Cliche after cliche - Page 2

**LegendarySSJ7** · 04-18-2006

Something I'd like to remark about Goku smiling often, well, he can't help it - it's in his nature, he is an angst free hero after all. Just like Goku, all the characters do their typical crap in the movies... Vegeta being cantankerous and jeering everyone, then moaning about how nobody's allowed to destroy Goku but him, Kuririn being craven, Piccolo taunting his enemies or the antagonist in a rather lame fashion, the heroes getting badly beaten and then winning by some cheap power up or energy attaining in the end, and so forth.

aqua frogg · 04-18-2006

thats funny You said Trunks can control his temper because of Bulma... You must of missed most of dragon ball with no Z then.

The Chibi Kiriyama · 04-18-2006

To be frank, all SSJBulma was saying was that Trunks would have ended up just as nonchalant as Vegeta had Bulma not been around to quell that nature. It has nothing to do with his anger, just that he would have ended up an infinitely more fatalistic person had he been raised by Vegeta alone. Maybe you inferred that she was talking about Trunks keeping his fighting drive in check?

SSJBulma · 04-18-2006

Was about to respond to that but ChibiKiriyama basically said what I was about to,though probably in a clearer way.

.Future_Trunks · 04-19-2006

about goku's mother..well..when i saw that scene from the movie it seemd like the sayains life style was all about sex,drinks and violence..

its when bardock went to warn the sayains about freeza's betrayal..they showed the sayains in a bar doing what they thinks its "FUN".

where i am getting at is goku's mom could be just a ..ehm..a prostitute

so probably the creators just didn't want goku's fans to think that his mom is a just one night stand..if you know what i mean lol..

.LegendaryBroli · 04-19-2006

you know whats really cliche when goku says "I will defeat you!" to every villian and after he gets beaten up by the villian he somehow defeats the villian.

SSJBulma · 04-20-2006

lol that is another annoying one LegendaryBroli.

Future_Trunks-I laughed when I read this,not at you bear in mind
.I don't think that any Saiyan woman(or man) would be a prostitute.I remember the bar scene as well and where I agree with you that they were all boozing ect there's nothing to even suggest anyone let alone Goku's mother would be a prostitute.They are all equal and powerful and don't seem to want for anything(materialwise)

.LegendaryBroli · 04-20-2006

Another cliche I always see is how everyone thinks the villian they fight is the strongest in the universe yet there is a new villian stronger than the old

**LegendarySSJ7** · 04-20-2006

QUOTE(LegendaryBroli @ Apr 19 2006, 04:55 PM)
Another cliche I always see is how everyone thinks the villian they fight is the strongest in the universe yet there is a new villian stronger than the old

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This cliche is limpid in both the Dragonball Z Anime and Manga as well - it's called relativity. Yes, it's all relative, and as Tensa put in another thread, Dragonball is about breaking through the wall of your limits and reaching new heights.

Lord_Sloth · 05-29-2008

I do agree with what you're saying. Tis why I enjoyed Bardock and the History of Trunks more than any other so far.

04-18-2006	#16 (permalink)
LegendarySSJ7 Moderator Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 2,527 Rep Power: 19	Cliche after cliche Something I'd like to remark about Goku smiling often, well, he can't help it - it's in his nature, he is an angst free hero after all. Just like Goku, all the characters do their typical crap in the movies... Vegeta being cantankerous and jeering everyone, then moaning about how nobody's allowed to destroy Goku but him, Kuririn being craven, Piccolo taunting his enemies or the antagonist in a rather lame fashion, the heroes getting badly beaten and then winning by some cheap power up or energy attaining in the end, and so forth. __________________

04-18-2006	#17 (permalink)
aqua frogg (10) Saiyan Elite Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Flint mi Posts: 135 Rep Power: 4	Cliche after cliche thats funny You said Trunks can control his temper because of Bulma... You must of missed most of dragon ball with no Z then. __________________ Yo buy this game!

