GT Trunks - Page 4

Super Ultimate Gohan · 03-07-2008

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Originally Posted by apocalypse1280

When Baby is inside someone it increases their strength. Since this was the case I think he briefly went SSJ2, cause the same thing happened with Gohan an Goten when they attacked Goku and Pan when they were possessed by Baby. I didn't see lightning around any SSJ in GT, except Trunks, Gohan and Goten when they were possessed by Baby cause of the apparent power increase to SSJ2.

Oh yea for a split second while his hair was the exact same as his regular super saiyan, and the second time was gold lightning not blue so rules out your goten super saiyan 2 theory.

And as for Gohan he never has any lightning around his body either, and his hair is the exact same as before bebi took him too...So that kills your goten and gohan super saiyan theory aswell. And as to whats said before Toei is always known for putting electricity around people where it doesn't belong.

Go watch the filler otherworld Tournament where kakarrot goes super saiyan you see electricity around his body even though he is only a super saiyan and nothing more.

apocalypse1280 · 03-07-2008

Definitely looks like lightning around Gohan. So what kind of hair are you talking about exactly? I will give you this, that was blue lightning around Goten. But if TOEI is so incompetent then why is it so hard to except the fact that they made them go SSJ2 but messed up on the lightning, since thats your big complaint about them anyway? Not mocking you but it's logical.

YouTube - DBGT - Goku VS Baby Goten Gohan and Vegeta Full Fight Part 1

Super Ultimate Gohan · 03-07-2008

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Originally Posted by apocalypse1280

Definitely looks like lightning around Gohan. So what kind of hair are you talking about exactly? I will give you this, that was blue lightning around Goten. But if TOEI is so incompetent then why is it so hard to except the fact that they made them go SSJ2 but messed up on the lightning, since thats your big complaint about them anyway? Not mocking you but it's logical.

YouTube - DBGT - Goku VS Baby Goten Gohan and Vegeta Full Fight Part 1

Hmmmm...For only a few seconds, and for it to be a real super saiyan 2 the lightning has to be consistant, which it was not and consistant as in the whole time and it wasn't and their hair is the exact same as their regular super saiyan only!

So there again the super saiyan theory is killed again...And the fact that Toei's logic is BS GT is a complete disrespect and off logic to Z...There never was any super saiyan 2's in GT...And to answer your question, because that kind of jump would kill them, that had not trained for 10 years, their bodies could handle that kind of jump in power with or without bebi thats logic too.

apocalypse1280 · 03-07-2008

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Originally Posted by Super Ultimate Gohan

Hmmmm...For only a few seconds, and for it to be a real super saiyan 2 the lightning has to be consistant, which it was not and consistant as in the whole time and it wasn't and their hair is the exact same as their regular super saiyan only!

So there again the super saiyan theory is killed again...And the fact that Toei's logic is BS GT is a complete disrespect and off logic to Z...There never was any super saiyan 2's in GT...And to answer your question, because that kind of jump would kill them, that had not trained for 10 years, their bodies could handle that kind of jump in power with or without bebi thats logic too.

Well first of all thats not good enough, cause as you can see here in DragonBall Z, Goku and Vegeta are fighting as SSJ2's, but... wait... no way... NO LIGHTNING! Yes this is the anime and not the manga but you know GT is non-canon so my logic is more logical than yours.

YouTube - majin vegeta vs goku no filler full fight part 1

Super Ultimate Gohan · 03-07-2008

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Originally Posted by apocalypse1280

Well first of all thats not good enough, cause as you can see here in DragonBall Z, Goku and Vegeta are fighting as SSJ2's, but... wait... no way... NO LIGHTNING! Yes this is the anime and not the manga but you know GT is non-canon so my logic is more logical than yours.

YouTube - majin vegeta vs goku no filler full fight part 1

Funny only one episode did you see the one after with consistant LIGHTNING convinient that you didn't post that one.

You purposely leaving out certain things to prove your right. Also their hair styles are that of a super saiyan 2. See in GT their hair is that of a super saiyan ONLY, not only that the LIGHTNING you claim to be there is not consistant. Also when they both go super saiyan 2 the EPISODE BEFORE, there is consistant lightning.

The prior episode, episode 214.
YouTube - DBZ- Vegetas Pride episode 214 part 2

Two episodes later, Episode 216.
YouTube - DBZ Episode 216 P2

apocalypse1280 · 03-07-2008

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Originally Posted by Super Ultimate Gohan

Funny only one episode did you see the one after with consistant LIGHTNING convinient that you didn't post that one.

You purposely leaving out certain things to prove your right. Also their hair styles are that of a super saiyan 2. See in GT their hair is that of a super saiyan ONLY, not only that the LIGHTNING you claim to be there is not consistant. Also when they both go super saiyan 2 the EPISODE BEFORE, there is consistant lightning.

The prior episode, episode 214.
YouTube - DBZ- Vegetas Pride episode 214 part 2

Two episodes later, Episode 216.
YouTube - DBZ Episode 216 P2

Hahaha, you know what I noticed about your 'proof', the electricity is only present when they're just standing there, no electricity when they're fighting though. So the electricity is consistent when just standing around, I see. Not only that but what don't you get about TOEI being incompetent when it came to certain things, could be their blunder.

