Full Blooded Saiyan as a requirement to SSj4? - Page 3

Super Ultimate Gohan · 03-15-2008

Well, if you wanna go that way. Then fine, in GT logic base kid kakarrot > adult super saiyan 3. However according to Z logic thats impossible, because he does not have the Ultimate power up.

Evil Vegeta · 03-15-2008

Don't forget, Base Kid Goku>>>>SSJ4 Goku.

BurningVegeta · 03-15-2008

Time to inflict some damage....

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Originally Posted by Cooler's#1fan

If you read better, you'll see that I didn't actually use the term 'half sayain' anywhere in my posts. Did I say you did, no I don't think I did. Do you have a problem with reading?

Also just for correction, Trunks was a Super Saiyan 1 Grade 3 against Perfect Cell.

Hmm now Trunks powered up once against Cell didn't he. I was using it as an example. When Trunks was in Super Saiyan Grade 2 he had only powered up once.

1. Into the Super Super Saiyan state.
2. Into the Super Saiyan Grade 2 state.

Now I used Bebi as an example as he powered up twice from his 3rd Bebi Vegeta form:

1. Golden Oozaru
2. Golden Oozaru with Blutz wave increase.

It represented the two states of power, I didn't use Trunks Third Grade as Bebi Vegeta didn't have one. Please dude, use some logic, before you try to correct my posts. It gets annoying when people do not so.

And your theory is also pure speculation itself too. I still believe heritage of Vegeta changed when Bebi pocessed him.

I watched: it happened, it was stated. Maying it not a theory at all. That makes it fact my friend. If you cannot understand what I've said ask me to explain it, for what it seems you haven't all.

Facts + Logical explanation >> Speculation. (All the time)

Damage inflicted, BV gains 200 exp

~~Cooler's#1fan~~ · 03-15-2008

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Originally Posted by burningvegeta

Time to inflict some damage....

Damage infliceted, BV gains 200 exp

Get a life, internet discussions don't always have to lead to damage being inflicted and experience points if someone doesn't agree with you.

The fact that none of the half saiyans went Golden Oozaru makes both our points just speculation.

Judging by your style of writing, you seem to be the kind of person that wants to stir up chaos and trouble. I'm mearly here to discuss the specification for Ssj4, so if you want to be a prick then do it to someone else. Savvy?

Vegerotto · 03-15-2008

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Originally Posted by burningvegeta

Time to inflict some damage....

Damage infliceted, BV gains 200 exp

HERO KILL

BV Gains 200 exp and +1 rep power.

Enemy defeated.

By the way, in regards to why Baby Vegeta never went SSJ4, did you ever see him go SSJ1 or 2? He powered up, through absorbing the energy of Goten, Gohan, Trunks and Bulla, but he never actually transformed into any level of Super Saiyan. I would say the same goes for him and SSJ4, true he did achieve Golden Oozaru, but that comes from being exposed to Blutz Waves, not a mental breakthrough that the Super Saiyans levels are.

~~Dark Skywalker~~ · 03-15-2008

i dont see being a full blooded sayian as a requirement

Jay · 03-15-2008

Unfortunatly i'm going to have to disagree with alot of people on here and say that I think that a full blooded saiyan is a requirement.

The Super Saiyan Mutlipiers and Oozaru Mutlipliers mean that you mutliply the PL of the saiyan's form before transformation into a Ssj Great Ape.

This is basically comparing Kid Goku to Super Baby Vegeta Level 2. Super Baby Vegeta Level 2 is far superior. So I believe Ssj Great Ape Baby is vastly superior to say... Ssj Great Ape Kid Goku.

So Baby had the power, and he had the control.

Just my opinion, but if part-saiyans could go Ssj4 then I believe Baby would have.

Super Ultimate Gohan · 03-16-2008

If thats so, then how come Bebi was losing himself in the power of the Great Ape???

1. It was never said by anyone with any knowledge of super saiyan 4, that you had to be a full blooded saiyan.

2. With Bebi losing himself as a Great Oozaru, it means nothing about a full blooded saiyan can only attain super saiyan 4.

3. What vegeta and bulma said means nothing, because they have no knowledge about super saiyan 4.

Only kakarrot knows anything about it. And even if he said only a pure blooded saiyan can attains would mean shit. Because he thought super saiyan was the max until he was in that coma like state from the heart virus.

SSJ5Goku · 03-16-2008

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Originally Posted by The Green Dragon

Unfortunatly i'm going to have to disagree with alot of people on here and say that I think that a full blooded saiyan is a requirement.

