Dragonball Z: The Real Movie - Page 62

**LegendarySSJ7** · 09-12-2008

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Originally Posted by SSJBulma

Anything that was originally in comic book form or some sort of animation, cartoon ect is hard to adapt successfully into live action. Some films that come from a comic book story and their characters pull it off and the reason why that is, is because the people behind the live action version stayed faithful to the original. You stay faithful to the original, you even attempt or wish to stay faithful and that's enough, sometimes to end up with a decent film that some people will like and some will not.

Take X- Men films - they changed the costumes, but kept the characters and their names and their powers and the basic comic book premise of each. Yes they may have altered backgrounds or how certain key moments occurred (take the dreadful story of Phoenix which IMO was butchered with the whole schizophrenia backdrop) but still a lot of people enjoyed it simply as a cool action comic book film. Now whether you're a hardcore fan or dragonball or simply someone who likes the idea of the film, a live action version usually screams warning signs. Then when you decide to give it a chance, whoever out there did, and see what is intended with the script, the style and the development and it's completely opposite of what originally made Dragonball great and it's changed everything and belittled it with daftness, it's hard to presume it will actually be worth the money time and effort before seeing it.

I'll watch it online, though I'm not sure if I'll be able to watch it all the way through. What I've seen so far is disastrous and to be honest I never agreed with this idea in the firsts place. There are some mediums that are suited to animation only and Dragonball is something that should remain immortalized in animation and not with young gel actors hopping about flinging Kung Fu moves.

By my view, the only way a Dragonball movie could work is if 1) it'd be CGI 2) it'd be the manga on-screen. And 3) it'd be seperated into a few films.... one on the Saiyan Saga Arc, another on the Freeza Arc, maybe even Cell... not Boo. I'm not sure if those who aren't fans of Dragonball would have patience for pre-DBZ events (such as Piccolo Daimao's reign, Pilaf, the Red Ribbon Army, etc) as the series had more downplaying tones at that point. But that's the only way I feel a duteous adaptation of the series could be furthered. Withal, none of that is happening - even though this is probably being made for sheer money and amusement (or why it's being made - a conundrum of sorts), given that this isn't a sequel of sorts, the box office won't matter.

As for the X-Men films.... I felt the X-Men films were okay, but they certainly weren't this disastrous. However, adaptations like Batman Begins and The Dark Knight succeed because they're 1) respectful to the source material 2) not apparent, but building to the climax with suspense drawing interest 3) philosophical and not mindless and 4) without an overabundance of CGI, whilst still not limiting the story nor visuals of the film(s) 5) not squandering a single character and 6) just good films that appeal to any casual moviegoer.

But to be more on-topic, this film... why a film of this sort would ever be greenlit is that much more mysterious the notion.

SSJBulma · 09-12-2008

It's to do with money and a lack of imagination mainly. Some people can't come up with new ideas, so they adapt, and that is especially apparent in the last few years. Instead of spending time on good films, they need to send out something, anything to make money for the production companiesand if they make a film of a cartoon, game, comic ect the work is more or less done for them.
They just need to spend a few months butchering it...or in some cases making a good film.

Shaka of virgo · 09-12-2008

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Originally Posted by LegendarySSJ7

By my view, the only way a Dragonball movie could work is if 1) it'd be CGI 2) it'd be the manga on-screen. And 3) it'd be seperated into a few films.... one on the Saiyan Saga Arc, another on the Freeza Arc, maybe even Cell... not Boo. I'm not sure if those who aren't fans of Dragonball would have patience for pre-DBZ events (such as Piccolo Daimao's reign, Pilaf, the Red Ribbon Army, etc) as the series had more downplaying tones at that point. But that's the only way I feel a duteous adaptation of the series could be furthered. Withal, none of that is happening - even though this is probably being made for sheer money and amusement (or why it's being made - a conundrum of sorts), given that this isn't a sequel of sorts, the box office won't matter.

