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Old 05-29-2008   #136 (permalink)
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Yes, but she doesn't have to be only 30,000 like some believe.
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You said now that Pan can damage Kid Buu.
Be a GT character doesn't mean that she is above Z characters.
I didn't say she has dominance over Kid Buu, that's silly. But yeah she could cause damage to Kid Buu for a second, before the bastard regenerates.

And no, being a GT character doesn't means she's above Z characters. Being the offspring of Chou Gohan and grandaughter of Goku puts her above Z characters.

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And dont skip my post....if you want i can provide a clip that i just watched 2 minutes ago where rildo in base wasnt even scratched by her..so this one goes off too
Ok Remix, provide a clip. I may be wrong, who knows.

But if she is weaker than Frieza, then Rildo won't even flinch.
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MEGAVIDEO - I'm watchin' it

Here is the episode go to the begining..after Rildo in base let her hit him and stood up on his feet after her hit he wasnt even scratched by her hit and that in BASE....And you cant prove that freeza wouldnt be abel to move him from his place
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If Android #16 couldn't make Semi Cell flinch with his punches, then Freeza wouldn't do anything to Rildo, since the difference is far more significant.
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If Android #16 couldn't make Semi Cell flinch with his punches, then Freeza wouldn't do anything to Rildo, since the difference is far more significant.
And the diferent between yakirobe and Ozaru Vegeta is enormous and Yakirobe would able to cut vegeta tail. So...?
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She wouldnt even make him flinch if he didnt let her do it...The only thing that counts is the damage since she wasnt abel to make minimal damage to him shows thats she is not strong at all.....and going by other facts thats she wasnt even abel to to do a thing alone and need the help from the robot proves in one way that she is weaker then freeza 100%

-Evil veegta: Krillin was abel to punch gt goku and to move him from his place and to scratch so does it makes him stronger then Gt base goku?
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The video worked in my favour, before I thought Rildo was similar in PL to Majin Buu and Pan dented him in the face.

The video shows me that Rildo is even stronger than Majin Buu, and Pan sent him flying with a kick. I forgot about that kick.

SO... Rildo let his guard down so that Pan could send him flying? Surely not, why would that make sense? Why would he do that?

Facts: Pan sent Rildo flying with a kick. Goku is suprised, Trunks says to Goku "Well, she is your grandaughter alright".

Theory: The second time, Pan acted on out of control anger towards Trunks being turned into stone, so her attack wasn't focused. Also Rildo was aware of Pan's strength so he increased his defences.
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Krillin & Goku weren't even serious like the Cell battle was. That's not an accurate comparison.

Yaji only sliced Vegeta's tail because he was distraced. Another bad example.
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Krillin & Goku weren't even serious like the Cell battle was. That's not an accurate comparison.

Yaji only sliced Vegeta's tail because he was distraced. Another bad example.
Pan doing nothing against GT enemies is the bad example.
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Pan doing nothing against GT enemies is the bad example.
Sent Rildo flying with a kick.
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The video worked in my favour, before I thought Rildo was similar in PL to Majin Buu and Pan dented him in the face.

The video shows me that Rildo is even stronger than Majin Buu, and Pan sent him flying with a kick. I forgot about that kick.

SO... Rildo let his guard down so that Pan could send him flying? Surely not, why would that make sense? Why would he do that?

Facts: Pan sent Rildo flying with a kick. Goku is suprised, Trunks says to Goku "Well, she is your grandaughter alright".
No it doesnt go in your favor since she didnt even do minimal damage to him and she wasnt even ABEL TO SCRATCH HIM AND THATS IN HIS BASE!!!!!.....and he was only letting her to kick him and he was playing with her...THE ONLY THING THAT COUNTS IS DAMAGE NOTHING MORE.

Pan is probbaly around freeza 3 form max
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No it doesnt go in your favor since she didnt even do minimal damage to him and she wasnt even ABEL TO SCRATCH HIM AND THATS IN HIS BASE!!!!!.....and he was only letting her to kick him and he was playing with her...THE ONLY THING THAT COUNTS IS DAMAGE NOTHING MORE.

Pan is probbaly around freeza 3 form max
Rrriiight, so Rildo allowed Pan to kick him in the distance just for the lulz then?

I'ld call that damage either way.

Also, people who say "but they were holding back" are people who know their wrong and need to find a quick argument fast.
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Rrriiight, so Rildo allowed Pan to kick him in the distance just for the lulz then?

I'ld call that damage either way.
Then its obvious that you are a fanboy of her......Even Picoolo was abel to hit freeza 50% form and move him from his place and piccolo was like 20 times weaker then freeza and another example is the krillin and goku fight where krillin hitted goku and moved him from his place so does it make krillin stronger?...no it doesnt.
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Then its obvious that you are a fanboy of her......Even Picoolo was abel to hit freeza 50% form and move him from his place and piccolo was like 20 times weaker then freeza and another example is the krillin and goku fight where krillin hitted goku and moved him from his place so does it make krillin stronger?...no it doesnt.
Just because I point out someone's realistic power does not make me a fanboy. I hate Pan, I think she's one of the most annoying things that ever happened to Dragonball. But aside all that, i'm not going to ignore her correct power just because I don't like her.

I'm not saying she's stronger than Super Perfect Cell, I never said that, i'm saying she's stronger than Frieza. Just because someone can do some damage to someone doesn't always make them stronger.

Anyway it's not so absurd seeing as you believe Tien was in the millions, a human with no Saiyan blood or Zenkai.



Oh yeah I forgot to include Pan's Zenkais.
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Just because I point out someone's realistic power does not make me a fanboy. I hate Pan, I think she's one of the most annoying things that ever happened to Dragonball. But aside all that,