Super Ultimate Gohan · 03-07-2008

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Originally Posted by apocalypse1280

Hahaha, you know what I noticed about your 'proof', the electricity is only present when they're just standing there, no electricity when they're fighting though. So the electricity is consistent when just standing around, I see. Not only that but what don't you get about TOEI being incompetent when it came to certain things, could be their blunder.

Oh really now...YouTube - DBZ - SSJ2 Goku vs Majin Vegeta Part 2

apocalypse1280 · 03-07-2008

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Originally Posted by Super Ultimate Gohan

Oh really now...YouTube - DBZ - SSJ2 Goku vs Majin Vegeta Part 2

Ah, there was electricity when he was holding Goku and flying towards the ground, and there was electricity when they were holding hands. But honestly that's not 'consistent' at all. It is in the manga I know this, but not in the anime. I'll concede one other thing now that I think about it: when Goten was possessed by Baby and powered up that time against Goku, he had absolutely no aura, there was only electricity, that I will say, but Gohan did have an aura plus electricity. I don't know, I have a video of when Goku goes SSJ3 and they show SSJ2 and the electricity around him doesn't look much different from the electricity around Gohan, but you got me on the hair thing.

YouTube - kid goku transforming ssj3

Super Ultimate Gohan · 03-07-2008

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Originally Posted by apocalypse1280

Ah, there was electricity when he was holding Goku and flying towards the ground, and there was electricity when they were holding hands. But honestly that's not 'consistent' at all. It is in the manga I know this, but not in the anime. I'll concede one other thing now that I think about it: when Goten was possessed by Baby and powered up that time against Goku, he had absolutely no aura, there was only electricity, that I will say, but Gohan did have an aura plus electricity. I don't know, I have a video of when Goku goes SSJ3 and they show SSJ2 and the electricity around him doesn't look much different from the electricity around Gohan, but you got me on the hair thing.

YouTube - kid goku transforming ssj3

This doesn't mean anything, he was transforming into a SS3. You know there will be lightning...It's just like this.

YouTube - DBZ- Vegetas Pride episode 214 part 2

apocalypse1280 · 03-07-2008

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Originally Posted by Super Ultimate Gohan

This doesn't mean anything, he was transforming into a SS3. You know there will be lightning...It's just like this.

YouTube - DBZ- Vegetas Pride episode 214 part 2

What???

Super Ultimate Gohan · 03-07-2008

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Originally Posted by apocalypse1280

What???

You showed me a clip of where kakarrot goes SS3, of course there will be lightning, just like my clip kakarrot goes SS2 and there was lightning...The only difference is a higher level in one and not the other. But they both have lightning.

apocalypse1280 · 03-07-2008

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Originally Posted by Super Ultimate Gohan

You showed me a clip of where kakarrot goes SS3, of course there will be lightning, just like my clip kakarrot goes SS2 and there was lightning...The only difference is a higher level in one and not the other. But they both have lightning.

Oh my bad. What I was trying to show in the clip I posted was that Goku goes SSJ, SSJ2 then SSJ3. You can see each of the levels clearly. Now what I was trying to show you was when he's SSJ2, the aura and electricity around his body doesn't look different from the aura and electricity around Gohans body when he was possessed by Baby. So I think Gohan went SSJ2. Like I said you got me on the hair thing, but TOEI wasn't great at attaining the DragonBall reality.

Super Ultimate Gohan · 03-07-2008

Toei has been known to throw plotholes all through the movies and GT. Thats why most wont take GT seriously...

apocalypse1280 · 03-07-2008

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Originally Posted by Super Ultimate Gohan

Toei has been known to throw plotholes all through the movies and GT. Thats why most wont take GT seriously...

Exactly. TOEI made Tapion give Trunks his sword which doesn't fit into the DB timeline, they made Goku go SSJ(now known as false SSJ) in the Lord Slug movie, they made Gohan lose his Mystic powers, they even made SSJ Kid Goku a bit stronger then SSJ3 adult Goku. You can't count them out, and I think this is another example.

Super Ultimate Gohan · 03-07-2008

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Originally Posted by apocalypse1280

Exactly. TOEI made Tapion give Trunks his sword which doesn't fit into the DB timeline, they made Goku go SSJ(now known as false SSJ) in the Lord Slug movie, they made Gohan lose his Mystic powers, they even made SSJ Kid Goku a bit stronger then SSJ3 adult Goku. You can't count them out, and I think this is another example.

Also the fact that, at the end of Z Goten and Trunks were no where near the power of a super saiyan 2. Also Adult Gohan as a super saiyan was so weak that even if he was a super saiyan 2, he would only be just barely.

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apocalypse1280 (21) Majin Warrior Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Planet Earth, Home Of The Free Posts: 1,561 Rep Power: 42	Re: GT Trunks Definitely looks like lightning around Gohan. So what kind of hair are you talking about exactly? I will give you this, that was blue lightning around Goten. But if TOEI is so incompetent then why is it so hard to except the fact that they made them go SSJ2 but messed up on the lightning, since thats your big complaint about them anyway? Not mocking you but it's logical. YouTube - DBGT - Goku VS Baby Goten Gohan and Vegeta Full Fight Part 1

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Super Ultimate Gohan (21) Majin Warrior Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 1,638 Rep Power: 6	Re: GT Trunks Toei has been known to throw plotholes all through the movies and GT. Thats why most wont take GT seriously... __________________ *"Yes it has been too long, now I am back and better than ever!"*