trunks & goten plus tail

.Future_Trunks · 05-29-2005

lets go back a bit to dbz..we all know that goten and trunks are not even ussj and some people say that they are not even full power ssj..but they are stronger than the andriods..anyway thats not the case here..when goten and trunks fused they were able to form ssj3 gotenks..

these two are not even ultra super sayins and they reached ssj3 by just fusing togther..now lets say that goten and trunks trained in the HBTC and they some how reached ssj2! and then lets say that they went to the old kai planet and he gave them somthing..lets say a capsule that made them grow their tail...

now ssj2 plus tail and then they both fuse into gotenks!

now my question is how strong gotenks plus tail.. will he be stronger than buu/gohan or maybe stronger than baby vegeta?

ofcourse gotenks can go ssj3 and this time it will be easier on goten and trunks since they've reached ssj2 and they have the tail to control their energy

dragontigerviper · 05-29-2005

err i don't really get what your saying, but i don't think so, super buu gohan would still take out goten.

GikuHonishimo · 05-29-2005

Super Saiyan 3 Gotenks with a tail would probably be equivilate to himself absorbed in Super Buu, but Super Buu Gohan would win no-hands down, and he would've probably had a better chance of annhilating just the Super Buu norm.

.majin-warrior · 05-29-2005

QUOTE(dragontigerviper @ May 29 2005, 03:07 AM)
err i don't really get what your saying, but i don't think so, super buu gohan would still take out goten.

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I agree with you...
Super Sayan 3 Gotrenks plus tail would probably be equal to Super Buu + Super Sayan 3 Gotrenks with no tail...

Other question now..
why did Goten and Trunks didn't born with a tail? It was becausa when they were made, neither Goku or Vegeta had a tail? This could be obvioustly but i never knew the answer to this question.

GikuHonishimo · 05-29-2005

QUOTE(majin-warrior @ May 29 2005, 04:59 AM)
QUOTE(dragontigerviper @ May 29 2005, 03:07 AM)
err i don't really get what your saying, but i don't think so, super buu gohan would still take out goten.

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I agree with you...
Super Sayan 3 Gotrenks plus tail would probably be equal to Super Buu + Super Sayan 3 Gotrenks with no tail...

Other question now..
why did Goten and Trunks didn't born with a tail? It was becausa when they were made, neither Goku or Vegeta had a tail? This could be obvioustly but i never knew the answer to this question.

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All saiyans and half saiyans are born with tails, this is made obvious when Gohan is born with one. There is nothing in the anime or manga that states they were born without a tail.

.majin-warrior · 05-29-2005

But there isn't also nothing that state that they borned with one!
I never saw Son Goten or Trunks talking about that! You could say that probably their mother cutt them out... But, in the case of Trunks, for example, I think that Vegeta would not approve that idea, at all.
And, as I had explained in the other post, I think that is the explanation for the earlier transformation in SSJ.

**Darkprince410** · 05-29-2005

QUOTE(GikuHonishimo @ May 29 2005, 09:16 AM)
QUOTE(majin-warrior @ May 29 2005, 04:59 AM)
QUOTE(dragontigerviper @ May 29 2005, 03:07 AM)
err i don't really get what your saying, but i don't think so, super buu gohan would still take out goten.

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I agree with you...
Super Sayan 3 Gotrenks plus tail would probably be equal to Super Buu + Super Sayan 3 Gotrenks with no tail...

Other question now..
why did Goten and Trunks didn't born with a tail? It was becausa when they were made, neither Goku or Vegeta had a tail? This could be obvioustly but i never knew the answer to this question.

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All saiyans and half saiyans are born with tails, this is made obvious when Gohan is born with one. There is nothing in the anime or manga that states they were born without a tail.

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Toriyama stated in an interview that the gene responsible for the formation of the tail is recessive, so it's very possible that they were just born without them.

.Future_Trunks · 05-30-2005

guys the question is very easy..here let me say it to you in an easier way..

we all know that goten and trunks are NOT ssj2..they are only ssj and when they did the fusion they became gotenks as ssj3!

now imagine that goten can turn to ssj2 and so does trunks..

now ssj2 goten and ssj2 trunks fuse togther to form gotenks..how strong gotenks will be since now both goten and trunks are not just ssj1 but they can turn to ssj2 aswell..

oh and don't forget the tail..

Crispy Bacon · 05-30-2005

They wouldn't have tails to begin with according to the Dragonball series or Gohan would have regrown his tail after the Freeza ordeal. First off Baby Vegeta is weaker than Buu with Gohan and secondly having a tail doesn't give a huge increase.