As for the X-Men films.... I felt the X-Men films were okay, but they certainly weren't this disastrous. However, adaptations like Batman Begins and The Dark Knight succeed because they're 1) respectful to the source material 2) not apparent, but building to the climax with suspense drawing interest 3) philosophical and not mindless and 4) without an overabundance of CGI, whilst still not limiting the story nor visuals of the film(s) 5) not squandering a single character and 6) just good films that appeal to any casual moviegoer.

But to be more on-topic, this film... why a film of this sort would ever be greenlit is that much more mysterious the notion.

With respect to x men, since the election of magneto, who is a good actor but to old to represent the comic magneto, to Rogue history and the lack of Gambit, X men is exactly the example of why anyone should give DB movie a chance, because the history of x men movies is far diferent from the comics, and without being oscar whorty movies, they are enjoyable.

Batman begins and the dark knights are a good movies, but to say they respect the source material, is a wrong stament, from alfred, Joker, Rhas al Gul, to Batman and the Batmobile, all are nothing like the source material

The only movie that has almost not diference from his source material is ironman, the rest superheroes have being change to make it work as a 2 hours live movies.

**LegendarySSJ7** · 09-13-2008

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Originally Posted by Shaka of virgo

Batman begins and the dark knights are a good movies, but to say they respect the source material, is a wrong stament, from alfred, Joker, Rhas al Gul, to Batman and the Batmobile, all are nothing like the source material.

By "the source material" and "respect", I didn't mean meticulous accuracy on all accounts. Some things that work in the incarnation of a book, comic, or graphic novel may not work on the big screen, as setting the pace is critical, amongst other things. Such mediums are rather different beasts. I meant that the Nolan brothers managed to not disregard and disrespect the source material, with any alteration not necessarily hindering the resulting product. As for the Joker, I would say what the Nolan brothers and Ledger did with the character channels something that calls closer to the nature of what Bob Kane originally gave readers (a dark, murderous, unpredictable, but perspicacious psychopath of sheer chaos whose backstory is kept intensely vague so as to not dampen the impact of the character), rather than the renditions of the character that were full of camp later on.

One can be respectful to the source material and still alter a product, without recanting, if need be. Take the Lord of the Rings movies - Peter Jackson took great strides and liberties with them as translating Tolkien's high fantasy - an epic and prodigious vision - directly to film - does not work. And yet he (Peter Jackson) still managed to convey Middle Earth and still managed to be respectful to the source material.

But to be more on-topic, this "Dragonball" film "adaptation" (which I, as stated before, would not deem so) is going to have none of this. In my opinion, it's taking a series held in good esteem by Dragonball fandom and turning it into a squandering of film forthwith.

Adi · 09-25-2008

I agree... they're making a movie that's totally not what it is.

SSJBulma · 1 Week Ago

Oh yeah bitches - there'sgonna be merchandise!

One little shitty stick on of blue hair and it's Bulma people.

apocalypse1280 · 1 Week Ago

It's so pathetic.

SSJ4 Vegito · 1 Week Ago

I even saw the trailer (I'll post it as soon as I find it again) and Goku uttered: "I don't think I'm ready for this"- Absolutely horrible. That is not Goku at all.

gojirason · 1 Week Ago

They shouldn't do DBZ, they need to do DB first.

But I just don't like the idea. It's like GODZILLA (1998) all over again, except my expectations were high.

Well at least I won't be disappointed if it sucks.

Hawkesy · 1 Week Ago

This IS DB, its the Piccolo Daimoh Saga, with the epic fight at the Tenkaichi Budokai as the end battle. and come on. do we really need THREE seperate threads about this movie?

Rudol_Ichiga · 1 Week Ago

At least Godzilla 98 was good.

Ratchetcomand · 1 Week Ago

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Originally Posted by Rudol_Ichiga

At least Godzilla 98 was good.

Lol, I hope you where not serious

. We already have two topics of this. Can we fuse the other two topics of this and make sticky on this forum section?

gojirason · 1 Week Ago

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Originally Posted by Rudol_Ichiga

At least Godzilla 98 was good.

I'm not gonna jump on the hate bandwagon and say it sucked, I actually enjoyed the movie. The problem is that it wasn't GODZILLA, it was something else. It wasn't true to him and that's the exact problem we would have here.

