Gohan was SSJ2 in Movie 10 - Page 2

.Dragonball_Legacy · 05-07-2005

QUOTE(Mirai Trunks05 @ May 6 2005, 07:56 PM)
QUOTE(Dragonball_Legacy @ May 6 2005, 02:24 PM)
I thought I made it pretty clear that Gohan was not a super saiyan in the fight against Dabura.

I mean take a look at this..

Here explains why the hair is of no indication for SSJ2

His base form looks like a black hair, black eyed version of the fight with Dabura.

Super Saiyan Gohan

and

Super Saiyan Gohan

Is there a difference, yes! But is there any super saiyan differences, No! They are both just super saiyan.

Gohan's hair changes base on his mood not on his form!!!

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I'm sorry, but this has nothing to do with the topic at hand. This topic discusses Gohan and Movie 10. And besides, the first picture is Chou Gohan from Movie 13.

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I know I would just showwing how hair is not an indication of SSJ2. And since that is brought up that Gohan being an SSJ2 in movie 10, I decided to place this in the better reason why he wasn't an SSJ2.

Mirai Trunks05 Edit: Okay, I understand where you're coming from with your post. But don't continue to talk about Movie 13 since it is off-topic. Thanks.

.Element · 05-08-2005

The only time i saw Gohan at SSJ2 in Buu saga was when he powerd up in the World Tourny Arena in front of Kibito leading to Gohans Energy being Stolen.

This was just after the whole Movie 10 thing imo... the movies don't really co-inside with the sagas too well but im sure that this was just before the World Tournament saga and therefore Gohan was only SSJ against Broly.

.gokusucks · 05-09-2005

He was Super Saiyan 2 when fighting Dabura, and when fighting Fat Buu.

Yeah, I say that Gohan is a Super Saiyan in Movie 10

**Darkprince410** · 05-09-2005

QUOTE(Dragonball_Legacy @ May 6 2005, 07:24 PM)
I thought I made it pretty clear that Gohan was not a super saiyan 2 in the fight against Dabura.

I mean take a look at this..

Here explains why the hair is of no indication for SSJ2

His base form looks like a black hair, black eyed version of the fight with Dabura.

[snapback]351021[/snapback]

Why use a picture of Chou Gohan from Movie 13 when trying to argue a point about something three movies earlier? And you never made it clear that Gohan wasn't Ssj2 when fighting Dabura, because your "proof" was.....horrible, with nothing more than halfass theories and blatant contradictions making them up.

My idea is that Gohan appeared both as an Ssj2 and later as just an Ssj in movie 10, as the collage Mirai Trunks posted showed Ssj Gohan after being beaten around a good deal, so it's possible that Gohan fought Burori as an Ssj2, but was beaten around to the point that he didn't have enough strength to go Ssj2 again, and just went Ssj instead.

.gokusucks · 05-10-2005

But Broly was almost twice as strong as Gohan. If he beat him as a Super Saiyan 2, then he might've been as strong as Super Saiyan 2 Goku, or Majin Vegeta, which we both know is incorrect.

.ZFIGHTER_PAN · 05-10-2005

If I could bring GT into this without being yelled at, I would appreciate it:

If you noticed when Goku Jr. when SSJ the first time in the GT TV movie, he had sparks flaring from his Aura (Just like Gohan did) but Goku Jr. wasn't in SSJ2 mode because his hair would have been like Goku's was in SSJ2. So just flat out saying, Gohan was not in any way in SSJ2 mode in movie 10. He may have almost TRANSFORMED to that state, but not one time did he go SSJ2 in that movie.

Thank You for your time.

Abaddon · 05-11-2005

QUOTE(Darkprince410 @ May 9 2005, 08:08 AM)
QUOTE(Dragonball_Legacy @ May 6 2005, 07:24 PM)
I thought I made it pretty clear that Gohan was not a super saiyan 2 in the fight against Dabura.

I mean take a look at this..

Here explains why the hair is of no indication for SSJ2

His base form looks like a black hair, black eyed version of the fight with Dabura.

[snapback]351021[/snapback]

Why use a picture of Chou Gohan from Movie 13 when trying to argue a point about something three movies earlier? And you never made it clear that Gohan wasn't Ssj2 when fighting Dabura, because your "proof" was.....horrible, with nothing more than halfass theories and blatant contradictions making them up.