But if Goten and Trunks could turn SSj2 and then fuse it would make Gotenks actually weaker because time would have been wasted on transforming into SSj2s and not working on making Gotenks stronger. Gotenks then wouldn't be a SSj3 but only a SSj2.

.Future_Trunks · 05-30-2005

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But if Goten and Trunks could turn SSj2 and then fuse it would make Gotenks actually weaker because time would have been wasted on transforming into SSj2s and not working on making Gotenks stronger. Gotenks then wouldn't be a SSj3 but only a SSj2.

well ssj2 gogeta is stronger than gotenks ssj3 or goku ssj3...and thats because both goku and vegeta can turn to ssj2

Crispy Bacon · 05-30-2005

The reason Gotenks is strong is beacause Goten and Trunks worked on training Gotenks and not themselves so if they were to train themselves instead Gotenks would be weaker.

.Future_Trunks · 05-30-2005

QUOTE(Bacon @ May 30 2005, 02:52 PM)
The reason Gotenks is strong is beacause Goten and Trunks worked on training Gotenks and not themselves so if they were to train themselves instead Gotenks would be weaker.

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when training as gotenks and then when they defuse..wouldn't goten and trunks become also stronger since goten and trunks are gotenks

.gogeta the super fusion · 06-02-2005

fusion is a very complicated thing. each fusion is a different person almost. They wouldn't get stronger if they only trained in Gotenks form. But if they trained WIthout fusioning Goten and Trunks could've became stronger.

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.Future_Trunks (22) Super Saiyan 3 Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 1,959 Rep Power: 6	trunks & goten plus tail lets go back a bit to dbz..we all know that goten and trunks are not even ussj and some people say that they are not even full power ssj..but they are stronger than the andriods..anyway thats not the case here..when goten and trunks fused they were able to form ssj3 gotenks.. these two are not even ultra super sayins and they reached ssj3 by just fusing togther..now lets say that goten and trunks trained in the HBTC and they some how reached ssj2! and then lets say that they went to the old kai planet and he gave them somthing..lets say a capsule that made them grow their tail... now ssj2 plus tail and then they both fuse into gotenks! now my question is how strong gotenks plus tail.. will he be stronger than buu/gohan or maybe stronger than baby vegeta? ofcourse gotenks can go ssj3 and this time it will be easier on goten and trunks since they've reached ssj2 and they have the tail to control their energy

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dragontigerviper Shit Poster Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Pennsylvanian Posts: 1,442 Blog Entries: 1 Rep Power: 37	trunks & goten plus tail err i don't really get what your saying, but i don't think so, super buu gohan would still take out goten. __________________ Join The MFG Pokemon Battle Club http://anime.myfavoritegames.com/group.php?groupid=87 9 out of 10 MFGers think that Orancello is SSJJason. If you are one of the 1 in 10 that don't, copy this and put it in your sig.

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GikuHonishimo (20) Super Saiyan 2 Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: I live behind closed eyes Posts: 1,236 Rep Power: 5	trunks & goten plus tail Super Saiyan 3 Gotenks with a tail would probably be equivilate to himself absorbed in Super Buu, but Super Buu Gohan would win no-hands down, and he would've probably had a better chance of annhilating just the Super Buu norm. __________________ - My official DBZ fanfiction.

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.majin-warrior (8) Saiyan Warrior Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 88 Rep Power: 4	trunks & goten plus tail QUOTE(dragontigerviper @ May 29 2005, 03:07 AM) err i don't really get what your saying, but i don't think so, super buu gohan would still take out goten. [snapback]365812[/snapback] I agree with you... Super Sayan 3 Gotrenks plus tail would probably be equal to Super Buu + Super Sayan 3 Gotrenks with no tail... Other question now.. why did Goten and Trunks didn't born with a tail? It was becausa when they were made, neither Goku or Vegeta had a tail? This could be obvioustly but i never knew the answer to this question.

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GikuHonishimo (20) Super Saiyan 2 Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: I live behind closed eyes Posts: 1,236 Rep Power: 5	trunks & goten plus tail QUOTE(majin-warrior @ May 29 2005, 04:59 AM) QUOTE(dragontigerviper @ May 29 2005, 03:07 AM) err i don't really get what your saying, but i don't think so, super buu gohan would still take out goten. [snapback]365812[/snapback] I agree with you... Super Sayan 3 Gotrenks plus tail would probably be equal to Super Buu + Super Sayan 3 Gotrenks with no tail... Other question now.. why did Goten and Trunks didn't born with a tail? It was becausa when they were made, neither Goku or Vegeta had a tail? This could be obvioustly but i never knew the answer to this question. [snapback]365862[/snapback] All saiyans and half saiyans are born with tails, this is made obvious when Gohan is born with one. There is nothing in the anime or manga that states they were born without a tail. __________________ - My official DBZ fanfiction.

