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Old 04-13-2008   #1 (permalink)
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Default Buu Arc and GT Ratios

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Im gonna make this list, i cant do power levels so this is the next best thing.

Feel free to say what you think should be edited and then i shall do so. So no need for flaming just contribute.

I put a * by ones im not sure about and may need to change.

Buu Arc

Goku - 10
SS1 Goku - 50 (x5)
SS2 Goku - 350 (x7)
SS3 Goku - 1,050 (x3)

Vegeta – 9.5
SS1 Vegeta – 47.5 (x5)
SS2 Vegeta - 333 (x7)
Majin Vegeta – 350


Piccolo - 20

Kid Trunks - 2.1
SS1 Trunks – 10.5 (x5)


Goten - 2
SS1 Goten - 10 (x5)

Adult Gohan – 5.5
SS1 Gohan – 27.5 (x5)
SS2 Gohan - 248 (x9)

Teen Gohan – 6.5
SS1 Gohan – 32.5 (x5)
SS2 Gohan - 325 (x10)

Perfect Cell - 40
Super Perfect Cell - 250

Dabura - 32
Majin Buu - 1,000

Base Gotenks (Pre Rosat) - 200 (2+2x50)


Kid Trunks (Rosat) - 2.3
Goten (Rosat) - 2.2


SS1 Gotenks - 1,100
SS2 Gotenks - 3,300 (x3)
SS3 Gotenks - 6,600 (x2)

Super Buu – 6,000
Gotenks Buu – 12,600

Gohan Buu - 13,500

Mystic Gohan - 7,500

Base Vegito - 5,850 (10+9.5 x3 Rivalry x100)
SS1 Vegito - 29,250 (x5)
SS2 Vegito - 117,000 (x3)
SS3 Vegito - 234,000 (x2)

Kid Buu - 950



GT


Baby Saga


Goku – 1,500
SS1 Goku - 4,500 (x3)
SS2 Goku – 13,500 (x3)
SS3 Goku - 27,000 (x2)


Kid Goku - 1,200
SS1 Kid Goku - 3,600 (x5)
SS2 Kid Goku - 10,800 (x3)
SS3 Kid Goku – 21,600 (x2)

Rildo 1st Form - 1000
Rildo 2nd Form - 3,000
Rildo 3rd Form - 6,000


Uub - 4,000
Majuub - 40,000

Baby Vegeta 1 - 23,000
Baby Vegeta 2 - 35,000
Baby Vegeta 3 - 50,000
Oozaru Baby Vegeta – 500,000


SS4 Goku – 500,000
SS4 Goku (Family Power Up) - 700,000


Super 17 Saga

Vegeta - 700
SS1 Vegeta - 2,800 (x4)
SS2 Vegeta - 11,000 (x4)

Super 17 (No Energy) - 60,000
Super 17 (Full Power) – 680,000


Shadow Dragons Saga

Nouva Shenron – 675,000
Eis Shenron - 675,000
Syn Shenron - 850,000

SS4 Goku (Surpassed Limits) - 1,000,000
SS4 Vegeta - 900,000

Omega Shenron - 3,200,000


SS4 Goku (weakened) – 450,000
SS4 Vegeta (weakened) – 430,000


SS4 Gogeta - 10,600,000 (430,000+430,000x10)

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SS3 Gotenks - 22,000 (x2.5)

Super Buu - 10,000
Too far apart.

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Gotenks Buu - 32,000

Mystic Gohan - 30,000
Way too close.

Other than that I have no issue with the DBZ levels. And the GT levels, well... I never bothered to watch GT seriously, so I can't comment.
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SS4 Goku (Surpassed Limits) - 2,700,000
SS4 Vegeta - 1,700,000