My idea is that Gohan appeared both as an Ssj2 and later as just an Ssj in movie 10, as the collage Mirai Trunks posted showed Ssj Gohan after being beaten around a good deal, so it's possible that Gohan fought Burori as an Ssj2, but was beaten around to the point that he didn't have enough strength to go Ssj2 again, and just went Ssj instead.

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he were a ssj2 at dabura.. otherwise goku wouldnt given him the advice he gave him before he fought majin vegeta.. i mean if he just was ssj and was equal to dabura he would win easy so there would be no need to give gohan the advice that he should be angry(pissed)

.Dragonball_Legacy · 05-11-2005

QUOTE(SSJ4_Mikael @ May 10 2005, 05:26 PM)
QUOTE(Darkprince410 @ May 9 2005, 08:08 AM)
QUOTE(Dragonball_Legacy @ May 6 2005, 07:24 PM)
I thought I made it pretty clear that Gohan was not a super saiyan 2 in the fight against Dabura.

I mean take a look at this..

Here explains why the hair is of no indication for SSJ2

His base form looks like a black hair, black eyed version of the fight with Dabura.

[snapback]351021[/snapback]

Why use a picture of Chou Gohan from Movie 13 when trying to argue a point about something three movies earlier? And you never made it clear that Gohan wasn't Ssj2 when fighting Dabura, because your "proof" was.....horrible, with nothing more than halfass theories and blatant contradictions making them up.

My idea is that Gohan appeared both as an Ssj2 and later as just an Ssj in movie 10, as the collage Mirai Trunks posted showed Ssj Gohan after being beaten around a good deal, so it's possible that Gohan fought Burori as an Ssj2, but was beaten around to the point that he didn't have enough strength to go Ssj2 again, and just went Ssj instead.

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he were a ssj2 at dabura.. otherwise goku wouldnt given him the advice he gave him before he fought majin vegeta.. i mean if he just was ssj and was equal to dabura he would win easy so there would be no need to give gohan the advice that he should be angry(pissed)

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My proof was excellent, you're simply a bad critic, dark prince.

And no there are other levels of super saiyan, other than SSJ and SSJ2, you are forgetting about full power SSJ and USSJ.

And just as before MIrai Trunks edited my post so he can hide out the truth on DBZ movies. There is no exact parallel likeness between the series and the movies, because in movie 13, which everyone on the god damn Earth already knows Videl is stronger than Mystic Gohan, which I doubt would actually be Mystic Gohan.

I mean Dark Prince, I don't see you do anything, but sit their and complain criticize with the maturity of a two year old. But if you want to be the way you are, then fine, I do not care.

Here is my true proof:

Obviously Gohan before he got some of his energy taken out of him by Yamu and Spopovich.

No little strand of hair, and obviously you should atleast see a little line of something going down his past his eye brow but you don't.

.antanTABI · 05-11-2005

Peoplez I just watch the movies, enjoy them and so on.
Gohan could be anywhere. There is just too many transformations. Mystic, SS, SS2. It is confusing I know. But goodness, must our simple intellectual statements come to this? lol. Yes, truly the creator of Dragonball totally messed up things...

Anyway, that's all.
Kat~

.gokusucks · 05-11-2005

The creator of Dragonball didn't make any movies. Gohan couldn't have been Mystic in Movie 10. I'm actually beginning to believe that Gohan was a Super Saiyan 2 myself, but I'm not convinced.

.Element · 05-11-2005

Well if you watch Movie 11, it shows 18 going around to Hercules to collect the Prize Money for the World Tourny and Goten and Trunks sneak along. So movie 10 i would say is based before the Buu saga, or inbetween the Otherworlld Tournament and the Budokai Tournament Sagas. So Gohan definetly wasn't Mystic there.

USSj Goku · 05-16-2005

Just finished watching the movie and Gohan looked SSJ2 to me. When he first powered up against Broly, his hair looked exactly like his SSJ2 Teen hairstyle with one thick strand of hair hanging down. And near the end of the movie when Gohan powered up again he looked like a SSJ only when he did the kamehameha because i saw two strands of hair instead of 1 like he had earlier.

GikuHonishimo · 05-19-2005

QUOTE(USSj Goku @ May 15 2005, 11:36 PM)
Just finished watching the movie and Gohan looked SSJ2 to me. When he first powered up against Broly, his hair looked exactly like his SSJ2 Teen hairstyle with one thick strand of hair hanging down. And near the end of the movie when Gohan powered up again he looked like a SSJ only when he did the kamehameha because i saw two strands of hair instead of 1 like he had earlier.

