Would Gohan Be Stronger... - Page 6

04-23-2005

QUOTE(GikuHonishimo @ Apr 22 2005, 05:10 PM)
QUOTE(gogeta the super fusion @ Apr 2 2005, 08:03 PM)
Gohan's Mystic form WOULD NOT have been stronger, it would've stayed the same. Mystic unleashes ALL your potential.* Only people stronger than him: Super Buu Gotenks, SB Gpohan, Super Vegeto, Ss4 Gogeta,* Baby(because Baby can take control of Mystiic Gohan), Omega Shenren ( He has the powers of all seven Dragon Balls)

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Actually you're wrong. It was his maximum at the time, but if he were to train he would just go stronger. However I think he gets weaker cause he stops training after the fight with Buu really.

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You cannot increase potential......he is the highest he can get

.gogeta the super fusion · 04-23-2005

Mystic Gohan can PWN every Non fusion, non Arbsobing warrior.

.Togekanssj · 04-28-2005

excuse me but how is mystic gohan stronger than ssj4

**Darkprince410** · 04-28-2005

Chou Gohan >>>> Gohan's maximum potential (stated by RDK that his ability allows him to bring a fighter past their natural limits)

Gohan's maximum potential >>> Gokuu's maximum potential (stated that saiya-jin/human hybrids have a greater natural potential than that of full bloods, and that Gohan has an unnaturally high potential, even for a hybrid)

Gokuu's maximum potential >>> Super Gokuu 4

Chou Gohan >>>>>>>>>> Super gokuu 4

.Togekanssj · 04-28-2005

I thought it said the hybrids would be stronger if they were
one race alone and how comes gohan couldn't beat buu
and goku faced stronger in ss4

.Dragonball_Legacy · 04-28-2005

pfft maybe I need to place some guidelines, okay.

We all know that SSJ requires someone to have a very high power level.

Toei and the fanboys of Goku are the reason to why Gohan can't use transformations after becoming a mystic.

However your full power in your base form will always be greater than the power you can achieve by the highest degree of transformation you can obtain on the power level needed to master that transformation.

SpanktheMonkey · 04-28-2005

that last paragraph is hard to understad (note i dont need any of you comments telling me i cant read Legacy)

Toei has nothing to do with the fact he cant turn mystic ssj DBZ was written like a decade ago, and then made into an anime after the manga was finished.

Anyway, if Toriyama wanted Gohan to kill Super Buu then he would have done so it is the fans (im not going to say fanboys) that he did not beat him.

If Gohan could he would have turned SSj Chou when fighting Super Buu because he knew how strong he was and knew he had to fight with everything he had.

**Darkprince410** · 04-28-2005

QUOTE(Togekanssj @ Apr 27 2005, 07:31 PM)
I thought it said the hybrids would be stronger if they were
one race alone and how comes gohan couldn't beat buu
and goku faced stronger in ss4

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Short for Ii Shinron, absolutely none of the GT enemies were stronger than Super Buu 1.

SpanktheMonkey · 04-28-2005

yeh and that haas been stated many times before.

Hell for all we know Chibi Goku SSj4 may not have been as strong as Goku SSj3.

.Dragonball_Legacy · 04-29-2005

QUOTE(SpanktheMonkey @ Apr 28 2005, 06:08 AM)
that last paragraph is hard to understad (note i dont need any of you comments telling me i cant read Legacy)

Toei has nothing to do with the fact he cant turn mystic ssj DBZ was written like a decade ago, and then made into an anime after the manga was finished.

Anyway, if Toriyama wanted Gohan to kill Super Buu then he would have done so it is the fans (im not going to say fanboys) that he did not beat him.

If Gohan could he would have turned SSj Chou when fighting Super Buu because he knew how strong he was and knew he had to fight with everything he had.

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I never said you couldn't read, so get of my back, Spanky. Toei and the fanboys have everything to do with Gohan not being able to go Mystic SSJ, look at the facts.

1) The fanboys wants Goku, not Gohan to be the main hero.

2) Majin Buu would have absorbed Gotenks and Piccolo anyways, if he knew he was going to lose to Mystic Gohan.

3) If Akira originally wanted Gohan to be the main character, he would have allowed him to have the power to defeat Buutenks, instead of having Goku arrive and the power in Buutenks to wear off.

Trust me when I say this, Gohan was screwed over. And this wasn't the first time either!!!