~~Metallic Rilldo~~ · 1 Week Ago

Looking at SsjBUlma's pics, they should quick while they are ahead. This could ruin everyone's love for DB.

Z Warrior · 1 Week Ago

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Originally Posted by Hawkesy

This IS DB, its the Piccolo Daimoh Saga, with the epic fight at the Tenkaichi Budokai as the end battle. and come on. do we really need THREE seperate threads about this movie?

This thread was out long before the others! Over a year now!

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SSJBulma (29) Great Lord of Worlds Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: In a soup-kitchen stealin your soupz! Posts: 8,790 Blog Entries: 7 Rep Power: 155	Re: Dragonball Z: The Real Movie It's to do with money and a lack of imagination mainly. Some people can't come up with new ideas, so they adapt, and that is especially apparent in the last few years. Instead of spending time on good films, they need to send out something, anything to make money for the production companiesand if they make a film of a cartoon, game, comic ect the work is more or less done for them. They just need to spend a few months butchering it...or in some cases making a good film. __________________ http://revandesigns.weebly.com/gaming-newsreviews.html

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Adi (15) Super Namekian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Melbourne, Australia Posts: 444 Rep Power: 12	Re: Dragonball Z: The Real Movie I agree... they're making a movie that's totally not what it is. __________________ Kudos to Vizard.

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SSJBulma (29) Great Lord of Worlds Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: In a soup-kitchen stealin your soupz! Posts: 8,790 Blog Entries: 7 Rep Power: 155	Re: Dragonball Z: The Real Movie Oh yeah bitches - there'sgonna be merchandise! One little shitty stick on of blue hair and it's Bulma people. __________________ http://revandesigns.weebly.com/gaming-newsreviews.html Last edited by SSJBulma; 1 Week Ago at 11:53 AM.

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SSJ4 Vegito (26) Great Elder of Namek Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 4,482 Rep Power: 138	Re: Dragonball Z: The Real Movie I even saw the trailer (I'll post it as soon as I find it again) and Goku uttered: "I don't think I'm ready for this"- Absolutely horrible. That is not Goku at all. __________________ 90% of DragonBall fans detest DragonBall GT If you're one of the 10% of fans who actually like GT, post this in your signature. "If everything God did made sense he wouldn't be 'God" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4afhQK_sXgQ: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JAi7ZDY2q4s- Dead sea scrolls http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VU_rTX23V7Q for fellow Christians

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gojirason (18) Artificial Human Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 928 Rep Power: 25	Re: Dragonball Z: The Real Movie They shouldn't do DBZ, they need to do DB first. But I just don't like the idea. It's like GODZILLA (1998) all over again, except my expectations were high. Well at least I won't be disappointed if it sucks. __________________ Life is like a box of chocolates, you never know when you're gonna get eaten.

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Hawkesy Bleach Ranked (19) Privaron Espada Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: At The Mountains Of Madness Posts: 1,039 Blog Entries: 3 Rep Power: 62	Re: Dragonball Z: The Real Movie This IS DB, its the Piccolo Daimoh Saga, with the epic fight at the Tenkaichi Budokai as the end battle. and come on. do we really need THREE seperate threads about this movie? __________________ Need a sig or avatar? then fly past my shop http://anime.myfavoritegames.com/cre...est-place.html

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Rudol_Ichiga Bleach Ranked (23) Bankai Captain Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: "Where the hell do you think I am?" Posts: 2,466 Rep Power: 164	Re: Dragonball Z: The Real Movie At least Godzilla 98 was good. __________________ Quote of the now: "Admiration is the furthest thing from understanding" Aizen. Currently watching: YuYu Hakusho Currently Reading: Bleach,Naruto Shipuuden

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~~Metallic Rilldo~~ Banned Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: your closet O.O Posts: 3,240 Blog Entries: 13 Rep Power: 0	Re: Dragonball Z: The Real Movie Looking at SsjBUlma's pics, they should quick while they are ahead. This could ruin everyone's love for DB.