Was Super Saiya-Jin X3 Goku stronger then Fat Buu - Page 3

GikuHonishimo · 09-14-2005

QUOTE(Evil Vegeta @ Sep 13 2005, 02:03 PM)
I do agree that the manga is better then the Anime! But I have those cool Japanese ones that actually have accurate subtitles, and Goku did say to Vegeta he could've beat Buu if he went all out just like the manga said. Also when I hear FP that agitates me! When he is SSJ x3 he is at full power, because it takes alot of damn Ki to transform anyway.

I still think it would have been rather tough to do that though! Goku would have to probably do a Ultimate Super Kame-Hame-Ha or something like that, because the samething that kept happening to Gotenks would happen to Goku. Buu would keep forming, and they would keep losing Ki energy.

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It wouldn't be all that tough if Goku just pulled Super Dragon Fist out of his ass, but instead they had to make him do the ghei Genkai Dama one more time, where as Super Dragon Fist would've been a better finish to the fight, since it would be like the end of movie 13 when Goku destroys Hildegarn, only he destroys a main villian.

.Evil Vegeta · 09-14-2005

I agree with that. I don't think he even knew the technique at that time. I am also not sure if that would have destroyed him theorally. Buu would just form back again, and again. Oh yeah I forgot that the DragonFist distengrates the enemy as well. I still don't think that would good enough though!

Maybe if he did Ultimate Kame-Hame-Ha and blew him into those little pieces that float around, and then fired another one at the pieces, that would have obliverated him for good.

GikuHonishimo · 09-14-2005

QUOTE(Evil Vegeta @ Sep 13 2005, 02:03 PM)
I do agree that the manga is better then the Anime! But I have those cool Japanese ones that actually have accurate subtitles, and Goku did say to Vegeta he could've beat Buu if he went all out just like the manga said. Also when I hear FP that agitates me! When he is SSJ x3 he is at full power, because it takes alot of damn Ki to transform anyway.

I still think it would have been rather tough to do that though! Goku would have to probably do a Ultimate Super Kame-Hame-Ha or something like that, because the samething that kept happening to Gotenks would happen to Goku. Buu would keep forming, and they would keep losing Ki energy.

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Truthfully he starts out at full power, yes you are correct, but it is drained rather swiftly, and so that is where people get the term FPSSJ3, in which Goku suddenly gets an ability to go to a maximum power he originally started at.

If Goku were to do any type of Kamehameha, it should've been the one he was about to Kill San-Shenron with, in which he named something like the Final Kamehameha, unfortuantely he never got to use it, but that looked like it was going to be powerful. Or maybe in SSJ3 Goku should've gotten the ability to multiply his kamehameha 5 times over (another only good thing that came out of GT)

Nova Shenron · 09-14-2005

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You just said manga scans are valid anywhere, right? So in this case the manga refutes the anime (look at my manga scans on page 1). This is the anime section, so in this case you are saying the anime prevails? Make up your mind please

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The manga prevails, not the anime. And if you read the part with Kid Buu Goku will distinctively say "I probably could've beaten Fat Buu as a Super Saiya-jin 3, but I wanted to let the kids have a chance" or something to that extent, I'd have to go read it to get the exact line.

LOL how many times must this be done. ANIME IS THE LAW. Manga holds no grounds in the Anime section because it is the ANIME that is under discussion not the Manga. How do you people not understand that?

.Evil Vegeta · 09-14-2005

I know which one your talking about! Goku's Jubei Kame-Hame-Ha, A.K.A 10x in the dub. I think only Goku as a Super Saiya-Jin X4 can do that attack. I know if he had the chance to use that one, it would probably erase Buu completely, but that's a matter of opinion.

Maybe DragonFist would have got rid of him though!

Another thing, what do you mean why can't we understand? It's not much to understand if you have at least half a brain. The Manga is alot more accurate, and better then the Anime. I am not trying to knock the Anime though, because I have nearly all of the Anime's, and Manga's.