.Anakin · 04-29-2005

QUOTE(nyqua @ Apr 22 2005, 05:30 PM)
QUOTE(GikuHonishimo @ Apr 22 2005, 05:10 PM)
QUOTE(gogeta the super fusion @ Apr 2 2005, 08:03 PM)
Gohan's Mystic form WOULD NOT have been stronger, it would've stayed the same. Mystic unleashes ALL your potential.* Only people stronger than him: Super Buu Gotenks, SB Gpohan, Super Vegeto, Ss4 Gogeta,* Baby(because Baby can take control of Mystiic Gohan), Omega Shenren ( He has the powers of all seven Dragon Balls)

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Actually you're wrong. It was his maximum at the time, but if he were to train he would just go stronger. However I think he gets weaker cause he stops training after the fight with Buu really.

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You cannot increase potential......he is the highest he can get

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i think it would actually make more sense if it brought out his current potential. you could train more and raise it IMO

SpanktheMonkey · 04-29-2005

QUOTE(Dragonball_Legacy @ Apr 29 2005, 03:40 AM)
I never said you couldn't read, so get of my back, Spanky. Toei and the fanboys have everything to do with Gohan not being able to go Mystic SSJ, look at the facts.

1) The fanboys wants Goku, not Gohan to be the main hero.

2) Majin Buu would have absorbed Gotenks and Piccolo anyways, if he knew he was going to lose to Mystic Gohan.

3) If Akira originally wanted Gohan to be the main character, he would have allowed him to have the power to defeat Buutenks, instead of having Goku arrive and the power in Buutenks to wear off.

Trust me when I say this, Gohan was screwed over. And this wasn't the first time either!!!

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Im not on your case and you know very well that when i say i dont understand something of your's you tell me to get an education.

Back on the topic.

Like I said Toei has nothing to do with Gohan's inability to 'ascend' as people seem to think he can.

DBZ was finished long befor it was ever animated and therefore rules Toei from the picture, I did however agree with the fact that it was the "fans".

Your number three was just a repeat of what i said, If toiyama wsas truly going to have Gohan as the hero and ditch the fans then he would have made Gohan defeat buu then and there.

And in saying that third point you have agreed that there is no need for Gohan to go SSj Chou which he does and cannot do.

Anakin if you look up both max and potential you will see that it cannot increase.

.Dragonball_Legacy · 04-30-2005

QUOTE(SpanktheMonkey @ Apr 28 2005, 11:13 PM)
QUOTE(Dragonball_Legacy @ Apr 29 2005, 03:40 AM)
I never said you couldn't read, so get of my back, Spanky. Toei and the fanboys have everything to do with Gohan not being able to go Mystic SSJ, look at the facts.

1) The fanboys wants Goku, not Gohan to be the main hero.

2) Majin Buu would have absorbed Gotenks and Piccolo anyways, if he knew he was going to lose to Mystic Gohan.

3) If Akira originally wanted Gohan to be the main character, he would have allowed him to have the power to defeat Buutenks, instead of having Goku arrive and the power in Buutenks to wear off.

Trust me when I say this, Gohan was screwed over. And this wasn't the first time either!!!

[snapback]345775[/snapback]

Im not on your case and you know very well that when i say i dont understand something of your's you tell me to get an education.

Back on the topic.

Like I said Toei has nothing to do with Gohan's inability to 'ascend' as people seem to think he can.

DBZ was finished long befor it was ever animated and therefore rules Toei from the picture, I did however agree with the fact that it was the "fans".

Your number three was just a repeat of what i said, If toiyama wsas truly going to have Gohan as the hero and ditch the fans then he would have made Gohan defeat buu then and there.

And in saying that third point you have agreed that there is no need for Gohan to go SSj Chou which he does and cannot do.

Anakin if you look up both max and potential you will see that it cannot increase.

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But I didn't say get an education, I haven't use that for over a half a year. So please get off my back already.

Even if there is no need to go SSJ after going mystic that still doesn't exempt the possibility of becoming a super saiyan after becoming a mystic.

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Anonymous Guest Posts: n/a	Would Gohan Be Stronger... QUOTE(GikuHonishimo @ Apr 22 2005, 05:10 PM) QUOTE(gogeta the super fusion @ Apr 2 2005, 08:03 PM) Gohan's Mystic form WOULD NOT have been stronger, it would've stayed the same. Mystic unleashes ALL your potential.* Only people stronger than him: Super Buu Gotenks, SB Gpohan, Super Vegeto, Ss4 Gogeta,* Baby(because Baby can take control of Mystiic Gohan), Omega Shenren ( He has the powers of all seven Dragon Balls) [snapback]327380[/snapback] Actually you're wrong. It was his maximum at the time, but if he were to train he would just go stronger. However I think he gets weaker cause he stops training after the fight with Buu really. [snapback]341741[/snapback] You cannot increase potential......he is the highest he can get

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.gogeta the super fusion (24) Super Saiyan 4 Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 3,202 Rep Power: 8	Would Gohan Be Stronger... Mystic Gohan can PWN every Non fusion, non Arbsobing warrior.

