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Old 05-29-2008   #166 (permalink)
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Nope, you haven't... not really. I go by the Daizenshuu. =D

And also I proved that Pan > Frieza > Tien so it's all good.
You are just halucinating....Vegeta jr(1/16) of a SSJ...Pan 1/4 of a SSJ not a SSJ...There you have the answr she s not even close to have the power to transform into a SSJ
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You are just halucinating....Vegeta jr(1/16) of a SSJ...Pan 1/4 of a SSJ not a SSJ...There you have the answr she s not even close to have the power to transform into a SSJ
You've gotta to love GT's contradictions...
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Remixremix is sexist.
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It just proves that VEGETA JR. had the power to transform into a SSJ and Pan didnt thats all and he is a 1/16 of a SSJ.So with this also she cant be stronger then Frezza 100%
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No i do since i gave proofs and he didnt
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Your proof actually worked in my favour

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It just proves that VEGETA JR. had the power to transform into a SSJ and Pan didnt thats all and he is a 1/16 of a SSJ.So with this also she cant be stronger then Frezza 100%
That scene was never to be taken seriously, its impossible. 1/16 diluted saiyan blood and they were children. No one should ever take that scene seriously.

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Default Re: How strong was Pan?

tbf remix, you never provide proof for anything you say...

Green Dragon on the other hand has been backing up his points since post 1.
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I still don't understand how her being a non-SSJ makes her weaker then 100% Freeza?
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That scene was never to be taken seriously, its impossible. 1/16 diluted saiyan blood and they were children. No one should ever take that scene seriously.
Although I do not believe Pan is weaker than Freeza, you cannot disregard a scene because it does not go in your favor (not that it goes in his favor) in a debate. This is the GT forums, almost everything that occurred in the series is impossible in canon.
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That scene was never to be taken seriously, its impossible. 1/16 diluted saiyan blood and they were children. No one should ever take that scene seriously.



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Yes it can be taken serious since its made by Toei and PAN IS MADE BY TOEI TOO.....so its a 100% proof that she is not powerfull enough to turn SSJ

Vegeta jr. is like 1/16 or 1/10 of a SSJ and had the power to transform and Pan is like 1/4 of a SSJ and cant turn into one.So its obvious that she is not strong at all.

Frezza 100% >>>frezzas 50%>>>>frezas second form>pan
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I still don't understand how her being a non-SSJ makes her weaker then 100% Freeza?
Me neither, but sexist people seem to think so.

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Although I do not believe Pan is weaker than Freeza, you cannot disregard a scene because it does not go in your favor in a debate. This is the GT forums, almost everything that occurred in the series is impossible in canon.
If people really want to consider that scene then there is another option. Female saiyans cannot transform into Super Saiyans. This includes Bulla and Pan. GT is always a touchy subject due to it's un-realism to the continuity.

Dismissing the scene could suggest that's its a sort of "filler" filler, and isn't even in the same continuity as the regular DBGT storyline. Who knows, but this method supports the "less than 1/2 saiyan blood cannot transform into Ssj" theory.
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Didn't you just say Pan is around Freeza's third form power? Now she's weaker then his second form.
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Me neither, but sexist people seem to think so.



If people really want to consider that scene then there is another option. Female saiyans cannot transform into Super Saiyans. This includes Bulla and Pan. GT is always a touchy subject due to it's realism to the continuity.
Im not sexist i dont think she s weaker then him because she is a female.......And who said that they cant turn SSJ because they are femals ITS JUST THAT THEY DONT HAVE ENOUG POWER TO DO IT ITS SIMPLE
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Pan not being able to go SSJ, and Vegeta being able to go SSJ is similar to why Gohan doesn't have his ultimate power anymore. It just makes no kind of sense. There's nothin that says Pan lacks the power to become one, so that's not 100% either.
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