How strong was Pan? - Page 13

Jay · 05-29-2008

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Originally Posted by Evil Vegeta

Didn't you just say Pan is around Freeza's third form power? Now she's weaker then his second form.

Remixremix changes his mind all the time.

Just a few weeks ago he claimed Pan was stronger than Frieza 100%, now recently he was fighting for her being weaker than Frieza's 3rd form, and now he's saying she's weaker than Frieza's 2nd form, with no proof.

Maybe he just really, really hates Pan.

I hate Goku, I think i'll give him a PL of 6,000.

Remixxx · 05-29-2008

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Originally Posted by Evil Vegeta

Pan not being able to go SSJ, and Vegeta being able to go SSJ is similar to why Gohan doesn't have his ultimate power anymore. It just makes no kind of sense. There's nothin that says Pan lacks the power to become one, so that's not 100% either.

Then we just have to take it how it is....gohan without being mystic and pan not being abel to turn SSj since she s not strong enough and VEGETA JR being abel to turn ssj since he is strong enough thats how it goes.

Remixxx · 05-29-2008

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Originally Posted by The Green Dragon

Remixremix changes his mind all the time.

Just a few weeks ago he claimed Pan was stronger than Frieza 100%, now recently he was fighting for her being weaker than Frieza's 3rd form, and now he's saying she's weaker than Frieza's 2nd form, with no proof.

Maybe he just really, really hates Pan.

I hate Goku, I think i'll give him a PL of 6,000.

I just realize some things that couldnt make her stronger then freeza 100%

Jay · 05-29-2008

Realistically speaking, Goku Jr and Vegeta Jr are practically human with very little Saiyan influences.

Which, also means, their Zenkai is much, much, much lower than Pans.

Also, since we are considering the Goku Jr Vs Vegeta Jr scene as real all of a sudden... then I guess we are supporting that the Ssj gene is male dominant. Like, colourblindness.

Sorry for the real life example, but it illustrates my point more clearly.

Remixxx · 05-29-2008

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Originally Posted by The Green Dragon

Realistically speaking, Goku Jr and Vegeta Jr are practically human with very little Saiyan influences.

Which, also means, their Zenkai is much, much, much lower than Pans.

Yeah right

Jay · 05-29-2008

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Originally Posted by remixremix

Yeah right

It's generally true.

Pan's Zenkai would make her stronger every time she got "beaten up all the time".

Remixxx · 05-29-2008

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Originally Posted by The Green Dragon

It's generally true.

Pan's Zenkai would make her stronger every time she got "beaten up all the time".

Uh not since the zenkais doenst exist in GT and even if they do they probbaly didnt give her a big increase in power going thats she wasnt abel to turn SSJ then by how she was getting beaten by every minor villain and major villain and DINDT DO A THING IN THE WHOLE SHOW.

Jay · 05-29-2008

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Originally Posted by remixremix

Uh not since the zenkais doenst exist in GT and even if they do they probbaly didnt give her a big increase in power going thats she wasnt abel to turn SSJ then by how she was getting beaten by every minor villain and major villain and DINDT DO A THING IN THE WHOLE SHOW.

I'm not going to repeat my posts anymore, but I already explained all of that and why it's wrong.

Remixxx · 05-29-2008

No you did not you cant say that its wrong since it doesnt go into your side of the argument

Evil Vegeta · 05-29-2008

Those GT villains were about a 1000x Freeza's 100% power when it all comes down to it. How exactly could pan's thrashings be used to conclude she's weaker then Freeza, again?

Remixxx · 05-29-2008

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Originally Posted by Evil Vegeta

Those GT villains were about a 1000x Freeza's 100% power when it all comes down to it. How exactly could pan's thrashings be used to conclude she's weaker then Freeza, again?

even minor villains beat her...the magic guy did it..then the sand moster did it too and so on.....

Evil Vegeta · 05-29-2008

Do you think they're weaker then Freeza?

Remixxx · 05-29-2008

Yes i do especially the sand mosters then the magic guy and so on...

SSJ4 Vegito · 05-29-2008

There are plenty of theories to support her not being a Super Saiyan. First off She was conceived while Gohan had his Latent power up therefore she doesn't get the same benefits as Goten & Trunks supposedly did. It could be harder for girls, plus Goku Jr. & Vegeta Jr. where conceived by people who were all supposedly Super Saiyans, so that could explain why. Perhaps Pan could just simply require extreme rage like Goku had in the Freiza Saga or Trunks in the Movie special. Now yes the Sand monster thing was weird but Pan was defensless due to the heat (Sort of like how Goku used to become weak while he was hungry).
We don't know, but we do know that she survived a blow from one of those robots (Sigma force) who combined were able to hurt Goku a little bit, so if so really that's a fairly impressive feat to me. Also considering how she survived an energy blast from SSJ Goten right when the possessed Gohan & Goten blasted the house to bits and sent Ki beams after Goku & Pan, Pan was hit by that and she survived. So she's not nearly as weak as 100% Freiza but I wouldn't place her much stronger than Android 16.

Cyrax · 05-30-2008

This thread is full of bullshit. thanks to "Green Dragon" and others members.
The proof that Pan is stronger than Freeza (100%) is because Pan kick Rildo (one of the worce characters in GT) in the face

Pathetic. Compare this unnecesary GT character with Freeza (One of the best enemies in all Dragon Ball Z).
Nail >>>>>>>>> Pan

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SSJ4 Vegito (26) Great Elder of Namek Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 4,482 Rep Power: 138	Re: How strong was Pan? There are plenty of theories to support her not being a Super Saiyan. First off She was conceived while Gohan had his Latent power up therefore she doesn't get the same benefits as Goten & Trunks supposedly did. It could be harder for girls, plus Goku Jr. & Vegeta Jr. where conceived by people who were all supposedly Super Saiyans, so that could explain why. Perhaps Pan could just simply require extreme rage like Goku had in the Freiza Saga or Trunks in the Movie special. Now yes the Sand monster thing was weird but Pan was defensless due to the heat (Sort of like how Goku used to become weak while he was hungry). We don't know, but we do know that she survived a blow from one of those robots (Sigma force) who combined were able to hurt Goku a little bit, so if so really that's a fairly impressive feat to me. Also considering how she survived an energy blast from SSJ Goten right when the possessed Gohan & Goten blasted the house to bits and sent Ki beams after Goku & Pan, Pan was hit by that and she survived. So she's not nearly as weak as 100% Freiza but I wouldn't place her much stronger than Android 16.

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Cyrax (20) Super Saiyan 2 Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Argentina Posts: 1,490 Rep Power: 14	Re: How strong was Pan? This thread is full of bullshit. thanks to "Green Dragon" and others members. The proof that Pan is stronger than Freeza (100%) is because Pan kick Rildo (one of the worce characters in GT) in the face Pathetic. Compare this unnecesary GT character with Freeza (One of the best enemies in all Dragon Ball Z). Nail >>>>>>>>> Pan __________________