GikuHonishimo

QUOTE(gogeta the super fusion @ May 19 2005, 08:40 PM)
Put it in the "was Trunks SS or Ultra saiyan" topic.
Now Bu was not in the time line. I'm sory but cell was the last vilain Trunks faced.



Not necessairly my friend, he could've faced an ever greater foe like the other z fighters. Nyqua put that in the other topic he just made.

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He could've?? I know but since it was not shown we have to asume things based on our opinionsd and i'd say Gotenks would've kiled Buu. Remeber Future Trunks was serious about fighting evil. Then they make a trip to namek. Goten andd Trunks would have to face a lot of Metal coolers. Not even fusion works cause they run out of energy to hold the SS3 form. so they simply need to destroy al the metal coolers or let the nameks rebel and they destro coolers base. But broly hears the explosions. Decides to chalenge Goten because he looks like kakorot. Goten would lose since Ultra saiyan would lose to a hyper Ss. Trunks tries Uss2 but doesn't have enough energy to hold the form. Luckly, Vegeta gets one day to help his son. Vegeta shows off ss2 and kills Broly.

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QUOTE(gogeta the super fusion @ May 19 2005, 08:52 PM)
He could've?? I know but since it was not shown we have to asume things based on our opinionsd and i'd say Gotenks would've kiled Buu. Remeber Future Trunks was serious about fighting evil. Then they make a trip to namek. Goten andd Trunks would have to face a lot of Metal coolers. Not even fusion works cause they run out of energy to hold the SS3 form. so they simply need to destroy al the metal coolers or let the nameks rebel and they destro coolers base. But broly hears the explosions. Decides to chalenge Goten because he looks like kakorot. Goten would lose since Ultra saiyan would lose to a hyper Ss. Trunks tries Uss2 but doesn't have enough energy to hold the form. Luckly, Vegeta gets one day to help his son. Vegeta shows off ss2 and kills Broly.



You're making up a bunch of random stuff and that is really weird, and I can't even make out half of it, think you can be a little more specific please?

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If i did that, i would have to make a fan fic. And we know how slow I post the chapters, don't we??

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QUOTE(gogeta the super fusion @ May 19 2005, 09:09 PM)
If i did that, i would have to make a fan fic. And we know how slow I post the chapters, don't we??



I was kidding when I said that. What I actually meant was that I couldn't understand it, and I needed you to explain it a little more thoroughly, cause it looked like you had some of the timelines mixed up or something. Meta Cooler and Cooler happened well before the androids time. I would say Vegeta had probably just underwent his SSJ transformation on that planet.

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Hello everybody,

firstable, it´s impossible that Gotrenks had killed Majin Buu because Son Goten does not exist at Future Trunks timeline. Son Goten was maden on that days before Cell Games. Other wise, he would happen in the special movie about Future Trunks and Son Gohan would train him too.

Other thing, Metal Cooler cannot be after the andoirds because Dende is God of the Earth and that´s only happen just before the Cell Games, after Perfect Cell.

Now, answering the topic: yes, i think that Majin Buu (or just the ball of Majin Buu) had to exist at Future Trunks timeline.
The fact of Trunks came back to the past and fight against the androids don´t change anything related to Buu!
Dabura is mutch more powerfull than C17 and C18 togehter, so Babidi could easily send him to fight against them and stole their energy. But... that energy isn´t enough. Remember that, on the present timeline, neither the energy of SSJ2 Gohan was enough! And SSJ2 Gohan is mutch more powerfull than 17 and 18.
Might Babidi had to give up of the ideia to woke up Buu... And may be (this is imagation at more) he had tried only at Dabura... Even may be Mirai Trunks had to fight him, I don´t know.
A fight between Dabura and Mirai Trunks... I don´t know who would win... Trunks would probably die on a first time, but i think that a time at the time chamber would be enough to defeat Dabura...

