Goten and Trunks

.True_Saiyan11 · 05-29-2005

Why were they able to reach the Super Saiyan level at such a young age? I know it's probably an obvious answer but I really never got to see those great saiyaman and world tournament episodes.

Chilli · 05-29-2005

goten went ss from training with chichi and it didnt show how trunks became ss.
i thought it was too easy, myself

.futuregohan · 05-29-2005

It didn't show trunks super saiyan but i suppose vegeta got him mad so he went up. but thery aren't as powerful as gohan which I think is stupid but then Goku didn't train him very much so...

.Son Gohan · 05-29-2005

Actually it doesn't show when Goten and Trunks go Super Saiya-Jin for the first time. Goten is shown becoming a Super Saiya-jin while sparing with Chi-Chi, but that doesn't mean it was his first time. Trunks is shown becoming a Super Saiya-jin while training with Vegeta in the Gravitron Chamber, but that doesn't mean it was his first time either.

.Future_Trunks · 05-29-2005

QUOTE(Son Gohan @ May 28 2005, 10:28 PM)
Actually it doesn't show when Goten and Trunks go Super Saiya-Jin for the first time. Goten is shown becoming a Super Saiya-jin while sparing with Chi-Chi, but that doesn't mean it was his first time. Trunks is shown becoming a Super Saiya-jin while training with Vegeta in the Gravitron Chamber, but that doesn't mean it was his first time either.

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ya thats right..infact goten tells chichi that he has the ability to do so..or as chichi says it..another monster (referring to a super sayin)

USSj Goku · 05-29-2005

That part where Chi Chi is sparring with Goten is filler.

It couldn't of been Trunks first time going Super Saiyan in the Gravity chamber with Vegeta because he says that he will just go super when he was having troubles walking in the gravity chamber in base, so he must of known about his SSJ ablilty before that.

evirus · 05-29-2005

ussjgoku is right... its either mentioned or infered that it wasnt trunks first time transforming... to far back for me to remember

dragontigerviper · 05-29-2005

i always thought it was stupid that they could become super sayin. i can see gohan, he had for a long time been worked up to it with the saying + human = really really strong. but trunks and goten were just transformed way too soon.

.True_Saiyan11 · 05-29-2005

So this means that Goten is way stronger then kid goku and kid gohan?

USSj Goku · 05-29-2005

Goten is easily alot stronger than Kid Goku from DB, but Goten is weaker than Kid Gohan, Gohan achieved Super Saiyan 2 when he was still a kid.

**Darkprince410** · 05-29-2005

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Goten is easily alot stronger than Kid Goku from DB, but Goten is weaker than Kid Gohan, Gohan achieved Super Saiyan 2 when he was still a kid.

However, Goten was far stronger than Gohan was when he was Goten's age.

GikuHonishimo · 05-29-2005

QUOTE(Darkprince410 @ May 29 2005, 02:04 AM)
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Goten is easily alot stronger than Kid Goku from DB, but Goten is weaker than Kid Gohan, Gohan achieved Super Saiyan 2 when he was still a kid.

However, Goten was far stronger than Gohan was when he was Goten's age.

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I have to agree, a 7 year old Gohan may have been somewhere around 1,500,000 or something, but a 7 year old Goten easily surpasses that being somewhere around 40,000,000 at least (has to be around there, able to compete with a Base Gohan with quite a bit of difficulty, but take the super saiyan bit is a whole other story.)

.majin-warrior · 05-29-2005

I have always considered that a little bit stupid!
Yes, it´s very cool to watch them, so young, super sayans but it doesn't make mutch sense...
Probably, Goten was stronger than Goten with the same age, but Gohan is strongest, in potencial. The potencial of Gohan is higher than Goten's. So, it is strange the way they come to super sayan so earlier.
May be they should come to super sayan only during Buu saga, in a fight or something. For example, when Vegeta was aslmost dying during the fight with Majin Buu and Trunks is watching, it was a good oportunity to do that...

GikuHonishimo · 05-29-2005

QUOTE(majin-warrior @ May 29 2005, 04:53 AM)
I have always considered that a little bit stupid!
Yes, it´s very cool to watch them, so young, super sayans but it doesn't make mutch sense...
Probably, Goten was stronger than Goten with the same age, but Gohan is strongest, in potencial. The potencial of Gohan is higher than Goten's. So, it is strange the way they come to super sayan so earlier.
May be they should come to super sayan only during Buu saga, in a fight or something. For example, when Vegeta was aslmost dying during the fight with Majin Buu and Trunks is watching, it was a good oportunity to do that...

