Broli threads piss me off

[Ultimate_Gohan]

First off, Gohan has the most potential. Second, there is nothing such as LSSJ4. He can't be. That means you made up the transformation. Broly was only LSSJ. Heck, he isn't even LSSJ2. Just LSSJ, and you should know this. Second, he wouldn't be able to reach SS4 or anything like that. He needs to LEARN TO CONTROL the Golden ape state to be SS4 and only Goku did (and vegeta with the help of that machine). Broly has no common sense to do so. He's uncontrollable.
Again that is if you mean SS4 but about LSSJ4, no, that doesn't exist.

[Duo]

Originally Posted by Senzu_Bean

Gohan didn't say anything when Broly was powering up into his LSSj form. He said that when he was battling SSj Broly. To me more exactly, when he blasted the ground and made a hole in it.

There isn't an official sketch drew by Akira Toriyama that says Broly received a Zenkai? I think there is. I even have a copy on my computer.

Don't make claims without proof? Show me the "sketch" (which anyone on the internet could have drawn)

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And that whole thing about Broli only first tapping into his power is total speculation with absolutely no foundation rooted in any materials provided in or for the series at all whatsoever.

JUST SAYIN'

[Broly The LSSJ]

Canon-wise, Gohan has the most.
If we include non-canon, then Broly does.

Actually, there wouldn't be a LSSJ2 because LSSJ is Broly's SSJ2 except much stronger. LSSJ4 is a hypothetical transformation but it makes sense because SSJ4 is only for a normal Super Saiyan, not a Legendary one. I doubt he would be able to hold this kind of power without having to transform at all, otherwise his body would explode. That part is mostly common sense.

Also, I explained how its possible for him to be calm in the Golden Ape form and thats probably the best way since just the thought of Goku makes him go psycho.

[Duo]

Broli was killed by non-Super Saiya'jin 2's twice. Any Super Saiya'jin 2 could thrash Broli.

[Ultimate_Gohan]

He isn't stronger than a Super Saiyan 2. Gohan was not Super Saiyan 2 in movie 10. He had no electricity, now you can't just assume Toei "forgot" the lightnings because it doesn't make sense. Gohan SS1 + Goten SS1> LSSJ Broly. Also LSSJ4 simply wouldn't exist. He never reached it and I doubt he has the power to reach it. Broly was a bit stronger than Gohan MSSJ. That's where his power varies. Also if you take movie 8 into consideration, Broly was beaten by Mid-RoSaT Goku + power of half-dead friends.
We can't assume Broly has the most potential in the non-canon world. It was never shown he had a huge power increase from time to time (except when he broke the controlling necklace)
Also he couldn't reach SS4 (notice: it's without "L" because it simply doesn't exist and we can't simply assume it would) because Broly is on an uncontrollable rage, he lacks common sense, therefore he wouldn't "know" to master the Ozaru form and go SS4. I doubt he'd even have the power to go SS3.

[Senzu_Bean]

Originally Posted by Duo

Don't make claims without proof? Show me the "sketch" (which anyone on the internet could have drawn)

Don't worry: http://img87.imageshack.us/img87/732/broliym4.jpg

Originally Posted by Ultimate_Gohan

He isn't stronger than a Super Saiyan 2. Gohan was not Super Saiyan 2 in movie 10. He had no electricity, now you can't just assume Toei "forgot" the lightnings because it doesn't make sense.

Why not?! Toei always forgot about the lightnings. Just look at Vegeta in both, Movie 12 and 13.

[Ultimate_Gohan]

However we can't just assume that Toei "forgot". We can't just go by assumption and no given facts.

[Senzu_Bean]

Well excluding the lack of lightning, Gohan is clearly a SSj2: the hair, the face, the personality.

[Ultimate_Gohan]

But the lightning is the main feature that can distinguish SS1 from SS2. The hair (not by much) are just in Gohan's case. Vegeta's hair don't change.

[Super Ultimate Gohan]

Broli was nothing but a big waste of character, he could have been great but TOEI had to F@*k it up. I mean hell his power would only be between Vegeta's post-rosat, and Kakarrot's mid-rosat, and the gathering of power represents the FPSS if that. I mean hell how can Boli be the most powerful if he's weaker than cell.

I mean really he is the most overrated character in DB/Z/GT ever. Thats what confuses the hell out of me, he's weaker then Gohan's SS2, but he's thrown in SS3 and even SS4 discussions. I mean hell he should had been more like Vegetto or Gogetta or even Gotenks, or hell Adult Gohan's SS2 level. That would had been alot better, I mean I use to think Broli was this big thing and I even wrote a fanfic in one of the old MFG forum sites, then I woke up and saw how much of a waste he was...

[Senzu_Bean]

Originally Posted by Ultimate_Gohan

But the lightning is the main feature that can distinguish SS1 from SS2. The hair (not by much) are just in Gohan's case. Vegeta's hair don't change.

But Toei forgot the lightning. Is that too difficult to understand? (Not try to offend you ) Vegeta's hair change between his SSj and SSj2 form. In his SSj2 form, his hair is much more spikier (similar to his SSj 2nd Grade form) and much more divided (hope you know what I mean).

Originally Posted by Super Ultimate Gohan

Broli was nothing but a big waste of character, he could have been great but TOEI had to F@*k it up. I mean hell his power would only be between Vegeta's post-rosat, and Kakarrot's mid-rosat, and the gathering of power represents the FPSS if that.

If you are talking about Movie 8, then yes.

[burningvegeta]

off subject:

Originally Posted by Super Ultimate Gohan

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-You have taken Ultimate Gohan's name and superfied it.

[Super Ultimate Gohan]

Originally Posted by Senzu_Bean

But Toei forgot the lightning. Is that too difficult to understand? (Not try to offend you ) Vegeta's hair change between his SSj and SSj2 form. In his SSj2 form, his hair is much more spikier (similar to his SSj 2nd Grade form) and much more divided (hope you know what I mean).



If you are talking about Movie 8, then yes.

Thats exactly what I mean, yes in movie 8 thats the limit of broli, I mean hell in second coming Gohan should had been able to defeat broli on his own training or no training.

[Ultimate_Gohan]

Lol, hehe. He's an older member than me and he clearly knows a lot about DBZ.

@Senzu: I know what you mean, however facts are facts. It's a WHOLE movie. They may forget it in a sequence but not in a whole movie.

[Super Ultimate Gohan]

Originally Posted by burningvegeta

off subject:

-You have taken Ultimate Gohan's name and superfied it.

Yes it has to do with a fanfic I'm still working on, Gohan is so enrages his body transforms into a higher state...At first his saiyan wants to go SS then his ultimate power kicks in and goes another direction.

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Originally Posted by Ultimate_Gohan
Lol, hehe. He's an older member than me and he clearly knows a lot about DBZ.

I've been a fan for almost as long as I've been a gamer, and I've been gamiong for 10 years.

lol oops double posted against the rules :D