Jay

Actually I based that off from what you said in your post and your diagram to make sense of what I thought you were trying to portray.

And you shouldn't ignore the rest of the post because it could hold some valid information on Ssj3 Goku and Ultimate Gohan you may be overlooking, who knows. I often overlook stuff myself and like to be corrected if I have.

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I think it goes like this: Super Vegeto (since Vegeto never fought)>>>Super Buu w/Goham>>>Super Buu w/Gotenks ss3 and Piccolo>>Ultimate Gohan>>>Super Buu>>SS3 Goku >/= Kid Buu > Majin Buu.

It's logical.

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Jay

Well we know that Kid Buu turned into Fat Buu when he absorbed Dai Supreme Kai thus neutralizing his evil and reducing his potential thus reducing his power level largely.

Kid Buu > Majin Buu
Correct

Super Saiyan 3 Goku gave Kid Buu a good run, but wasn't strong enough to defeat him so I would agree with that. Although it puzzles me largely why Super Saiyan 3 Goku didn't finish off Fat Buu when he could, perhaps it was because he had just transformed and was not used to the form at all yet.

Ssj3 Goku > Kid Buu > Majin Buu
Correct

So round about when Ssj3 Goku fought Kid Buu, its safe to say that he had mildly grown used to the Ssj3 form and would probably be able to take on Majin Buu (Fat) more efffectively. Hence the diagram above states.

Ssj3 Goku > Kid Buu > Majin Buu

Now when considering Ssj3 Goku and Super Buu which never occured in a battle, i'm going to take a massive gap for a second andgo straight to the top of the power system to Super Vegeto and work my way down.

Super Vegeto > Majin Buu w/Gohan

Thus...

Super Vegeto > Majin Buu w/Gohan > Majin Buu w/Ssj3 Gotenks and Piccolo

Majin Buu w/Ssj3 Gotenks and Piccolo EASILY took on Ultimate Gohan, who handled regular Super Buu very well. So this makes...

Super Vegeto >> Majin Buu w/Gohan >> Majin Buu w/Ssj3 Gotenks and Piccolo >> Ultimate Gohan >> Super Buu


Ssj3 Goku > Kid Buu > Majin Buu

Different power battle scales.

I guess it is just down to opinion, the two forms of Ultimate Gohan and Ssj3 Goku seem to be associated with different power battle scales.

Because sometimes the favour goes towards both of them in differnet circumstances, I level it out to make them roughly on par, hence my post a few posts above.

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Vizard

Super Buu>>>Kid Buu. Goku SS3 was almost equal to Kid Buu (maybe a bit stronger). Ultimate Gohan>>>Super Buu. Which makes him stronger than SS3 Goku. Seriously, it isn't that had.

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Duo

Goku said that if him and Vegeta fought Majin Boo II (no absorptions), they would be annihilated.

Gohan made a joke out of the same Boo, on his own.

This means that "Super" Boo is vastly superior to Goku as a Super Saiya'jin 3, even with the help of a Super Saiya'jin 2, and Gohan is vastly superior to that.

So, there is no way they are similar in terms of power.

And I can't believe this subject has come up again, for the first time in what seems like years.

In order, here's all the significant threads that have dealt with this matter, not including the countless times it's popped up as a side note in various threads, which would count in the hundreds.

Which Buu is strongest?

SSJ3 Goku Vs.Mystic Gohan

The Mightiest Majin

The Mightiest Majin
(Same title, different thread/discussion)

SJJ3 Goku full power vs Mystic Gohan

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Jay

Well Kid Buu (Be him weaker or stronger than Super Buu) was ALOT crazier and less out of control than Super Buu.

Super Buu was smart, but cocky... and compared to Kid Buu he was VERY PASSIVE.

It's hard to really tell if Super Buu was trying most of the time.

So that's why its faulty to try and compare Kid Buu and Super Buu.

I mean USSJ2 is more powerful than USSJ, but in a fight due to other circumstances, USSJ would probably win.

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Vizard

It doesn't matter if he was crazy or not. Kid Buu was simply weaker than Super Buu. I also thought like that when I first joined the forum but try to read the threads Duo posted and learn.

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Go to the later ones, preferrably...the first two are really ugh.

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Super Cool

I lot of us thought Kid buu was the strongest buu until we joined the forums.

Back to the topic I think Goku and Vegeta use the earing first and then they could turn SS4 so that way they can power down. SS4 Vegito would slaughter every living thing ever.

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Jay

You make it seem like i'm a newb to the Dragonball Z franchise lol, that sort of makes me laugh. I'm a newb to this board, there is a significant difference.

I don't think Kid Buu is stronger than Super Buu, those words never left my mouth, i'm saying Super Buu is more passive than Kid Buu. Kid Buu went full out from the start and didn't hold back, Super Buu didn't use his full strength all the time.


Anyway on the topic. Vegeto is a different person right? Potara fusions don't create 2 fighters fused, it creates a whole new fighter... a different person.

Vegeto would have never had gone to Oozaru before yet alone Golden Oozaru, so he would have to go through the Golden Oozaru and control it to reach Ssj4 being a whole new person.

I don't think he could ascend to Ssj4 just because Goku and Vegeta could, Vegeto is a whole different saiyan.

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Duo

The discussion was never about their temperaments, though. Change the subject much?

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Jay

Super Cool already changed the subject above, and I followed along.

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Duo

Yeah, but Super Cool likes Megaman X, so I'm passing the blame onto you even though you don't deserve it.

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Jay

Lol i'm going to take that as some form of light hearted humour.

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