GikuHonishimo

QUOTE(majin-warrior @ May 27 2005, 09:48 AM)
Hello everybody,

firstable, it´s impossible that Gotrenks had killed Majin Buu because Son Goten does not exist at Future Trunks timeline. Son Goten was maden on that days before Cell Games. Other wise, he would happen in the special movie about Future Trunks and Son Gohan would train him too.

Other thing, Metal Cooler cannot be after the andoirds because Dende is God of the Earth and that´s only happen just before the Cell Games, after Perfect Cell.

Now, answering the topic: yes, i think that Majin Buu (or just the ball of Majin Buu) had to exist at Future Trunks timeline.
The fact of Trunks came back to the past and fight against the androids don´t change anything related to Buu!
Dabura is mutch more powerfull than C17 and C18 togehter, so Babidi could easily send him to fight against them and stole their energy. But... that energy isn´t enough. Remember that, on the present timeline, neither the energy of SSJ2 Gohan was enough! And SSJ2 Gohan is mutch more powerfull than 17 and 18.
Might Babidi had to give up of the ideia to woke up Buu... And may be (this is imagation at more) he had tried only at Dabura... Even may be Mirai Trunks had to fight him, I don´t know.
A fight between Dabura and Mirai Trunks... I don´t know who would win... Trunks would probably die on a first time, but i think that a time at the time chamber would be enough to defeat Dabura...



The ball no doubt existed in his timeline, it had to because it existed in the present timeline, that much information we gathered. I believe the part where Babidi had to give up trying to awaken majin buu is the correct theory. Due to the low amounts of energy (All of the z fighters being destroyed) it could've taken Babidi years, maybe even decades for him to gather all of the energy to awaken Majin Buu, thus resulting in him forefeiting the idea because it would be too hard. Oh, and for all the people who think trunks didn't go SSJ2, it never shows whether he did or not, so it just leaves us to wonder whether or not he went SSJ2.

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The problem is... still without Buu, Babidi has creatures, like Dabura (or Yacon), that could easly take control of the world...
The only one who can defeat it is Trunks but I think they're too powerfull for him...

Other possibility is that Trunks, after kill Cell and the androids, went to Namek and Porunga revived the Z fighters... And, in that case, the history would be similiar to the one we know...

GikuHonishimo

QUOTE(majin-warrior @ May 27 2005, 10:03 AM)
The problem is... still without Buu, Babidi has creatures, like Dabura (or Yacon), that could easly take control of the world...
The only one who can defeat it is Trunks but I think they're too powerfull for him...

Other possibility is that Trunks, after kill Cell and the androids, went to Namek and Porunga revived the Z fighters... And, in that case, the history would be similiar to the one we know...



Possible, and probably likely since Trunks could've used a spaceship to get there. The interesting thing is that you stated exactly what I meant, even though Buu wasn't born, he could've faced another potentionally threatening menace like Dabura. Yakon would be easy to defeat because he's around Semi-Perfect Cell's strength from what I know.

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QUOTE(Chibi Mystic Gohan @ May 9 2005, 11:12 PM)
There wasn't enough energy to revive Buu.



It's that simple.

If Babadi even had plans to come back to Earth and ressurrect Majin Buu, than he must've decided not to simply because there was no one powerful enough. Just to revive Majin Buu alone he needed the power of three Super Saiya-Jin 2s, and we all know that the strongest that anyone ever became on Earth in Trunks's timeline is an Ascended Super Saiya-Jin.

.Son Gohan

QUOTE(GikuHonishimo @ May 27 2005, 09:06 AM)
QUOTE(majin-warrior @ May 27 2005, 10:03 AM)
The problem is... still without Buu, Babidi has creatures, like Dabura (or Yacon), that could easly take control of the world...
The only one who can defeat it is Trunks but I think they're too powerfull for him...

Other possibility is that Trunks, after kill Cell and the androids, went to Namek and Porunga revived the Z fighters... And, in that case, the history would be similiar to the one we know...



Possible, and probably likely since Trunks could've used a spaceship to get there. The interesting thing is that you stated exactly what I meant, even though Buu wasn't born, he could've faced another potentionally threatening menace like Dabura. Yakon would be easy to defeat because he's around Semi-Perfect Cell's strength from what I know.