The Super Saiyan Mutlipiers and Oozaru Mutlipliers mean that you mutliply the PL of the saiyan's form before transformation into a Ssj Great Ape.

This is basically comparing Kid Goku to Super Baby Vegeta Level 2. Super Baby Vegeta Level 2 is far superior. So I believe Ssj Great Ape Baby is vastly superior to say... Ssj Great Ape Kid Goku.

So Baby had the power, and he had the control.

Just my opinion, but if part-saiyans could go Ssj4 then I believe Baby would have.

I actually believe 1/2 Saiyans can go, but no lower than that. Any lower than 1/2 saiyans can only hope for SSJ3, at best. (According to GT, not daizenshuus, which GT IGNORED.)

But only if they apply themselves to training. Heavy trainings to get SSJ3, and then a crapload of green spectrum radiation. Then, if they can somehow get control of themselves, they might be able to transform into SSJ4.

Gohan, Goten and Trunks, I'm sorry, but you haven't trained long enough. Check back in 50 years of nonstop training, as you have slacked off.

Senzu_Bean · 03-16-2008

Bebi never lost himself in the Great Ape power or did he?

But the thing is if Vegeta and Bulma stated that and nobody said the contrary that is what DBGT creators wanted to us believe since it is a sentence from the creators.

apocalypse1280 · 03-16-2008

Um... neither Vegeta nor Bulma said anything about having to be a full blooded saiyan to attain SSJ4. And while people may think differently, it's safe to say common sense should tell anyone that since Bulma's a scientific genius, her guesstimation would be better then anyone else's.

Super Ultimate Gohan · 03-16-2008

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Originally Posted by Senzu_Bean

Bebi never lost himself in the Great Ape power or did he?

But the thing is if Vegeta and Bulma stated that and nobody said the contrary that is what DBGT creators wanted to us believe since it is a sentence from the creators.

I just watched all the episodes where Bebi is a Super Oozaru. Yea he does, he becomes Insane, which is losing yourself.

BurningVegeta · 03-16-2008

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Originally Posted by Cooler's#1fan

Get a life, internet discussions don't always have to lead to damage being inflicted and experience points if someone doesn't agree with you.

The fact that none of the half saiyans went Golden Oozaru makes both our points just speculation.

Judging by your style of writing, you seem to be the kind of person that wants to stir up chaos and trouble. I'm mearly here to discuss the specification for Ssj4, so if you want to be a prick then do it to someone else. Savvy?

Cooler#1Fan...are you being an idiot on purpose? O_O

Number One, you see how you typed that by moving and your breathing. That equals life my friend.....and I'm doing the same thing. I have a life and its pretty fantastic thanks. Since you didn't realize it was a joke, I was having a discussion too you know. Besides back on the topic since you didn't say anything about my post, but how I said it I guess I'm right, right?

In fact I'm still not finished here: As I what I said about the experience points and inflicting damages was a joke dude, for instance I must give Vegerotto credit for seeing that with the HERO KILL: awesome dude!! Enough lols. I mean come on, this needs public display: It was a joke, it was nothing personal.

Another thing to people who say get a life, everyone here has one, were not zombies. Stop the get a life crap as its annoying, very annoying and I may just report you for saying so as it disrespects the dead. <_<

Oh and by the way can anyone and I mean anyone tell me a time where I've stirred:

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Originally Posted by Cooler's#1fan

up chaos and trouble.

Anyone?

Moving on once again: man Cooler dude, your post has made me lol so much as most of it is called a word that ends in Shit and begins with Bull. I'm drunk so if you take this to heart its on your back. Its not speculation if its the facts like I said for the second time..... I'm not saying that you cannot speculate your thoughts but if another member comes along with facts shooting your opinion into the ground: take it and don't whine about it. I don't and I really don't see why you should either, If anything I'll say well done dude or something if it happens to me....

Lasty...take this to heart:

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Originally Posted by Cooler's#1fan

so if you want to be a prick then do it to someone else. Savvy?

Whatever you say Captain Cooler, you better have read all of this post in detail. Do not call me a prick or anyone else for that matter, or I will report you. I'm watching you like a Hawk!!

apocalypse1280 · 03-16-2008

Man, I was expecting to see the "n" word.