Nova Shenron · 09-14-2005

lol yea and it EVERY other section Manga overrules Anime but in this section Anime is everything and manga is nothing but scrap paper

.Evil Vegeta · 09-14-2005

Oh well, that's simply your opinion. I like both so it really doesn't matter to me one way or another, and there is no point of debating it! The manga is better and that's a fact, but the Anime is great as well. Anyway's let's get back on topic.

I don't believe in a Full Power Super Saiya-Jin x3. As a SSJ x3 he is at full strength. That's why it's so hard to stay in that form. It would never give Goku the proper opportunity to finish off a superior villian!?

GikuHonishimo · 09-14-2005

QUOTE(Nova Shenron @ Sep 13 2005, 07:15 PM)
lol yea and it EVERY other section Manga overrules Anime but in this section Anime is everything and manga is nothing but scrap paper

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LOL, OMG, YOU'RE AN IDIOT!!!! There is no rule that states that this is an anime is the law section. MANGA IS LAW OVER ALL, and don't you ever forget it. People have been putting manga scans in here for as long as I've been around and it's been perfectly fine. Noobs like yourself need to know that the manga is fact and the anime is plothol'd. Thank you and good day sir.

DK64_MASTER · 09-14-2005

This topic should have been put in General Discussion in the first place. Did anyone of you guys think of that?

I don't see anything special relating to the anime in the topic, so it should go in GD.

It was the original poster's mistake. He wants proof, but we can't provide manga proof, since it is the wrong section. How can you be selective about proof?

.Evil Vegeta · 09-14-2005

Listen I made a mistake in posting the topic right here, okay! You don't have to come off like a complete jackass. Anyway if it's not relevant, or pertaining to anything you care about ignore it. It's not that tough of an assignment! Just simply don't post in the topic!!

Anyway how did Goku even learn how to power-up to Super Saiya-Jin x3, from different kai's, who shouldn't even know that much about Super Saiya-Jins!?

GikuHonishimo · 09-14-2005

QUOTE(Evil Vegeta @ Sep 13 2005, 07:59 PM)
Listen I made a mistake in posting the topic right here, okay! You don't have to come off like a complete jackass. Anyway if it's not relevant, or pertaining to anything you care about ignore it. It's not that tough of an assignment! Just simply don't post in the topic!!

Anyway how did Goku even learn how to power-up to Super Saiya-Jin x3, from different kai's, who shouldn't even know that much about Super Saiya-Jins!?

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The fact is Goku learnt Super Saiya-jin 3 while training in the otherworld, as he states himself obviously. I had a friend who argued with me that he might've gotten it in movie 12, which I find utterly repulsive since it's just ridicolus.

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Listen I made a mistake in posting the topic right here, okay! You don't have to come off like a complete jackass. Anyway if it's not relevant, or pertaining to anything you care about ignore it. It's not that tough of an assignment! Just simply don't post in the topic!!

He was talking to the idiots like Nova Shenron who were like ANIME IS THE LAW when this topic doesn't even belong here, not you.

DK64_MASTER · 09-14-2005

QUOTE(Evil Vegeta @ Sep 13 2005, 05:59 PM)
Listen I made a mistake in posting the topic right here, okay! You don't have to come off like a complete jackass. Anyway if it's not relevant, or pertaining to anything you care about ignore it. It's not that tough of an assignment! Just simply don't post in the topic!!

Anyway how did Goku even learn how to power-up to Super Saiya-Jin x3, from different kai's, who shouldn't even know that much about Super Saiya-Jins!?

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Hey, I'm sorry, I was just trying to make myself heard over Nova Shenron and Giku (mainly Shenron, lol). I didn't mean to flame you. I just put the font on the largest, didn't know it would be that loud.

So if you put it here, you should put a sign or an edit on the front page of this topic saying it is OK to use manga scans. That would clear up this whole debate.

QUOTE(GikuHonishimo @ Sep 13 2005, 06:03 PM)
He was talking to the idiots like Nova Shenron who were like ANIME IS THE LAW when this topic doesn't even belong here, not you.

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Yep that is correct.