Babadi had no need to come to Earth, so he wouldn't of sent his Henchman. However, if Trunks absolutely had to fight Babadi's Henchman for another reason, Trunks would have ultimately lost. While he would have easily defeated Yamu, Suppovitch, and Pui Pui, he would have no chance against either Yakon or Dabura whatsoever.

May I remind you that Yakon was only destroyed whenever Son Goku ascended himself to Super Saiya-Jin 2 so Yakon exploded from too much light energy. And Dabura went head to head with Super Saiya-Jin 2 Gohan.

GikuHonishimo

QUOTE(Son Gohan @ May 27 2005, 10:31 AM)
QUOTE(GikuHonishimo @ May 27 2005, 09:06 AM)
QUOTE(majin-warrior @ May 27 2005, 10:03 AM)
The problem is... still without Buu, Babidi has creatures, like Dabura (or Yacon), that could easly take control of the world...
The only one who can defeat it is Trunks but I think they're too powerfull for him...

Other possibility is that Trunks, after kill Cell and the androids, went to Namek and Porunga revived the Z fighters... And, in that case, the history would be similiar to the one we know...



Possible, and probably likely since Trunks could've used a spaceship to get there. The interesting thing is that you stated exactly what I meant, even though Buu wasn't born, he could've faced another potentionally threatening menace like Dabura. Yakon would be easy to defeat because he's around Semi-Perfect Cell's strength from what I know.



Babadi had no need to come to Earth, so he wouldn't of sent his Henchman. However, if Trunks absolutely had to fight Babadi's Henchman for another reason, Trunks would have ultimately lost. While he would have easily defeated Yamu, Suppovitch, and Pui Pui, he would have no chance against either Yakon or Dabura whatsoever.

May I remind you that Yakon was only destroyed whenever Son Goku ascended himself to Super Saiya-Jin 2 so Yakon exploded from too much light energy. And Dabura went head to head with Super Saiya-Jin 2 Gohan.



Eh, I think trunks could've beaten Yakon because he probably kept training harshly so his base form was stronger than Yakon, his ultimate defeat would be at the hands of Dabura, unless somehow trunks ascended to Super Saiyan 2, which were left in the dust on whether or not he ascended.

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QUOTE(Son Gohan @ May 27 2005, 02:28 PM)
QUOTE(Chibi Mystic Gohan @ May 9 2005, 11:12 PM)
There wasn't enough energy to revive Buu.



It's that simple.

If Babadi even had plans to come back to Earth and ressurrect Majin Buu, than he must've decided not to simply because there was no one powerful enough. Just to revive Majin Buu alone he needed the power of three Super Saiya-Jin 2s, and we all know that the strongest that anyone ever became on Earth in Trunks's timeline is an Ascended Super Saiya-Jin.



You´re wrong.
Babidi didn't know that exist on Earth so powerfull warriores like Goku, Gohan and Vegeta. He was impressed with their battles on his spaceship. He also thought that the energy that Yamu and Spopobitch and stolen were from thousands of people. He never imagine that it was only from Son Gohan.
So, Babidi doens´t inform himself when chose Earth for his destiny so, it´s perfectly equal that Son Goku, Son Gohan, Vegeta, Piccolo, etc are alive or not.

.Son Gohan

We know that Goku ascends to Super Saiya-Jin 2 and 3 somewhere around 7 years Earth Time. If we take an average, than he may of reached Super Saiya-Jin 2 in 4 years Earth Time (again, only an estimate based on average). It is unknown of Vegeta could of possibly also reached Super Saiya-Jin 2 during his training in Earth Time since it's guessed that he receives Super Saiya-Jin 2 only when he becomes a Majin. However it's very quite possible that Trunks became a Super Saiya-Jin 2 through years of training.

.majin-warrior

I´m not sure if Trunks had continued training after kill Cell...
He is not Vegeta and all the half sayans we know take a sleep on piece times...