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It's a simple matter of screwing up the apperances, they did it in the great saiyaman saga, and if this movie fits anywhere it's obviously during that saga well before the world tournament. I say Gohan was only SSJ. They screwed up the SSJ and SSJ2 Teen Gohan hair a lot in the saiyaman saga, when technically Gohan should've been SSJ2 while fighting Dabura and SSJ while fighting any other person before then. Anyone care to tell me why they got rid of the lightning around Gohan when he was fighting Dabura though?

USSj Goku · 05-19-2005

Most likely Toriyama just forgot to add the electricity in Gohan's aura in his fight against Dabura.

GikuHonishimo · 05-20-2005

QUOTE(USSj Goku @ May 18 2005, 07:30 PM)
Most likely Toriyama just forgot to add the electricity in Gohan's aura in his fight against Dabura.

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Toriyama DID NOT do the anime, but he did do the manga. Toei probably screwed up the anime apperance, I don't know if he got rid of the lightning in the manga, haven't seen that chapter yet, did he or not?

05-07-2005	#16 (permalink)
.Dragonball_Legacy (19) Mastered Super Saiyan Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 1,135 Rep Power: 0	Gohan was SSJ2 in Movie 10 QUOTE(Mirai Trunks05 @ May 6 2005, 07:56 PM) QUOTE(Dragonball_Legacy @ May 6 2005, 02:24 PM) I thought I made it pretty clear that Gohan was not a super saiyan in the fight against Dabura. I mean take a look at this.. Here explains why the hair is of no indication for SSJ2 His base form looks like a black hair, black eyed version of the fight with Dabura. Super Saiyan Gohan and Super Saiyan Gohan Is there a difference, yes! But is there any super saiyan differences, No! They are both just super saiyan. Gohan's hair changes base on his mood not on his form!!! [snapback]351021[/snapback] I'm sorry, but this has nothing to do with the topic at hand. This topic discusses Gohan and Movie 10. And besides, the first picture is Chou Gohan from Movie 13. [snapback]351059[/snapback] I know I would just showwing how hair is not an indication of SSJ2. And since that is brought up that Gohan being an SSJ2 in movie 10, I decided to place this in the better reason why he wasn't an SSJ2. Mirai Trunks05 Edit: Okay, I understand where you're coming from with your post. But don't continue to talk about Movie 13 since it is off-topic. Thanks.

05-08-2005	#17 (permalink)
.Element (22) Super Saiyan 3 Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 2,176 Rep Power: 7	Gohan was SSJ2 in Movie 10 The only time i saw Gohan at SSJ2 in Buu saga was when he powerd up in the World Tourny Arena in front of Kibito leading to Gohans Energy being Stolen. This was just after the whole Movie 10 thing imo... the movies don't really co-inside with the sagas too well but im sure that this was just before the World Tournament saga and therefore Gohan was only SSJ against Broly.

05-09-2005	#18 (permalink)
.gokusucks (20) Super Saiyan 2 Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 1,315 Rep Power: 6	Gohan was SSJ2 in Movie 10 He was Super Saiyan 2 when fighting Dabura, and when fighting Fat Buu. Yeah, I say that Gohan is a Super Saiyan in Movie 10

05-09-2005	#19 (permalink)
Darkprince410 Moderator Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Ohio, United States Posts: 3,009 Rep Power: 53	Gohan was SSJ2 in Movie 10 QUOTE(Dragonball_Legacy @ May 6 2005, 07:24 PM) I thought I made it pretty clear that Gohan was not a super saiyan 2 in the fight against Dabura. I mean take a look at this.. Here explains why the hair is of no indication for SSJ2 His base form looks like a black hair, black eyed version of the fight with Dabura. [snapback]351021[/snapback] Why use a picture of Chou Gohan from Movie 13 when trying to argue a point about something three movies earlier? And you never made it clear that Gohan wasn't Ssj2 when fighting Dabura, because your "proof" was.....horrible, with nothing more than halfass theories and blatant contradictions making them up. My idea is that Gohan appeared both as an Ssj2 and later as just an Ssj in movie 10, as the collage Mirai Trunks posted showed Ssj Gohan after being beaten around a good deal, so it's possible that Gohan fought Burori as an Ssj2, but was beaten around to the point that he didn't have enough strength to go Ssj2 again, and just went Ssj instead. __________________

05-10-2005	#20 (permalink)
.gokusucks (20) Super Saiyan 2 Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 1,315 Rep Power: 6	Gohan was SSJ2 in Movie 10 But Broly was almost twice as strong as Gohan. If he beat him as a Super Saiyan 2, then he might've been as strong as Super Saiyan 2 Goku, or Majin Vegeta, which we both know is incorrect.

