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Old 03-30-2005   #46 (permalink)
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He was a soul cloud.

Random Freeza grunts cared for their team mates too. Does that mean they kept their bodies?
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QUOTE(VegettoEX @ Mar 27 2005, 10:44 PM)
QUOTE(Crayne @ Mar 27 2005, 06:23 PM)
The movie special and GT were not made by AT. That's why Bardock is never shown in the series.

Um... yes he was.

In fact, Toriyama-sensei did the final designs for Bardock and his team. He loved the TV special so much that he even incorporated a couple bits into the manga.

This page isn't finished yet (I want to add Nakatsuru-sensei's original character designs for Bardock & Co., and I want to replace the Viz scans with kanzenban scans)... but it'll totally contradict what you just said .

http://www.daizex.com/general/tidbits/bardock.shtml
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Well...I knew that GT wasn't made by AT...
But I assumed that because the movies weren't made by AT(Am I right....right?) the tv special wasn't made by him either.
Gotta get some proof the next time...
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sigh, if you remember buu saga aswell, you could tell who was who by there upper bodies
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That was Filler, Viper.
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QUOTE(Crayne @ Mar 30 2005, 02:53 PM)
Well...I knew that GT wasn't made by AT...
But I assumed that because the movies weren't made by AT(Am I right....right?) the tv special wasn't made by him either.
Gotta get some proof the next time...
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Toriyama-sensei did the character designs for a significant amount of movie characters (Slug, Coola, Broli, etc.). He didn't write the stories, but he did have some input.
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hahah gohans "no im not" comment is humourous.

Bardok noever turnt good. he just wanted revenge for the death of his crew.
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QUOTE(dragontigerviper @ Mar 31 2005, 02:15 AM)
sigh, if you remember buu saga aswell, you could tell who was who by there upper bodies
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sigh, if you remember what was being said in the argument then you could tell that was filler.

Bardock became a cloud.



Heh heh clould is a funny word.
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I don't think Bardock was evil as much as he and the rest of the Saiyan people were misguided... they worked for Frieza who in my opinion was the real bastard here. If they wouldn't have done what Frieza wanted, Frieza would have just killed them all that much sooner. Plus, they were a warrier race...fighting, which would usually result in the death of somebody, is all they knew and I doubt that the average Saiyan had much as far as an education goes. Except for Vegeta. He killed, in my opinion, for the pure pleasure of it. I think in Vegeta's head, that by being able to conquer other planets and people, was proof to himself, that he was the best.

But besides that, I think the real reason that Goku never encountered Bardock in the afterlife is not whether Bardock was a cloud or whatever as much as the fact Bardock was one of the movie characters and was never in the actual series. Many of the movies do not really fit into the series. You can get a general time frame of when the movie is taking place because of who is in the movie and by the length of their hair or how they look, but that's about it.
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But besides that, I think the real reason that Goku never encountered Bardock in the afterlife is not whether Bardock was a cloud or whatever as much as the fact Bardock was one of the movie characters and was never in the actual series. Many of the movies do not really fit into the series. You can get a general time frame of when the movie is taking place because of who is in the movie and by the length of their hair or how they look, but that's about it.


the specials are part of the series...
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But besides that, I think the real reason that Goku never encountered Bardock in the afterlife is not whether Bardock was a cloud or whatever as much as the fact Bardock was one of the movie characters and was never in the actual series. Many of the movies do not really fit into the series. You can get a general time frame of when the movie is taking place because of who is in the movie and by the length of their hair or how they look, but that's about it.


the specials are part of the series...
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They aren't official parts. All we know about Bardock is that one panel they showed us in the manga. Everything else is non-canon. As far as the other special goes (History of Trunks), 50% of it is non-canon.
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The last time you'll ever see Bardock again is in those visions Goku had exprienced while Frieza was trying to keep him under water. Plus, if you still want to see how Bardock did well as a Saiyan Elite Warrior before Frieza launched a deadly powerful energy ball that not only swallowed up Bardock and what's left of his Saiyan forces, but the Planet Vegeta itself in the movie of the history of the Saiyans.
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Yeah, Akira Toriyama didn't make GT. But I've thought about that too. Wait. Goku has never seen his father or what he looks like has he?
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Bardock didn't come back cause Gt sux. Bardock tried to save the Saiyain race from frezer's blast. and anyway, Bardock was just folwing oders given by his top comanders of the saiyan race.
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if you go by DBZ logic, Bardock sacrificed him self for someone else (to save his planet) there-fore, just as Gokuh has sacrificed himself to save his planet, he should have been in Heaven.
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Pity he was evil
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