.Evil Vegeta · 09-14-2005

Oh sorry. I thought you were just trying to be smart, but I understand now. I am really glad you are directing your attack towards that imbecile! He is an annoying moron Nova.

GikuHonishimo · 09-14-2005

Yes he is annoying, and it's people like him that may be the reason I leave this forum. I can see why everyone is leaving because of noobs, they're not running away, they're being forced out because they can't take it anymore. Just like I can barely take these idiots anymore, it's ridicolus.

.Evil Vegeta · 09-14-2005

Ignore him man! It's just a little punk who think's he is a know it all. Don't leave forums because of one fool!

Anyway how much stronger was SSJ x3, then Mystic Gohan. I keep hearing Gohan was stronger, however I am not quite sure.

09-14-2005	#31 (permalink)
GikuHonishimo (20) Super Saiyan 2 Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: I live behind closed eyes Posts: 1,236 Rep Power: 5	Was Super Saiya-Jin X3 Goku stronger then Fat Buu QUOTE(Evil Vegeta @ Sep 13 2005, 02:03 PM) I do agree that the manga is better then the Anime! But I have those cool Japanese ones that actually have accurate subtitles, and Goku did say to Vegeta he could've beat Buu if he went all out just like the manga said. Also when I hear FP that agitates me! When he is SSJ x3 he is at full power, because it takes alot of damn Ki to transform anyway. I still think it would have been rather tough to do that though! Goku would have to probably do a Ultimate Super Kame-Hame-Ha or something like that, because the samething that kept happening to Gotenks would happen to Goku. Buu would keep forming, and they would keep losing Ki energy. [snapback]459227[/snapback] It wouldn't be all that tough if Goku just pulled Super Dragon Fist out of his ass, but instead they had to make him do the ghei Genkai Dama one more time, where as Super Dragon Fist would've been a better finish to the fight, since it would be like the end of movie 13 when Goku destroys Hildegarn, only he destroys a main villian. __________________ - My official DBZ fanfiction.

09-14-2005	#32 (permalink)
.Evil Vegeta (9) Namekian Warrior Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 109 Rep Power: 4	Was Super Saiya-Jin X3 Goku stronger then Fat Buu I agree with that. I don't think he even knew the technique at that time. I am also not sure if that would have destroyed him theorally. Buu would just form back again, and again. Oh yeah I forgot that the DragonFist distengrates the enemy as well. I still don't think that would good enough though! Maybe if he did Ultimate Kame-Hame-Ha and blew him into those little pieces that float around, and then fired another one at the pieces, that would have obliverated him for good.

09-14-2005	#33 (permalink)
GikuHonishimo (20) Super Saiyan 2 Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: I live behind closed eyes Posts: 1,236 Rep Power: 5	Was Super Saiya-Jin X3 Goku stronger then Fat Buu QUOTE(Evil Vegeta @ Sep 13 2005, 02:03 PM) I do agree that the manga is better then the Anime! But I have those cool Japanese ones that actually have accurate subtitles, and Goku did say to Vegeta he could've beat Buu if he went all out just like the manga said. Also when I hear FP that agitates me! When he is SSJ x3 he is at full power, because it takes alot of damn Ki to transform anyway. I still think it would have been rather tough to do that though! Goku would have to probably do a Ultimate Super Kame-Hame-Ha or something like that, because the samething that kept happening to Gotenks would happen to Goku. Buu would keep forming, and they would keep losing Ki energy. [snapback]459227[/snapback] Truthfully he starts out at full power, yes you are correct, but it is drained rather swiftly, and so that is where people get the term FPSSJ3, in which Goku suddenly gets an ability to go to a maximum power he originally started at. If Goku were to do any type of Kamehameha, it should've been the one he was about to Kill San-Shenron with, in which he named something like the Final Kamehameha, unfortuantely he never got to use it, but that looked like it was going to be powerful. Or maybe in SSJ3 Goku should've gotten the ability to multiply his kamehameha 5 times over (another only good thing that came out of GT) __________________ - My official DBZ fanfiction.

