.jiggyfly

if piccolo was a saiyan he would be stronger than goku!

Anonymous

Maybe, but he is not a Saiyan. Still Piccolo is more badass

Chilli

Vegeta's actually one of the smartest fighters but his weakness is his arrogance (refering to earlier comment). Saying goku is the worst fighter in the anime would be a bit overexaggerated. realistically he's one of the best. i do agree tho that piccolo would be extremely strong if he was a saiyan but he wouldnt have the advantage of regeneration

sportsfreak99

well of course he's strong, he fights his own battles,and he's brave.

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QUOTE(Super Vegeta @ Jun 16 2005, 02:11 PM)
Vegeta's actually one of the smartest fighters but his weakness is his arrogance (refering to earlier comment). Saying goku is the worst fighter in the anime would be a bit overexaggerated. realistically he's one of the best. i do agree tho that piccolo would be extremely strong if he was a saiyan but he wouldnt have the advantage of regeneration


but if he was a saiyan he would not need regeneration

.Vegitto The Ultimate Fusion

I pick stong cause look even if you think goku is a bad fighter htere are much worse fighters look at any of friezas hencmaen

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QUOTE(jiggyfly @ Jun 8 2005, 10:50 PM)
if you notice, in the anime goku cant fight for him self. i mean in the fight with radits he had to have piccolo help him. then they went gangsta and had goku hold raddits si piccolo could kill him. against vegeta goku had to have gohan and i think krillin fight for him after vegeta beat the hell out of him. same with friza piccolo had to help. against cell gohan had to kill him. against buu first he had gotenks fight him, then gohan, then he had to fuze with vegeta. then him and vegeta had to fight kid buu...then fat buu had to fight him. so i say goku is a bad fighter. the only way he can win is to either power up, like with vegeta, he had to do kioken, while vegeta was fighting normal.


yeah but goku is one of the strongst. he wasent that strong when he fought radditz of friza

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I'd say by the end of DBZ, Goku is one of the strongest fighters. Yes, against Radditz, he needed Piccolo's help. He thrashed Nappa, but needed help from Krillin and Gohan to beat Vegeta. He beat Frieza on his own steam, I believe. As for Cell...eh, Goku may have "lost" to him, but it wasn't an absolute loss. And yeah, he needed LOTS of help with Buu.

For Cell and Buu, Goku was at the stage where he wanted the planet to learn how to defend themselves. Hence, why he didn't come back after he died due to Cell. Yes, he didn't want his enemies being attracted to Earth because of him, but he also wanted to see how Earth would cope in his absence.

Goku, as a one-on-one fighter, is easily one of the strongest fighters in DBZ. Yes, he gets help when he needs it...just look at the Spirit Bomb or Team Kamehameha. But that shouldn't make him seem weak.

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SweetVidel

Goku could have killed Fat Buu when i went SSJ3 but he was only there to buy some time. He Wanted Trunks and Goten to save the earth.

You can't say that Goku is a bad fighter because he need some help sometimes. Vegeta couldn't do it better without help either.

"jiggyfly.... Kioken is a powerup/technique so why shouldn't Goku use it ?"

.Dragonball_Legacy

QUOTE(gogeta the super fusion @ Jun 10 2005, 02:58 AM)
Piccolo is a batter fighter cause he sacrificed his power to save the Earth and we never see him on Earth again!!! If piccolo was a Saiyan he would be the better fighter than Vegeta.



To be honest I thought that was Piccolo's attempt to get out of DBGT storyline before they screw him over. LOL

.DannyPhantomfan

I'd have to say Chou Gohan is the strongest. But Goku is one of the smartest fighters and is pretty strong.

The Strike

goku is not the strongest but he is not weak

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QUOTE(Videl4Ever @ Jun 20 2005, 09:49 AM)
Goku could have killed Fat Buu when i went SSJ3 but he was only there to buy some time. He Wanted Trunks and Goten to save the earth.

You can't say that Goku is a bad fighter because he need some help sometimes. Vegeta couldn't do it better without help either.

"jiggyfly.... Kioken is a powerup/technique so why shouldn't Goku use it ?"



Techniques are classified as being attack, defensive, and otherwise.

Kaioken isn't a technique because it does not follow as one.

Technique = method, system, practice, performance, skill, or procedure.

Is Kaioken a method?

Is Kaioken a system?

Is Kaioken a practice?

Is Kaioken a performance?

Is Kaioken a procedure?


Let me answer this one for you....
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Is Kaioken a skill? Well let's define, skill...

Skill = ability, talent, proficiency.

Well an ability can be a power.

Kaioken therefore could be an ability, but it doesn't constitute to follow through all the way to technique.

Therefore, Kaioken is an ability, but not a technique.

Have you ever heard of a technique that increases all of your strength and so forth.

Transformations are abilities and so is Kaioken.

So it isn't wrong to consider Kaioken as a transformation, since transforming is an ability.

Transform = alter, change.

An innerself invoked physical alteration is a transformation.

Kaioken is an innerself invoked physical alteration.

Gangsta SabZ

That poll wasnt really a gud choice. He cud be strong and ppl cud think hes the worst character. Oh well... I think he is strong and is one of the best in the anime.

SweetVidel

QUOTE(Dragonball_Legacy @ Jun 22 2005, 11:26 PM)
QUOTE(Videl4Ever @ Jun 20 2005, 09:49 AM)
Goku could have killed Fat Buu when i went SSJ3 but he was only there to buy some time. He Wanted Trunks and Goten to save the earth.

You can't say that Goku is a bad fighter because he need some help sometimes. Vegeta couldn't do it better without help either.

"jiggyfly.... Kioken is a powerup/technique so why shouldn't Goku use it ?"



Techniques are classified as being attack, defensive, and otherwise.

Kaioken isn't a technique because it does not follow as one.

Technique = method, system, practice, performance, skill, or procedure.

Is Kaioken a method?

Is Kaioken a system?

Is Kaioken a practice?

Is Kaioken a performance?

Is Kaioken a procedure?


Let me answer this one for you....
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Is Kaioken a skill? Well let's define, skill...

Skill = ability, talent, proficiency.

Well an ability can be a power.

Kaioken therefore could be an ability, but it doesn't constitute to follow through all the way to technique.

Therefore, Kaioken is an ability, but not a technique.

Have you ever heard of a technique that increases all of your strength and so forth.

Transformations are abilities and so is Kaioken.

So it isn't wrong to consider Kaioken as a transformation, since transforming is an ability.

Transform = alter, change.

An innerself invoked physical alteration is a transformation.

Kaioken is an innerself invoked physical alteration.



so i did choose wrong word ? what's the big problem ?... he understood what i meant i hope