Omega Shenron - 6,000,000

SS4 Goku (weakened) - 280,000
SS4 Vegeta (weakened) - 250,000

SS4 Gogeta - 25,000,000 (250,000+250,000x50)
Do you really think SsJ4 Goku/Vegeta and Omega Shenron were that far apart? They got beaten pretty badly but they weren't getting owned THAT badly. And don't Goku and Vegeta's power levels have to be the same in order to fuse properly? I think the gap between SSJ4's and Omega shenron is way too large in your list, but other than that, it's good.
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I don't like how Kid Goku in GT is stronger than SSJ3 Goku in Z. Also Mystic Gohan is like 25 times stronger than SSJ3 Goku thats a piece too much.
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I don't like how Kid Goku in GT is stronger than SSJ3 Goku in Z. Also Mystic Gohan is like 25 times stronger than SSJ3 Goku thats a piece too much.
Why not? I don't think Gohan was that much stronger lol. That's a bit of a stretch.
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A few things to point out. Mystic Gohan is not over 20 fold stronger than SSJ3 Goku. I'd say 5 to 9 folds at best. Also Vegeta (SSJ4) stated that he's stronger than Syn Shenron. So I would put him below SSJ4 Vegeta. Also I doubt SSJ4 Vegeta and SSJ4 Goku weakened were that much inferior to Omega.
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A few things to point out. Mystic Gohan is not over 20 fold stronger than SSJ3 Goku. I'd say 5 to 9 folds at best. Also Vegeta (SSJ4) stated that he's stronger than Syn Shenron (pre-Dragon Balls absorbed). So I would put him below SSJ4 Goku. Also I doubt SSJ4 Vegeta and SSJ4 Goku weakened were that much inferior to Omega.
Am I right about my corrections?
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Nope. When Omega reverted back to Syn Shneron, Vegeta stated that him (referring to Syn) is a waste of time to fight and so he is superior to Syn. The only valid thing you stated is the (pre Dragonball absorbed part), but then again that's what I said seeing as Syn is NOT Omega.
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My bad! Though Yi Xing Long after loose the Dragon Ball's it is at the same power before he absorbed them thus SSj4 Vegeta is stronger than him in both occasions just like Goku is.
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Alright i edited the ratios, i lowered Gotenks SS2 and SS3 multiplyers which lowered Super Buu, and Gohan so hes only 18x stronger than SS3 Goku now

As for Omega Shenron i got him 3x stronger than Syn Shenron because he did get the power of 6 other Dragons, Nouva and Eis shenron werent too far from SS4 Goku, the other 4 werent that strong though.

And SS4 Goku had to surpass his limits to be stronger than Syn Shenron, is SS4 Vegeta really as strong as SS4 Goku (surpassed limits)?
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And SS4 Goku had to surpass his limits to be stronger than Syn Shenron, is SS4 Vegeta really as strong as SS4 Goku (surpassed limits)?
Yes he is.
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Well he must have grown much stronger since, in GT Kid SS1 Goku was stronger than SS2 Vegeta
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Alright i edited the ratios, i lowered Gotenks SS2 and SS3 multiplyers which lowered Super Buu, and Gohan so hes only 18x stronger than SS3 Goku now

As for Omega Shenron i got him 3x stronger than Syn Shenron because he did get the power of 6 other Dragons, Nouva and Eis shenron werent too far from SS4 Goku, the other 4 werent that strong though.

And SS4 Goku had to surpass his limits to be stronger than Syn Shenron, is SS4 Vegeta really as strong as SS4 Goku (surpassed limits)?
I'd say the following is true; SSJ4 Goku (limits surpassed)>SSJ4 Vegeta>Syn Shenron>SSJ4 Goku. SSJ4 Goku (limits surpassed) managed to fuse with Vegeta (so their powers must have been even at the time). But Goku was slightly weakened because he fought with Omega for a bit before they fused, so had he not been weakened he would have been stronger than SSJ4 Vegeta. But at the same time SSJ4 Goku (with OUT surpassed limits) was weaker than Syn, where as Vegeta stated that he himself is stronger, thus leading to the order of powers I presented.
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I believe SSj4 Vegeta is has powerful as SSj4 Goku (suppressed limits) due Blutz Ray since these ones increase the power like in the case of Bebi.

What your view about SSj4 Goku first power-up? After he received the energy of his sons, Trunks and Pan he stayed forever in that kind of power when turning into SSj4 or just during the battle with Bebi?

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No he isn't. You are probably basing this opinion in the scene where SSj Goku managed to throw Super #17 around the world and Vegeta wasn't capable of hit him though you can notice that Super #17 was just joking with Goku until he start owned him. We have to use logical in here: since Uub w/Majin Buu absorbed is stronger than SSj3 Goku and his hits didn't nothing to Super #17.
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Well im still not 100% about that, Goku has always been stronger and for Vegeta to be stronger as a SS4 just doesnt seem right.
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