Duo

Piccolo saw SS Goku at his best, as well as Vegeta..and he still assessed Vegeta to be stronger.

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.SSJ2 Gohan

But he had not seen SSJ3 had he?

Duo

I speak of the Android Saga...

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"Christianity is not about building an absolutely secure little niche in the world where you can live with your perfect little wife and your perfect little children in your beautiful little house where you have no gays or minority groups anywhere near you. Christianity is about learning to love like Jesus loved and Jesus loved the poor and Jesus loved the broken."

.SSJ2 Gohan

Oh yes, My Bad reading.

.gogeta the super fusion

off couse people beleve Vegeta was stronger. Goku lost to 19. Vegeta destroyed 19 thjat's why.

And Piccolo did try to warn Goku not to use the Kamehamreha on the droid.

Duo

Piccolo had spent 3 years sparring with Super Saiyan Son Goku and still thought Vegeta was stronger.

Piccolo knew Goku's full power as well as Vegeta's, why doubt his judgement?

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"Christianity is not about building an absolutely secure little niche in the world where you can live with your perfect little wife and your perfect little children in your beautiful little house where you have no gays or minority groups anywhere near you. Christianity is about learning to love like Jesus loved and Jesus loved the poor and Jesus loved the broken."

.gogeta the super fusion

Piccolo can sense energy as good as goku and still lost to the andriods.

Ss2 is the Saiyan rage. You need Rage to reach it. You will need training to rach the Ultra levvels so Ultra Trunks is stronger than even FPSS Trunks cause Ultra Trunks hasve more experrince and is stronge due to the fact that he trains twice in the ROSAT. FPSS Trunks only trained eight hours in the time chamber stated somewhere in the Gotenks saga. Trunks did not have enough rage that's why he diid not become ss2 nor did Vegeta. But Gohan had rage. Trunks had enough power but didn't have rage to trigger the transformation.

.Dragonball_Legacy

QUOTE(SSJ2 Gohan @ Mar 29 2005, 11:22 PM)
Why would he hold back in SSJ, Theres no need.



He's Gotenks he is all about show, of course he'd be holding back and he was holding back to show off like there was some glory thing to obtain.

Actually there are two SSJ2's seen. Ultra Full Power Super Saiyan (Goku and Vegeta) and Enraged Super Saiyan (Gohan). And its not the same power level increase.

.Saiyan Wench

It would also make sense to me that Vegeta could have been stronger than Goku when Vegeta first went Super Saiyan because of how intensely he had trained leading up to it. He was a maniac. Of course we don't really know a whole lot of what Goku's training with Piccolo and Gohan involved, but I would say it was mostly sparring with one another. And taking a few days to get a driver's license . LOL.

.Dragonball_Legacy

QUOTE(Saiyan Wench @ Mar 30 2005, 01:26 AM)
It would also make sense to me that Vegeta could have been stronger than Goku when Vegeta first went Super Saiyan because of how intensely he had trained leading up to it. He was a maniac. Of course we don't really know a whole lot of what Goku's training with Piccolo and Gohan involved, but I would say it was mostly sparring with one another. And taking a few days to get a driver's license . LOL.




Well yeah, but remember Goku's training is so shapely that Vegeta even with doing 4000000% his best he could never catch up, remember the Buu saga?

mackBlasta

QUOTE(Dragonball_Legacy @ Mar 29 2005, 09:25 PM)
QUOTE(SSJ2 Gohan @ Mar 29 2005, 11:22 PM)
Why would he hold back in SSJ, Theres no need.



He's Gotenks he is all about show, of course he'd be holding back and he was holding back to show off like there was some glory thing to obtain.

Actually there are two SSJ2's seen. Ultra Full Power Super Saiyan (Goku and Vegeta) and Enraged Super Saiyan (Gohan). And its not the same power level increase.



Where do you get this crap from? There's no such thing as "ultra full power super saiyan" or "enraged super saiyan". Gohan was an SSj2. Goku and Vegeta were SSj2s. That's all there is to it.

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.gogeta the super fusion

Vegeta became ss before the Buu saga. in the Buu saga his top was Fpss2. Vegeta's ss>>Ss Goku in the andriod saga. Vegeta even held his own againts 18 who had to go full power stated By Trunks. 18 was stronger than 19 who defeated Goku with ease. Ss Vegeta couldn't top 18's power because she kept on blocking and wasting away Vegeta's energy. 18 hd unlimited energy so she could keep fighting forever. 18's only advantage was that she was an andriod. Vegeta could'nt keep up. 18>>Vegeta>>>>>>>19>>Goku.

.Saiyan Wench

Oh come on, Dragon ball Legacy. Let Vegeta have his moment of glory. Goku really just had the talent. I think it just basically came easier for Goku. Vegeta had to work like crazy to even try to come close.

.Dragonball_Legacy

QUOTE(Blackmasta925 @ Mar 30 2005, 01:29 AM)
QUOTE(Dragonball_Legacy @ Mar 29 2005, 09:25 PM)
QUOTE(SSJ2 Gohan @ Mar 29 2005, 11:22 PM)
Why would he hold back in SSJ, Theres no need.



He's Gotenks he is all about show, of course he'd be holding back and he was holding back to show off like there was some glory thing to obtain.

Actually there are two SSJ2's seen. Ultra Full Power Super Saiyan (Goku and Vegeta) and Enraged Super Saiyan (Gohan). And its not the same power level increase.



Where do you get this crap from? There's no such thing as "ultra full power super saiyan" or "enraged super saiyan". Gohan was an SSj2. Goku and Vegeta were SSj2s. That's all there is to it.



From doing your mom

Nope I am sorry but using a 2 as a letter of a word or as part of a word is a syntax error and as we "non-n00b" people know you can't use syntax errors.

Ultra Full Power Super Saiyan comes from that fact that it is a form that beyong Full Power Super Saiyan and it comes from training like Full Power Super Saiyan.

Enraged Super Saiyan comes from rage, that is why it is called enraged super saiyan.

.gogeta the super fusion

POt ROASTED!!!!


and ultra full power super saiyan was used againts perfect cell by Goku. Ultra Saiyan was used by Vegeta and Trunks againts Imperfect Cell. FPSS=Uss2. FPSS the form that Goku and Gohan used that is cause FPSS Goten and tRunks could never beat Perfect Cell holding back.