09-14-2005	#34 (permalink)
Nova Shenron (12) Saiyan Prince Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 226 Rep Power: 4	Was Super Saiya-Jin X3 Goku stronger then Fat Buu QUOTE You just said manga scans are valid anywhere, right? So in this case the manga refutes the anime (look at my manga scans on page 1). This is the anime section, so in this case you are saying the anime prevails? Make up your mind please QUOTE The manga prevails, not the anime. And if you read the part with Kid Buu Goku will distinctively say "I probably could've beaten Fat Buu as a Super Saiya-jin 3, but I wanted to let the kids have a chance" or something to that extent, I'd have to go read it to get the exact line. LOL how many times must this be done. ANIME IS THE LAW. Manga holds no grounds in the Anime section because it is the ANIME that is under discussion not the Manga. How do you people not understand that?

09-14-2005	#35 (permalink)
.Evil Vegeta (9) Namekian Warrior Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 109 Rep Power: 4	Was Super Saiya-Jin X3 Goku stronger then Fat Buu I know which one your talking about! Goku's Jubei Kame-Hame-Ha, A.K.A 10x in the dub. I think only Goku as a Super Saiya-Jin X4 can do that attack. I know if he had the chance to use that one, it would probably erase Buu completely, but that's a matter of opinion. Maybe DragonFist would have got rid of him though! Another thing, what do you mean why can't we understand? It's not much to understand if you have at least half a brain. The Manga is alot more accurate, and better then the Anime. I am not trying to knock the Anime though, because I have nearly all of the Anime's, and Manga's.

09-14-2005	#36 (permalink)
Nova Shenron (12) Saiyan Prince Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 226 Rep Power: 4	Was Super Saiya-Jin X3 Goku stronger then Fat Buu lol yea and it EVERY other section Manga overrules Anime but in this section Anime is everything and manga is nothing but scrap paper

09-14-2005	#37 (permalink)
.Evil Vegeta (9) Namekian Warrior Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 109 Rep Power: 4	Was Super Saiya-Jin X3 Goku stronger then Fat Buu Oh well, that's simply your opinion. I like both so it really doesn't matter to me one way or another, and there is no point of debating it! The manga is better and that's a fact, but the Anime is great as well. Anyway's let's get back on topic. I don't believe in a Full Power Super Saiya-Jin x3. As a SSJ x3 he is at full strength. That's why it's so hard to stay in that form. It would never give Goku the proper opportunity to finish off a superior villian!?

09-14-2005	#38 (permalink)
GikuHonishimo (20) Super Saiyan 2 Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: I live behind closed eyes Posts: 1,236 Rep Power: 5	Was Super Saiya-Jin X3 Goku stronger then Fat Buu QUOTE(Nova Shenron @ Sep 13 2005, 07:15 PM) lol yea and it EVERY other section Manga overrules Anime but in this section Anime is everything and manga is nothing but scrap paper [snapback]459426[/snapback] LOL, OMG, YOU'RE AN IDIOT!!!! There is no rule that states that this is an anime is the law section. MANGA IS LAW OVER ALL, and don't you ever forget it. People have been putting manga scans in here for as long as I've been around and it's been perfectly fine. Noobs like yourself need to know that the manga is fact and the anime is plothol'd. Thank you and good day sir. __________________ - My official DBZ fanfiction.

09-14-2005	#39 (permalink)
DK64_MASTER (12) Saiyan Prince Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 212 Rep Power: 4	Was Super Saiya-Jin X3 Goku stronger then Fat Buu This topic should have been put in General Discussion in the first place. Did anyone of you guys think of that? I don't see anything special relating to the anime in the topic, so it should go in GD. It was the original poster's mistake. He wants proof, but we can't provide manga proof, since it is the wrong section. How can you be selective about proof?

09-14-2005	#40 (permalink)
.Evil Vegeta (9) Namekian Warrior Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 109 Rep Power: 4	Was Super Saiya-Jin X3 Goku stronger then Fat Buu Listen I made a mistake in posting the topic right here, okay! You don't have to come off like a complete jackass. Anyway if it's not relevant, or pertaining to anything you care about ignore it. It's not that tough of an assignment! Just simply don't post in the topic!! Anyway how did Goku even learn how to power-up to Super Saiya-Jin x3, from different kai's, who shouldn't even know that much about Super Saiya-Jins!?