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There are a couple of theories about this that I'd like to point out. First of all Majin, we distinctively see Trunks go SSJ while training in the gravitational chamber with Vegeta. The theories are as follow, and are not in any particular order:

Goten and Trunks both had their tails cut off at a very young age, and thus this may have had something to do with their transformation, as the others had their tails cut off much, much later.

Vegeta and Goku passed on a special DNA to their sons that allowed them to naturally go Super Saiyan without any previous training.

I believe number 2 is the most correct answer, as it has nothing to do with the tails anyways regardless of transforming, and it's most the conclusive factor, because well, it's true that Vegeta and Goku both could've passed on a special DNA to their sons, that allowed them to naturally go to Super Saiyan state at certain ages, with Goten being the youngest at age 4. It's an interesting conspiracy, and while the idea may seem stupid at first, it actually becomes more interesting because without their natural ability to go SSJ, SSJ3 Gotenks would have never came to life, get the picture?

.majin-warrior · 05-29-2005

Why had Son Goku passed some special DNA to Son Goten and not to Gohan? Remember that Gohan had to train hard in Time Chamber before can transform in SSJ. And he had also more experience than Goten, with the same age.
So, I do not believe in that theory. It's stupid that he only pass the DNA to one of his sons.

Other wise, I believe that your first theory ir parcially right. I think that Goten and Trunks did not born with tails because, when they were made, Son Goku and Vegete hadn't got tails! And that will explain why they could go to SSJ so young - the tail (or the not tail) is the reason!

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.True_Saiyan11 (11) Student of Lord Kaio Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 169 Rep Power: 4	Goten and Trunks Why were they able to reach the Super Saiyan level at such a young age? I know it's probably an obvious answer but I really never got to see those great saiyaman and world tournament episodes.

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Chilli (16) Master of Kaio-ken Join Date: May 2004 Location: England Posts: 529 Rep Power: 8	Goten and Trunks goten went ss from training with chichi and it didnt show how trunks became ss. i thought it was too easy, myself

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.futuregohan (7) Warrior of Earth Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 67 Rep Power: 4	Goten and Trunks It didn't show trunks super saiyan but i suppose vegeta got him mad so he went up. but thery aren't as powerful as gohan which I think is stupid but then Goku didn't train him very much so...

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.Son Gohan (19) Mastered Super Saiyan Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 1,123 Rep Power: 7	Goten and Trunks Actually it doesn't show when Goten and Trunks go Super Saiya-Jin for the first time. Goten is shown becoming a Super Saiya-jin while sparing with Chi-Chi, but that doesn't mean it was his first time. Trunks is shown becoming a Super Saiya-jin while training with Vegeta in the Gravitron Chamber, but that doesn't mean it was his first time either.

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.Future_Trunks (22) Super Saiyan 3 Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 1,959 Rep Power: 6	Goten and Trunks QUOTE(Son Gohan @ May 28 2005, 10:28 PM) Actually it doesn't show when Goten and Trunks go Super Saiya-Jin for the first time. Goten is shown becoming a Super Saiya-jin while sparing with Chi-Chi, but that doesn't mean it was his first time. Trunks is shown becoming a Super Saiya-jin while training with Vegeta in the Gravitron Chamber, but that doesn't mean it was his first time either. [snapback]365723[/snapback] ya thats right..infact goten tells chichi that he has the ability to do so..or as chichi says it..another monster (referring to a super sayin)

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USSj Goku (18) Artificial Human Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Canada Posts: 831 Rep Power: 5	Goten and Trunks That part where Chi Chi is sparring with Goten is filler. It couldn't of been Trunks first time going Super Saiyan in the Gravity chamber with Vegeta because he says that he will just go super when he was having troubles walking in the gravity chamber in base, so he must of known about his SSJ ablilty before that.

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evirus (16) Master of Kaio-ken Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 627 Rep Power: 5	Goten and Trunks ussjgoku is right... its either mentioned or infered that it wasnt trunks first time transforming... to far back for me to remember

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dragontigerviper Shit Poster Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Pennsylvanian Posts: 1,442 Blog Entries: 1 Rep Power: 37	Goten and Trunks i always thought it was stupid that they could become super sayin. i can see gohan, he had for a long time been worked up to it with the saying + human = really really strong. but trunks and goten were just transformed way too soon. __________________ Join The MFG Pokemon Battle Club http://anime.myfavoritegames.com/group.php?groupid=87 9 out of 10 MFGers think that Orancello is SSJJason. If you are one of the 1 in 10 that don't, copy this and put it in your sig.

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.True_Saiyan11 (11) Student of Lord Kaio Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 169 Rep Power: 4	Goten and Trunks So this means that Goten is way stronger then kid goku and kid gohan?