~~Cooler's#1fan~~ · 03-16-2008

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Originally Posted by burningvegeta

Cooler#1Fan...are you being an idiot on purpose? O_O

Number One, you see how you typed that by moving and your breathing. That equals life my friend.....and I'm doing the same thing. I have a life and its pretty fantastic thanks. Since you didn't realize it was a joke, I was having a discussion too you know. Besides back on the topic since you didn't say anything about my post, but how I said it I guess I'm right, right?

In fact I'm still not finished here: As I what I said about the experience points and inflicting damages was a joke dude, for instance I must give Vegerotto credit for seeing that with the HERO KILL: awesome dude!! Enough lols. I mean come on, this needs public display: It was a joke, it was nothing personal.

Another thing to people who say get a life, everyone here has one, were not zombies. Stop the get a life crap as its annoying, very annoying and I may just report you for saying so as it disrespects the dead. <_<

Oh and by the way can anyone and I mean anyone tell me a time where I've stirred:

Anyone?

Moving on once again: man Cooler dude, your post has made me lol so much as most of it is called a word that ends in Shit and begins with Bull. I'm drunk so if you take this to heart its on your back. Its not speculation if its the facts like I said for the second time..... I'm not saying that you cannot speculate your thoughts but if another member comes along with facts shooting your opinion into the ground: take it and don't whine about it. I don't and I really don't see why you should either, If anything I'll say well done dude or something if it happens to me....

Lasty...take this to heart:

Whatever you say Captain Cooler, you better have read all of this post in detail. Do not call me a prick or anyone else for that matter, or I will report you. I'm watching you like a Hawk!!

Yeah... you see the thing is, you are being a bit of a knob in your posts. I personally think it's out of order, so I stand by my statement of

"I'm allowed to say my opinion on something, even if you don't agree with it. If you want to be offensive, do it to someone else"

Oh and for your information, the "chaos and trouble" I am referring to is you jumping down my neck with deliberate paragraphs of a direct and aggresive nature, all because I don't agree with your opinion.

And basically you called me an idiot, I could report you too for using those terms. But better still, why do either of us have to use abusive language. You are what you call people, basically I vote you grow up and we both don't call each other these terms.

Blimey if you are like this EVERY time someone doesn't agree with you...

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Super Ultimate Gohan (21) Majin Warrior Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 1,638 Rep Power: 6	Re: Full Blooded Saiyan as a requirement to SSj4? Well, if you wanna go that way. Then fine, in GT logic base kid kakarrot > adult super saiyan 3. However according to Z logic thats impossible, because he does not have the Ultimate power up. __________________ *"Yes it has been too long, now I am back and better than ever!"*

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~~Dark Skywalker~~ Banned Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: New York Chillin Like A villain Posts: 1,504 Rep Power: 0	Re: Full Blooded Saiyan as a requirement to SSj4? i dont see being a full blooded sayian as a requirement

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Super Ultimate Gohan (21) Majin Warrior Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 1,638 Rep Power: 6	Re: Full Blooded Saiyan as a requirement to SSj4? If thats so, then how come Bebi was losing himself in the power of the Great Ape??? 1. It was never said by anyone with any knowledge of super saiyan 4, that you had to be a full blooded saiyan. 2. With Bebi losing himself as a Great Oozaru, it means nothing about a full blooded saiyan can only attain super saiyan 4. 3. What vegeta and bulma said means nothing, because they have no knowledge about super saiyan 4. Only kakarrot knows anything about it. And even if he said only a pure blooded saiyan can attains would mean shit. Because he thought super saiyan was the max until he was in that coma like state from the heart virus. __________________ *"Yes it has been too long, now I am back and better than ever!"*

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Senzu_Bean (22) Super Saiyan 3 Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Portugal Posts: 1,963 Rep Power: 11	Re: Full Blooded Saiyan as a requirement to SSj4? Bebi never lost himself in the Great Ape power or did he? But the thing is if Vegeta and Bulma stated that and nobody said the contrary that is what DBGT creators wanted to us believe since it is a sentence from the creators.

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apocalypse1280 (21) Majin Warrior Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Planet Earth, Home Of The Free Posts: 1,561 Rep Power: 42	Re: Full Blooded Saiyan as a requirement to SSj4? Um... neither Vegeta nor Bulma said anything about having to be a full blooded saiyan to attain SSJ4. And while people may think differently, it's safe to say common sense should tell anyone that since Bulma's a scientific genius, her guesstimation would be better then anyone else's.

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apocalypse1280 (21) Majin Warrior Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Planet Earth, Home Of The Free Posts: 1,561 Rep Power: 42	Re: Full Blooded Saiyan as a requirement to SSj4? Man, I was expecting to see the "n" word.