09-14-2005	#41 (permalink)
GikuHonishimo (20) Super Saiyan 2 Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: I live behind closed eyes Posts: 1,236 Rep Power: 5	Was Super Saiya-Jin X3 Goku stronger then Fat Buu QUOTE(Evil Vegeta @ Sep 13 2005, 07:59 PM) Listen I made a mistake in posting the topic right here, okay! You don't have to come off like a complete jackass. Anyway if it's not relevant, or pertaining to anything you care about ignore it. It's not that tough of an assignment! Just simply don't post in the topic!! Anyway how did Goku even learn how to power-up to Super Saiya-Jin x3, from different kai's, who shouldn't even know that much about Super Saiya-Jins!? [snapback]459462[/snapback] The fact is Goku learnt Super Saiya-jin 3 while training in the otherworld, as he states himself obviously. I had a friend who argued with me that he might've gotten it in movie 12, which I find utterly repulsive since it's just ridicolus. QUOTE Listen I made a mistake in posting the topic right here, okay! You don't have to come off like a complete jackass. Anyway if it's not relevant, or pertaining to anything you care about ignore it. It's not that tough of an assignment! Just simply don't post in the topic!! He was talking to the idiots like Nova Shenron who were like ANIME IS THE LAW when this topic doesn't even belong here, not you. __________________ - My official DBZ fanfiction.

09-14-2005	#42 (permalink)
DK64_MASTER (12) Saiyan Prince Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 212 Rep Power: 4	Was Super Saiya-Jin X3 Goku stronger then Fat Buu QUOTE(Evil Vegeta @ Sep 13 2005, 05:59 PM) Listen I made a mistake in posting the topic right here, okay! You don't have to come off like a complete jackass. Anyway if it's not relevant, or pertaining to anything you care about ignore it. It's not that tough of an assignment! Just simply don't post in the topic!! Anyway how did Goku even learn how to power-up to Super Saiya-Jin x3, from different kai's, who shouldn't even know that much about Super Saiya-Jins!? [snapback]459462[/snapback] Hey, I'm sorry, I was just trying to make myself heard over Nova Shenron and Giku (mainly Shenron, lol). I didn't mean to flame you. I just put the font on the largest, didn't know it would be that loud. So if you put it here, you should put a sign or an edit on the front page of this topic saying it is OK to use manga scans. That would clear up this whole debate. QUOTE(GikuHonishimo @ Sep 13 2005, 06:03 PM) He was talking to the idiots like Nova Shenron who were like ANIME IS THE LAW when this topic doesn't even belong here, not you. [snapback]459469[/snapback] Yep that is correct.

09-14-2005	#43 (permalink)
.Evil Vegeta (9) Namekian Warrior Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 109 Rep Power: 4	Was Super Saiya-Jin X3 Goku stronger then Fat Buu Oh sorry. I thought you were just trying to be smart, but I understand now. I am really glad you are directing your attack towards that imbecile! He is an annoying moron Nova.

09-14-2005	#44 (permalink)
GikuHonishimo (20) Super Saiyan 2 Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: I live behind closed eyes Posts: 1,236 Rep Power: 5	Was Super Saiya-Jin X3 Goku stronger then Fat Buu Yes he is annoying, and it's people like him that may be the reason I leave this forum. I can see why everyone is leaving because of noobs, they're not running away, they're being forced out because they can't take it anymore. Just like I can barely take these idiots anymore, it's ridicolus. __________________ - My official DBZ fanfiction.

09-14-2005	#45 (permalink)
.Evil Vegeta (9) Namekian Warrior Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 109 Rep Power: 4	Was Super Saiya-Jin X3 Goku stronger then Fat Buu Ignore him man! It's just a little punk who think's he is a know it all. Don't leave forums because of one fool! Anyway how much stronger was SSJ x3, then Mystic Gohan. I keep hearing Gohan was stronger, however I am not quite sure.