05-29-2005	#6 (permalink)
.majin-warrior (8) Saiyan Warrior Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 88 Rep Power: 4	trunks & goten plus tail But there isn't also nothing that state that they borned with one! I never saw Son Goten or Trunks talking about that! You could say that probably their mother cutt them out... But, in the case of Trunks, for example, I think that Vegeta would not approve that idea, at all. And, as I had explained in the other post, I think that is the explanation for the earlier transformation in SSJ.

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Darkprince410 Moderator Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Ohio, United States Posts: 3,009 Rep Power: 53	trunks & goten plus tail QUOTE(GikuHonishimo @ May 29 2005, 09:16 AM) QUOTE(majin-warrior @ May 29 2005, 04:59 AM) QUOTE(dragontigerviper @ May 29 2005, 03:07 AM) err i don't really get what your saying, but i don't think so, super buu gohan would still take out goten. [snapback]365812[/snapback] I agree with you... Super Sayan 3 Gotrenks plus tail would probably be equal to Super Buu + Super Sayan 3 Gotrenks with no tail... Other question now.. why did Goten and Trunks didn't born with a tail? It was becausa when they were made, neither Goku or Vegeta had a tail? This could be obvioustly but i never knew the answer to this question. [snapback]365862[/snapback] All saiyans and half saiyans are born with tails, this is made obvious when Gohan is born with one. There is nothing in the anime or manga that states they were born without a tail. [snapback]365868[/snapback] Toriyama stated in an interview that the gene responsible for the formation of the tail is recessive, so it's very possible that they were just born without them. __________________

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.Future_Trunks (22) Super Saiyan 3 Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 1,959 Rep Power: 6	trunks & goten plus tail guys the question is very easy..here let me say it to you in an easier way.. we all know that goten and trunks are NOT ssj2..they are only ssj and when they did the fusion they became gotenks as ssj3! now imagine that goten can turn to ssj2 and so does trunks.. now ssj2 goten and ssj2 trunks fuse togther to form gotenks..how strong gotenks will be since now both goten and trunks are not just ssj1 but they can turn to ssj2 aswell.. oh and don't forget the tail..

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Crispy Bacon (24) Super Saiyan 4 Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 3,204 Rep Power: 8	trunks & goten plus tail They wouldn't have tails to begin with according to the Dragonball series or Gohan would have regrown his tail after the Freeza ordeal. First off Baby Vegeta is weaker than Buu with Gohan and secondly having a tail doesn't give a huge increase. But if Goten and Trunks could turn SSj2 and then fuse it would make Gotenks actually weaker because time would have been wasted on transforming into SSj2s and not working on making Gotenks stronger. Gotenks then wouldn't be a SSj3 but only a SSj2. __________________

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.Future_Trunks (22) Super Saiyan 3 Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 1,959 Rep Power: 6	trunks & goten plus tail QUOTE But if Goten and Trunks could turn SSj2 and then fuse it would make Gotenks actually weaker because time would have been wasted on transforming into SSj2s and not working on making Gotenks stronger. Gotenks then wouldn't be a SSj3 but only a SSj2. well ssj2 gogeta is stronger than gotenks ssj3 or goku ssj3...and thats because both goku and vegeta can turn to ssj2

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Crispy Bacon (24) Super Saiyan 4 Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 3,204 Rep Power: 8	trunks & goten plus tail The reason Gotenks is strong is beacause Goten and Trunks worked on training Gotenks and not themselves so if they were to train themselves instead Gotenks would be weaker. __________________

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.Future_Trunks (22) Super Saiyan 3 Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 1,959 Rep Power: 6	trunks & goten plus tail QUOTE(Bacon @ May 30 2005, 02:52 PM) The reason Gotenks is strong is beacause Goten and Trunks worked on training Gotenks and not themselves so if they were to train themselves instead Gotenks would be weaker. [snapback]366646[/snapback] when training as gotenks and then when they defuse..wouldn't goten and trunks become also stronger since goten and trunks are gotenks

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.gogeta the super fusion (24) Super Saiyan 4 Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 3,202 Rep Power: 8	trunks & goten plus tail fusion is a very complicated thing. each fusion is a different person almost. They wouldn't get stronger if they only trained in Gotenks form. But if they trained WIthout fusioning Goten and Trunks could've became stronger.