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.Togekanssj (6) Disciple of Kami Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 47 Rep Power: 0	Would Gohan Be Stronger... excuse me but how is mystic gohan stronger than ssj4

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Darkprince410 Moderator Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Ohio, United States Posts: 3,009 Rep Power: 53	Would Gohan Be Stronger... Chou Gohan >>>> Gohan's maximum potential (stated by RDK that his ability allows him to bring a fighter past their natural limits) Gohan's maximum potential >>> Gokuu's maximum potential (stated that saiya-jin/human hybrids have a greater natural potential than that of full bloods, and that Gohan has an unnaturally high potential, even for a hybrid) Gokuu's maximum potential >>> Super Gokuu 4 Chou Gohan >>>>>>>>>> Super gokuu 4 __________________

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.Togekanssj (6) Disciple of Kami Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 47 Rep Power: 0	Would Gohan Be Stronger... I thought it said the hybrids would be stronger if they were one race alone and how comes gohan couldn't beat buu and goku faced stronger in ss4

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.Dragonball_Legacy (19) Mastered Super Saiyan Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 1,135 Rep Power: 0	Would Gohan Be Stronger... pfft maybe I need to place some guidelines, okay. We all know that SSJ requires someone to have a very high power level. Toei and the fanboys of Goku are the reason to why Gohan can't use transformations after becoming a mystic. However your full power in your base form will always be greater than the power you can achieve by the highest degree of transformation you can obtain on the power level needed to master that transformation.

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SpanktheMonkey (26) Great Elder of Namek Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: 'Straya Posts: 4,630 Rep Power: 32	Would Gohan Be Stronger... that last paragraph is hard to understad (note i dont need any of you comments telling me i cant read Legacy) Toei has nothing to do with the fact he cant turn mystic ssj DBZ was written like a decade ago, and then made into an anime after the manga was finished. Anyway, if Toriyama wanted Gohan to kill Super Buu then he would have done so it is the fans (im not going to say fanboys) that he did not beat him. If Gohan could he would have turned SSj Chou when fighting Super Buu because he knew how strong he was and knew he had to fight with everything he had. __________________ "You only scared to die if you aint livin' right." XBL: SlyAudio

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Darkprince410 Moderator Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Ohio, United States Posts: 3,009 Rep Power: 53	Would Gohan Be Stronger... QUOTE(Togekanssj @ Apr 27 2005, 07:31 PM) I thought it said the hybrids would be stronger if they were one race alone and how comes gohan couldn't beat buu and goku faced stronger in ss4 [snapback]345210[/snapback] Short for Ii Shinron, absolutely none of the GT enemies were stronger than Super Buu 1. __________________

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SpanktheMonkey (26) Great Elder of Namek Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: 'Straya Posts: 4,630 Rep Power: 32	Would Gohan Be Stronger... yeh and that haas been stated many times before. Hell for all we know Chibi Goku SSj4 may not have been as strong as Goku SSj3. __________________ "You only scared to die if you aint livin' right." XBL: SlyAudio

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.Dragonball_Legacy (19) Mastered Super Saiyan Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 1,135 Rep Power: 0	Would Gohan Be Stronger... QUOTE(SpanktheMonkey @ Apr 28 2005, 06:08 AM) that last paragraph is hard to understad (note i dont need any of you comments telling me i cant read Legacy) Toei has nothing to do with the fact he cant turn mystic ssj DBZ was written like a decade ago, and then made into an anime after the manga was finished. Anyway, if Toriyama wanted Gohan to kill Super Buu then he would have done so it is the fans (im not going to say fanboys) that he did not beat him. If Gohan could he would have turned SSj Chou when fighting Super Buu because he knew how strong he was and knew he had to fight with everything he had. [snapback]345626[/snapback] I never said you couldn't read, so get of my back, Spanky. Toei and the fanboys have everything to do with Gohan not being able to go Mystic SSJ, look at the facts. 1) The fanboys wants Goku, not Gohan to be the main hero. 2) Majin Buu would have absorbed Gotenks and Piccolo anyways, if he knew he was going to lose to Mystic Gohan. 3) If Akira originally wanted Gohan to be the main character, he would have allowed him to have the power to defeat Buutenks, instead of having Goku arrive and the power in Buutenks to wear off. Trust me when I say this, Gohan was screwed over. And this wasn't the first time either!!!

