Rant about Super Saiyan 4 - Page 2

SaiyajinPerfection · 03-27-2008

GT doesn't just have plotholes, it is a single gigantic plothole. Goku's tail being present is a plothole, because in the canon series, they stated that it was removed, not shrank down.

SSJ4 is pretty dumb, and another plothole in it is Rou Dai Kaioshin knowing that Goku was a Super Saiyan 4 when it had never even existed before Goku achieved it.

apocalypse1280 · 03-27-2008

Dude, he was turned into a kid again, he wasn't shrunken. Biologically he was a child again which would have made his tail reappear.

SRP76 · 03-27-2008

I have a feeling that people would moan and groan about GT no matter what it was.

SaiyajinPerfection · 03-27-2008

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Originally Posted by apocalypse1280

Dude, he was turned into a kid again, he wasn't shrunken. Biologically he was a child again which would have made his tail reappear.

If Goku's body was reverted to the same exact form that was in Dragon Ball (being that he had a tail), that would mean that his PL would be no more then 200 at the most, and he obviously wouldn't have the ability to turn SSj, nevermind SSJ3. So the fact is that Goku's adult body at the time of GT was reverted to a child state, that doesn't mean that the tail is reinstated because it was not part of his adult state at the time he was reverted.

And what about Vegeta? Why does he have tha ability to miraculously regrow his tail when simply being exposed to high concentrations of Bruits waves? That doesn't make any sense.

I could go on about the rediculous plotholes in GT, but I'll spare you

apocalypse1280 · 03-27-2008

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Originally Posted by SaiyajinPerfection

If Goku's body was reverted to the same exact form that was in Dragon Ball (being that he had a tail), that would mean that his PL would be no more then 200 at the most, and he obviously wouldn't have the ability to turn SSj, nevermind SSJ3. So the fact is that Goku's adult body at the time of GT was reverted to a child state, that doesn't mean that the tail is reinstated because it was not part of his adult state at the time he was reverted.

And what about Vegeta? Why does he have tha ability to miraculously regrow his tail when simply being exposed to high concentrations of Bruits waves? That doesn't make any sense.

I could go on about the rediculous plotholes in GT, but I'll spare you

Most if not all "plotholes" can be explained through common sense. In no way am I bashing you either cause seriously, I'm not gonna get into a big thing over a cartoon lol. I just think people find shit to hate GT over. I already explained the Goku thing, but you'll think what you want. Pilaf didn't wish to go back in time, only for him to become a kid again. It did make sense cause his body couldn't even hold SSJ3 for any longer then a minute or two. And whose to say Vegeta's tail couldn't grow back under exposure to massive amounts a Blutz Waves? Which are stronger then the waves from the moon, since they bring on the Golden Oozaru, plus the Earth is bigger then the moon anyway. I mean whatever man, I'm done on this subject. You have the last word, do your thing.

Vegeta · 03-27-2008

I hated SSJ4. Just didn't look right to me. Seemed really weak, too.

Jay · 03-27-2008

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Originally Posted by Kai Hiwatari

I hated SSJ4. Just didn't look right to me. Seemed really weak, too.

Really?

Wow, I must say it's the first time i've heard that.

Senzu_Bean · 03-28-2008

Couldn't find a better place to post this.

Akira Toriyama draw his variant of the Super Saiyan 4 which was an exclusively for the Dragon Box. Here it is: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi..._DragonBox.jpg

But the thing isn't that Goku looks like he is in his child state?

Vegeta · 03-28-2008

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Really?

Wow, I must say it's the first time i've heard that.

It just seemed that all the other SSJ stages could own pretty badly, and SSJ4 always got whooped. I don't know, I just don't like SSJ4.

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Originally Posted by Senzu_Bean

Couldn't find a better place to post this.

Akira Toriyama draw his variant of the Super Saiyan 4 which was an exclusively for the Dragon Box. Here it is: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi..._DragonBox.jpg

But the thing isn't that Goku looks like he is in his child state?

More like a pre-teen phase.

Senzu_Bean · 03-28-2008

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Originally Posted by Kai Hiwatari

It just seemed that all the other SSJ stages could own pretty badly, and SSJ4 always got whooped. I don't know, I just don't like SSJ4.

Probably because how stronger the enemies are. Remember how Goku owned Bebi (before and after he turn into Oozaru) or Yi Xing Long (pre-DB's absorbed). Only Super #17 was too much for him and Yi Xing Long (pos-DB's absorbed).

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Originally Posted by Kai Hiwatari

More like a pre-teen phase.

Could be if the drawing was made after Goku become a child that SSj4 wouldn't return Goku's body to his adult form again and remain as a child?

Vegeta · 03-28-2008

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Originally Posted by Senzu_Bean

Probably because how stronger the enemies are. Remember how Goku owned Bebi (before and after he turn into Oozaru) or Yi Xing Long (pre-DB's absorbed). Only Super #17 was too much for him and Yi Xing Long (pos-DB's absorbed).

Could be if the drawing was made after Goku become a child that SSj4 wouldn't return Goku's body to his adult form again and remain as a child?

Yeah, the stronger enemies, true. Arg. SSJ4 just...grr.

