SuperTien

If things made more sense I would see that to be very close to truth of logic. unfortunatily logic does not have to much space to breath in dragonball. It's a fantasy world that is for entertainment.Akira and Toei do what they want

Anyways Goten and Trunks , if things made more sense, Shouldn't become super saiyans so fast and be so powerful at the end of z at young age. If even being 1/4 saiyan. they can do it Pan can do is

Talking about Vegeta jr and Goku jr, isn't this a GT forum and doesn't have to be canon dbz?

Tien being in the millions there's really no way to say it's impossible or possible. Completly opinonated like all Levels not stated in the Manga.

The only thing that could be gaged from dbz in GT is Gero really.

But like alot of things, GT can make the characters seem weak because they didnt train and also they tried to make it more dragonball like, later on in dragon saga and super 17 it was more dbz like. SO there powers seemed different with the things that where causing them problems such as lowly alines and the such.

There powers could increase throughout gt, that could make sense.

They orginally planned to take Goten , not Pan, Doest that mean the strongest where going to go? Probably not.

Do you think vegeta and Gohan where still the strongest fighters after goku? Probably, but They planned to take Goten and Trunks so they could Fuse into Gotenks, who apparently was stronger than Vegeta and Gohan's help.

Seeing they they didnt die on their trip without Goten, Pan must be very powerful. A powerlevel around freeza to the androids must have been sufficent.

Remixxx

I still dont see her anywhere close to freezas 100%

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TobiGoodBoy

I see her at about 10,000,000. Maybe even that's too high.

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deckzone30000

stronger than freiza i think

SSJBulma

I say she is stronger than Freeza.

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Jay

If all the sexist members of this board who put the daughter of Sangohan weaker than Frieza, Nappa, or even Yamcha at one point, claim that she always get's beaten up in GT. Then their sexist attitude is ignoring her Zenkai ability to recover.

Every time getting beaten up makes a Saiyan recover much stronger + Pan gets beaten up alot = Anti-Pan members are sexist.

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TobiGoodBoy

I don't hate Pan I jsut don't really care about her at all. I find her boring. Still she is weaker than 100% Frieza.

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Remixxx

I like you are you a girl?

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Jay

No i'm not, bugger off.

Same, she's one of my least favorite characters... I can't stand her. She single handedly ruined GT.

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SSJBulma

I'm not being biased because she's a girl. I honestly think that she's got the ability to beat Freeza alone. Bra I don't think so, mainly because I don't always agree that PL means you're the victor. Bra wouldn't be 'skilled enough' to beat Freeza. Pan definately is.
Didn't Chibi Pan beat Goten in the Budokai?

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Jay

Exactly!

But sexist people who hate Pan because she's a girl tend to ignore that victory, or claim that Goten was "holding back" on her (a last minute resort that all people who are 'wrong' pull).

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Remixxx

I could swear that you are a girl.....but whatever uhh yes yes he was why would he beat up his niece and that was a DBZ filler

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TobiGoodBoy

Filler

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Jay

Why, because i'm not discriminating against a girl, that makes me a girl?

And no, Pan was 4 and she beat Goten.

Anyway all of DBGT is filler, and you claimed we had to consider the Goku Jr Vs Vegeta Jr battle fair and square because all of DBGT is filler.

He would beat up his neice because they were in a martial arts tournament, that's what you... erm, DO in a martial arts tournament.

Pan beat Goten when she was 4, fair and square.

IF you ignore that, you've gotta be sexist.

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Remixxx

It was a DBZ filler not a GT filler if it happend in GT then it wouldnt be one

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