-]\|[-YA RLY!-]\|[Lolage]

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gkrt (22) Super Saiyan 3 Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Under your bed. Posts: 2,076 Blog Entries: 2 Rep Power: 46	Re: How strong was Pan? Gohan became enraged unleashing he's full potential. I didn't see that when Pan was fighting Goten. __________________