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USSj Goku (18) Artificial Human Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Canada Posts: 831 Rep Power: 5	Goten and Trunks Goten is easily alot stronger than Kid Goku from DB, but Goten is weaker than Kid Gohan, Gohan achieved Super Saiyan 2 when he was still a kid.

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Darkprince410 Moderator Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Ohio, United States Posts: 3,009 Rep Power: 53	Goten and Trunks QUOTE Goten is easily alot stronger than Kid Goku from DB, but Goten is weaker than Kid Gohan, Gohan achieved Super Saiyan 2 when he was still a kid. However, Goten was far stronger than Gohan was when he was Goten's age. __________________

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GikuHonishimo (20) Super Saiyan 2 Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: I live behind closed eyes Posts: 1,236 Rep Power: 5	Goten and Trunks QUOTE(Darkprince410 @ May 29 2005, 02:04 AM) QUOTE Goten is easily alot stronger than Kid Goku from DB, but Goten is weaker than Kid Gohan, Gohan achieved Super Saiyan 2 when he was still a kid. However, Goten was far stronger than Gohan was when he was Goten's age. [snapback]365834[/snapback] I have to agree, a 7 year old Gohan may have been somewhere around 1,500,000 or something, but a 7 year old Goten easily surpasses that being somewhere around 40,000,000 at least (has to be around there, able to compete with a Base Gohan with quite a bit of difficulty, but take the super saiyan bit is a whole other story.) __________________ - My official DBZ fanfiction.

05-29-2005	#13 (permalink)
.majin-warrior (8) Saiyan Warrior Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 88 Rep Power: 4	Goten and Trunks I have always considered that a little bit stupid! Yes, it´s very cool to watch them, so young, super sayans but it doesn't make mutch sense... Probably, Goten was stronger than Goten with the same age, but Gohan is strongest, in potencial. The potencial of Gohan is higher than Goten's. So, it is strange the way they come to super sayan so earlier. May be they should come to super sayan only during Buu saga, in a fight or something. For example, when Vegeta was aslmost dying during the fight with Majin Buu and Trunks is watching, it was a good oportunity to do that...

05-29-2005	#14 (permalink)
GikuHonishimo (20) Super Saiyan 2 Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: I live behind closed eyes Posts: 1,236 Rep Power: 5	Goten and Trunks QUOTE(majin-warrior @ May 29 2005, 04:53 AM) I have always considered that a little bit stupid! Yes, it´s very cool to watch them, so young, super sayans but it doesn't make mutch sense... Probably, Goten was stronger than Goten with the same age, but Gohan is strongest, in potencial. The potencial of Gohan is higher than Goten's. So, it is strange the way they come to super sayan so earlier. May be they should come to super sayan only during Buu saga, in a fight or something. For example, when Vegeta was aslmost dying during the fight with Majin Buu and Trunks is watching, it was a good oportunity to do that... [snapback]365860[/snapback] There are a couple of theories about this that I'd like to point out. First of all Majin, we distinctively see Trunks go SSJ while training in the gravitational chamber with Vegeta. The theories are as follow, and are not in any particular order: Goten and Trunks both had their tails cut off at a very young age, and thus this may have had something to do with their transformation, as the others had their tails cut off much, much later. Vegeta and Goku passed on a special DNA to their sons that allowed them to naturally go Super Saiyan without any previous training. I believe number 2 is the most correct answer, as it has nothing to do with the tails anyways regardless of transforming, and it's most the conclusive factor, because well, it's true that Vegeta and Goku both could've passed on a special DNA to their sons, that allowed them to naturally go to Super Saiyan state at certain ages, with Goten being the youngest at age 4. It's an interesting conspiracy, and while the idea may seem stupid at first, it actually becomes more interesting because without their natural ability to go SSJ, SSJ3 Gotenks would have never came to life, get the picture? __________________ - My official DBZ fanfiction.

05-29-2005	#15 (permalink)
.majin-warrior (8) Saiyan Warrior Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 88 Rep Power: 4	Goten and Trunks Why had Son Goku passed some special DNA to Son Goten and not to Gohan? Remember that Gohan had to train hard in Time Chamber before can transform in SSJ. And he had also more experience than Goten, with the same age. So, I do not believe in that theory. It's stupid that he only pass the DNA to one of his sons. Other wise, I believe that your first theory ir parcially right. I think that Goten and Trunks did not born with tails because, when they were made, Son Goku and Vegete hadn't got tails! And that will explain why they could go to SSJ so young - the tail (or the not tail) is the reason!