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.Anakin (8) Saiyan Warrior Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 87 Rep Power: 4	Would Gohan Be Stronger... QUOTE(nyqua @ Apr 22 2005, 05:30 PM) QUOTE(GikuHonishimo @ Apr 22 2005, 05:10 PM) QUOTE(gogeta the super fusion @ Apr 2 2005, 08:03 PM) Gohan's Mystic form WOULD NOT have been stronger, it would've stayed the same. Mystic unleashes ALL your potential.* Only people stronger than him: Super Buu Gotenks, SB Gpohan, Super Vegeto, Ss4 Gogeta,* Baby(because Baby can take control of Mystiic Gohan), Omega Shenren ( He has the powers of all seven Dragon Balls) [snapback]327380[/snapback] Actually you're wrong. It was his maximum at the time, but if he were to train he would just go stronger. However I think he gets weaker cause he stops training after the fight with Buu really. [snapback]341741[/snapback] You cannot increase potential......he is the highest he can get [snapback]341749[/snapback] i think it would actually make more sense if it brought out his current potential. you could train more and raise it IMO

04-29-2005	#87 (permalink)
SpanktheMonkey (26) Great Elder of Namek Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: 'Straya Posts: 4,630 Rep Power: 32	Would Gohan Be Stronger... QUOTE(Dragonball_Legacy @ Apr 29 2005, 03:40 AM) I never said you couldn't read, so get of my back, Spanky. Toei and the fanboys have everything to do with Gohan not being able to go Mystic SSJ, look at the facts. 1) The fanboys wants Goku, not Gohan to be the main hero. 2) Majin Buu would have absorbed Gotenks and Piccolo anyways, if he knew he was going to lose to Mystic Gohan. 3) If Akira originally wanted Gohan to be the main character, he would have allowed him to have the power to defeat Buutenks, instead of having Goku arrive and the power in Buutenks to wear off. Trust me when I say this, Gohan was screwed over. And this wasn't the first time either!!! [snapback]345775[/snapback] Im not on your case and you know very well that when i say i dont understand something of your's you tell me to get an education. Back on the topic. Like I said Toei has nothing to do with Gohan's inability to 'ascend' as people seem to think he can. DBZ was finished long befor it was ever animated and therefore rules Toei from the picture, I did however agree with the fact that it was the "fans". Your number three was just a repeat of what i said, If toiyama wsas truly going to have Gohan as the hero and ditch the fans then he would have made Gohan defeat buu then and there. And in saying that third point you have agreed that there is no need for Gohan to go SSj Chou which he does and cannot do. Anakin if you look up both max and potential you will see that it cannot increase. __________________ "You only scared to die if you aint livin' right." XBL: SlyAudio

04-30-2005	#88 (permalink)
.Dragonball_Legacy (19) Mastered Super Saiyan Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 1,135 Rep Power: 0	Would Gohan Be Stronger... QUOTE(SpanktheMonkey @ Apr 28 2005, 11:13 PM) QUOTE(Dragonball_Legacy @ Apr 29 2005, 03:40 AM) I never said you couldn't read, so get of my back, Spanky. Toei and the fanboys have everything to do with Gohan not being able to go Mystic SSJ, look at the facts. 1) The fanboys wants Goku, not Gohan to be the main hero. 2) Majin Buu would have absorbed Gotenks and Piccolo anyways, if he knew he was going to lose to Mystic Gohan. 3) If Akira originally wanted Gohan to be the main character, he would have allowed him to have the power to defeat Buutenks, instead of having Goku arrive and the power in Buutenks to wear off. Trust me when I say this, Gohan was screwed over. And this wasn't the first time either!!! [snapback]345775[/snapback] Im not on your case and you know very well that when i say i dont understand something of your's you tell me to get an education. Back on the topic. Like I said Toei has nothing to do with Gohan's inability to 'ascend' as people seem to think he can. DBZ was finished long befor it was ever animated and therefore rules Toei from the picture, I did however agree with the fact that it was the "fans". Your number three was just a repeat of what i said, If toiyama wsas truly going to have Gohan as the hero and ditch the fans then he would have made Gohan defeat buu then and there. And in saying that third point you have agreed that there is no need for Gohan to go SSj Chou which he does and cannot do. Anakin if you look up both max and potential you will see that it cannot increase. [snapback]346016[/snapback] But I didn't say get an education, I haven't use that for over a half a year. So please get off my back already. Even if there is no need to go SSJ after going mystic that still doesn't exempt the possibility of becoming a super saiyan after becoming a mystic.