Jay · 03-28-2008

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Originally Posted by Kai Hiwatari

Yeah, the stronger enemies, true. Arg. SSJ4 just...grr.

Repped

Unruly_Saiyajin · 03-28-2008

why'd he get repped for that? It looks to me like he stuttered and then growled at the computer screen...Sounds the like the doings of a werewolf or something.

**Majuub** · 03-28-2008

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What the fuck was up with this peice of shit? Seriously, not to mention the incredibly gay storyline of Goku the egotistical asshole being turned into a fucking kid just so him and Pan could be a tag team of annoying people I want to fucking shoot... Goku then turns Super Saiyan 4 after controlling himself in Golden Oozaru form when he sees Pan cry. If you ask me, that fucking bitch didn't cry enough. She certainly made me cry... with dissapointment.

Anyway far be it to point out the fucking retardness of the fur and how the form wasn't blond, maybe if the fur was golden but fucking red what the fuck? Not even the base Oozaru had red fur, if Super Saiyan had brown fur then maybe it would make sense... maybe golden hair and brown fur? Or black hair and golden fur? NO, because the form fucking sucks. The sheer thought of it being able to own most DBZ canon characters with his stupid grisly sexy voice pisses me off.

Another thing, and this is the major issue... how the fuck does it go back to being an adult when Goku was turned into a kid? What the hell, and it's pretty much the same age as Goku before he got turned into a kid, how fucking convieniant. In theory that makes jack all sense, like it recorded Goku's real age and suddenly made him look that age again when he went Super Saiyan 4... yeah, that's fucking retarded. Almost as retarded as Goku refusing to be turned back into an adult and wanting to stay as a kid in the first place, yet primarily using Super Saiyan 4 as his fighting form for most of the series where he turns into an adult again.

What about if Goku grows up naturally and reaches... about age 18, 20, 25, 30 or maybe older (what with being all alone in the world because his friends and family all either dead or fucking kept alive by artificial machinery, yeah nice one Goku you fucktart) and transforms, the Super Saiyan 4 form will seem to age him about 5, or 10 years then back again... doens't that seem a little lame?

Yeah, someone was on dope when they thought this through.

I always thought the SSJ4 was the coolest and most original and... a lot of F words by the way.

Jay · 03-28-2008

Believe me, it could have been more.

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03-27-2008	#16 (permalink)
SaiyajinPerfection (20) Super Saiyan 2 Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Not where you are Posts: 1,453 Blog Entries: 10 Rep Power: 22	Re: Rant about Super Saiyan 4 GT doesn't just have plotholes, it is a single gigantic plothole. Goku's tail being present is a plothole, because in the canon series, they stated that it was removed, not shrank down. SSJ4 is pretty dumb, and another plothole in it is Rou Dai Kaioshin knowing that Goku was a Super Saiyan 4 when it had never even existed before Goku achieved it. __________________ Formerly the member demonkingpiccolo "Let's put a SMILE on that face!" REP OWED: Madness, Madness, Madness, Madness, Frieza the Tyrant, Madness, Madness, SSJBulma, Madness, Madness, Madness, The Green Dragon, Madness....and...oh wait, did I mention Madness?

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apocalypse1280 (21) Majin Warrior Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Planet Earth, Home Of The Free Posts: 1,561 Rep Power: 42	Re: Rant about Super Saiyan 4 Dude, he was turned into a kid again, he wasn't shrunken. Biologically he was a child again which would have made his tail reappear. Last edited by apocalypse1280; 03-27-2008 at 07:46 AM.

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SRP76 (23) Final Warrior Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 2,341 Blog Entries: 1 Rep Power: 39	Re: Rant about Super Saiyan 4 I have a feeling that people would moan and groan about GT no matter what it was.

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Vegeta (23) Final Warrior Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Planet Vegeta 2.0 Posts: 2,338 Blog Entries: 3 Rep Power: 163	Re: Rant about Super Saiyan 4 I hated SSJ4. Just didn't look right to me. Seemed really weak, too. __________________ DBZ RPG Accepting new entrants! PM Dupe of USSJed for details! If he's not online, PM SSJ Ranulf! Must be active every day, at some point between 10am and 6pm New Zealand Time(+13), and willing to take the RPG seriously. 9 out of 10 MFGers think that Orancello is SSJJason. If you are one of the 1 in 10 that don't, copy this and put it in your sig.

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Senzu_Bean (22) Super Saiyan 3 Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Portugal Posts: 1,963 Rep Power: 11	Re: Rant about Super Saiyan 4 Couldn't find a better place to post this. Akira Toriyama draw his variant of the Super Saiyan 4 which was an exclusively for the Dragon Box. Here it is: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi..._DragonBox.jpg But the thing isn't that Goku looks like he is in his child state?

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Unruly_Saiyajin Naruto Ranked (14) ANBU Commander Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: U.S. Posts: 380 Rep Power: 2	Re: Rant about Super Saiyan 4 why'd he get repped for that? It looks to me like he stuttered and then growled at the computer screen...Sounds the like the doings of a werewolf or something. __________________ P.S. Visit this site for all the anime your heart desires : http://www.animecrazy.net/