05-10-2005	#21 (permalink)
.ZFIGHTER_PAN (11) Student of Lord Kaio Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 189 Rep Power: 4	Gohan was SSJ2 in Movie 10 If I could bring GT into this without being yelled at, I would appreciate it: If you noticed when Goku Jr. when SSJ the first time in the GT TV movie, he had sparks flaring from his Aura (Just like Gohan did) but Goku Jr. wasn't in SSJ2 mode because his hair would have been like Goku's was in SSJ2. So just flat out saying, Gohan was not in any way in SSJ2 mode in movie 10. He may have almost TRANSFORMED to that state, but not one time did he go SSJ2 in that movie. Thank You for your time.

05-11-2005	#22 (permalink)
Abaddon (9) Namekian Warrior Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 107 Rep Power: 4	Gohan was SSJ2 in Movie 10 QUOTE(Darkprince410 @ May 9 2005, 08:08 AM) QUOTE(Dragonball_Legacy @ May 6 2005, 07:24 PM) I thought I made it pretty clear that Gohan was not a super saiyan 2 in the fight against Dabura. I mean take a look at this.. Here explains why the hair is of no indication for SSJ2 His base form looks like a black hair, black eyed version of the fight with Dabura. [snapback]351021[/snapback] Why use a picture of Chou Gohan from Movie 13 when trying to argue a point about something three movies earlier? And you never made it clear that Gohan wasn't Ssj2 when fighting Dabura, because your "proof" was.....horrible, with nothing more than halfass theories and blatant contradictions making them up. My idea is that Gohan appeared both as an Ssj2 and later as just an Ssj in movie 10, as the collage Mirai Trunks posted showed Ssj Gohan after being beaten around a good deal, so it's possible that Gohan fought Burori as an Ssj2, but was beaten around to the point that he didn't have enough strength to go Ssj2 again, and just went Ssj instead. [snapback]352827[/snapback] he were a ssj2 at dabura.. otherwise goku wouldnt given him the advice he gave him before he fought majin vegeta.. i mean if he just was ssj and was equal to dabura he would win easy so there would be no need to give gohan the advice that he should be angry(pissed)

05-11-2005	#23 (permalink)
.Dragonball_Legacy (19) Mastered Super Saiyan Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 1,135 Rep Power: 0	Gohan was SSJ2 in Movie 10 QUOTE(SSJ4_Mikael @ May 10 2005, 05:26 PM) QUOTE(Darkprince410 @ May 9 2005, 08:08 AM) QUOTE(Dragonball_Legacy @ May 6 2005, 07:24 PM) I thought I made it pretty clear that Gohan was not a super saiyan 2 in the fight against Dabura. I mean take a look at this.. Here explains why the hair is of no indication for SSJ2 His base form looks like a black hair, black eyed version of the fight with Dabura. [snapback]351021[/snapback] Why use a picture of Chou Gohan from Movie 13 when trying to argue a point about something three movies earlier? And you never made it clear that Gohan wasn't Ssj2 when fighting Dabura, because your "proof" was.....horrible, with nothing more than halfass theories and blatant contradictions making them up. My idea is that Gohan appeared both as an Ssj2 and later as just an Ssj in movie 10, as the collage Mirai Trunks posted showed Ssj Gohan after being beaten around a good deal, so it's possible that Gohan fought Burori as an Ssj2, but was beaten around to the point that he didn't have enough strength to go Ssj2 again, and just went Ssj instead. [snapback]352827[/snapback] he were a ssj2 at dabura.. otherwise goku wouldnt given him the advice he gave him before he fought majin vegeta.. i mean if he just was ssj and was equal to dabura he would win easy so there would be no need to give gohan the advice that he should be angry(pissed) [snapback]353523[/snapback] My proof was excellent, you're simply a bad critic, dark prince. And no there are other levels of super saiyan, other than SSJ and SSJ2, you are forgetting about full power SSJ and USSJ. And just as before MIrai Trunks edited my post so he can hide out the truth on DBZ movies. There is no exact parallel likeness between the series and the movies, because in movie 13, which everyone on the god damn Earth already knows Videl is stronger than Mystic Gohan, which I doubt would actually be Mystic Gohan. I mean Dark Prince, I don't see you do anything, but sit their and complain criticize with the maturity of a two year old. But if you want to be the way you are, then fine, I do not care. Here is my true proof: Obviously Gohan before he got some of his energy taken out of him by Yamu and Spopovich. No little strand of hair, and obviously you should atleast see a little line of something going down his past his eye brow but you don't.