04-18-2006	#18 (permalink)
The Chibi Kiriyama (20) Super Saiyan 2 Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Henderson, Nevada Posts: 1,299 Rep Power: 5	Cliche after cliche To be frank, all SSJBulma was saying was that Trunks would have ended up just as nonchalant as Vegeta had Bulma not been around to quell that nature. It has nothing to do with his anger, just that he would have ended up an infinitely more fatalistic person had he been raised by Vegeta alone. Maybe you inferred that she was talking about Trunks keeping his fighting drive in check?

04-18-2006	#19 (permalink)
SSJBulma (28) Lord of Worlds Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: In a soup-kitchen stealin your soupz! Posts: 8,221 Blog Entries: 7 Rep Power: 104	Cliche after cliche Was about to respond to that but ChibiKiriyama basically said what I was about to,though probably in a clearer way. __________________ http://revandesigns.weebly.com/gaming-newsreviews.html

04-19-2006	#20 (permalink)
.Future_Trunks (22) Super Saiyan 3 Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 1,959 Rep Power: 6	Cliche after cliche about goku's mother..well..when i saw that scene from the movie it seemd like the sayains life style was all about sex,drinks and violence.. its when bardock went to warn the sayains about freeza's betrayal..they showed the sayains in a bar doing what they thinks its "FUN". where i am getting at is goku's mom could be just a ..ehm..a prostitute so probably the creators just didn't want goku's fans to think that his mom is a just one night stand..if you know what i mean lol..

04-19-2006	#21 (permalink)
.LegendaryBroli (18) Artificial Human Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 948 Rep Power: 4	Cliche after cliche you know whats really cliche when goku says "I will defeat you!" to every villian and after he gets beaten up by the villian he somehow defeats the villian.

04-20-2006	#22 (permalink)
SSJBulma (28) Lord of Worlds Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: In a soup-kitchen stealin your soupz! Posts: 8,221 Blog Entries: 7 Rep Power: 104	Cliche after cliche lol that is another annoying one LegendaryBroli. Future_Trunks-I laughed when I read this,not at you bear in mind .I don't think that any Saiyan woman(or man) would be a prostitute.I remember the bar scene as well and where I agree with you that they were all boozing ect there's nothing to even suggest anyone let alone Goku's mother would be a prostitute.They are all equal and powerful and don't seem to want for anything(materialwise) __________________ http://revandesigns.weebly.com/gaming-newsreviews.html

04-20-2006	#23 (permalink)
.LegendaryBroli (18) Artificial Human Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 948 Rep Power: 4	Cliche after cliche Another cliche I always see is how everyone thinks the villian they fight is the strongest in the universe yet there is a new villian stronger than the old

04-20-2006	#24 (permalink)
LegendarySSJ7 Moderator Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 2,527 Rep Power: 19	Cliche after cliche QUOTE(LegendaryBroli @ Apr 19 2006, 04:55 PM) Another cliche I always see is how everyone thinks the villian they fight is the strongest in the universe yet there is a new villian stronger than the old [snapback]635021[/snapback] This cliche is limpid in both the Dragonball Z Anime and Manga as well - it's called relativity. Yes, it's all relative, and as Tensa put in another thread, Dragonball is about breaking through the wall of your limits and reaching new heights. __________________

05-29-2008	#25 (permalink)
Lord_Sloth (28) Lord of Worlds Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Douglasville Georgia Posts: 8,192 Rep Power: 51	Re: Cliche after cliche I do agree with what you're saying. Tis why I enjoyed Bardock and the History of Trunks more than any other so far. __________________ Lord_Sloth's Theme Song Lord_Sloth's "ASK ME ANYTHING!!!" Go ahead, click and ask whatever you want. "You can't help it. You can't fight it. You can't accept it. You just have to leave everything related to it because you couldn't get what you chose." ~Evil Dark Knight http://cristgaming.com/pirate.swf