05-11-2005	#24 (permalink)
.antanTABI (9) Namekian Warrior Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 105 Rep Power: 4	Gohan was SSJ2 in Movie 10 Peoplez I just watch the movies, enjoy them and so on. Gohan could be anywhere. There is just too many transformations. Mystic, SS, SS2. It is confusing I know. But goodness, must our simple intellectual statements come to this? lol. Yes, truly the creator of Dragonball totally messed up things... Anyway, that's all. Kat~

05-11-2005	#25 (permalink)
.gokusucks (20) Super Saiyan 2 Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 1,315 Rep Power: 6	Gohan was SSJ2 in Movie 10 The creator of Dragonball didn't make any movies. Gohan couldn't have been Mystic in Movie 10. I'm actually beginning to believe that Gohan was a Super Saiyan 2 myself, but I'm not convinced.

05-11-2005	#26 (permalink)
.Element (22) Super Saiyan 3 Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 2,176 Rep Power: 7	Gohan was SSJ2 in Movie 10 Well if you watch Movie 11, it shows 18 going around to Hercules to collect the Prize Money for the World Tourny and Goten and Trunks sneak along. So movie 10 i would say is based before the Buu saga, or inbetween the Otherworlld Tournament and the Budokai Tournament Sagas. So Gohan definetly wasn't Mystic there.

05-16-2005	#27 (permalink)
USSj Goku (18) Artificial Human Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Canada Posts: 831 Rep Power: 5	Gohan was SSJ2 in Movie 10 Just finished watching the movie and Gohan looked SSJ2 to me. When he first powered up against Broly, his hair looked exactly like his SSJ2 Teen hairstyle with one thick strand of hair hanging down. And near the end of the movie when Gohan powered up again he looked like a SSJ only when he did the kamehameha because i saw two strands of hair instead of 1 like he had earlier.

05-19-2005	#28 (permalink)
GikuHonishimo (20) Super Saiyan 2 Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: I live behind closed eyes Posts: 1,236 Rep Power: 5	Gohan was SSJ2 in Movie 10 QUOTE(USSj Goku @ May 15 2005, 11:36 PM) Just finished watching the movie and Gohan looked SSJ2 to me. When he first powered up against Broly, his hair looked exactly like his SSJ2 Teen hairstyle with one thick strand of hair hanging down. And near the end of the movie when Gohan powered up again he looked like a SSJ only when he did the kamehameha because i saw two strands of hair instead of 1 like he had earlier. [snapback]356915[/snapback] It's a simple matter of screwing up the apperances, they did it in the great saiyaman saga, and if this movie fits anywhere it's obviously during that saga well before the world tournament. I say Gohan was only SSJ. They screwed up the SSJ and SSJ2 Teen Gohan hair a lot in the saiyaman saga, when technically Gohan should've been SSJ2 while fighting Dabura and SSJ while fighting any other person before then. Anyone care to tell me why they got rid of the lightning around Gohan when he was fighting Dabura though? __________________ - My official DBZ fanfiction.

05-19-2005	#29 (permalink)
USSj Goku (18) Artificial Human Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Canada Posts: 831 Rep Power: 5	Gohan was SSJ2 in Movie 10 Most likely Toriyama just forgot to add the electricity in Gohan's aura in his fight against Dabura.

05-20-2005	#30 (permalink)
GikuHonishimo (20) Super Saiyan 2 Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: I live behind closed eyes Posts: 1,236 Rep Power: 5	Gohan was SSJ2 in Movie 10 QUOTE(USSj Goku @ May 18 2005, 07:30 PM) Most likely Toriyama just forgot to add the electricity in Gohan's aura in his fight against Dabura. [snapback]358521[/snapback] Toriyama DID NOT do the anime, but he did do the manga. Toei probably screwed up the anime apperance, I don't know if he got rid of the lightning in the manga, haven't seen that chapter yet, did he or not? __________________ - My official DBZ fanfiction.