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1. Dead Zone - Before DBZ but after DB
(would only work if Krillin wasn't in the movie) 2. Worlds Strongest - Just after the saiyan saga (would only work if Piccolo wasn't there and Goku was indeed in a much better condition than he was) 3. Tree of Might - In between the saiyan saga and the Namek (Freeza) saga (Only if Piccolo wasn't there) 4. Lord Slug - Just before the Namek (Freeza) saga (Only if Piccolo wasn't there) 5. Cooler's revenge - After the Freeza saga (this one actually fits in, because Vegeta could be off training in deep space) 6. Cooler returns - Just before the Android saga (This one could work of just before the hyperbolic time Chamber, since both Vegeta and Goku could go Super Saiyan) 7. Super Android 13 - Somewhere inbetween the Android saga (Probably durring the early part of the 10 days before the Cell Games, it is amazing how calm the people can get when Hercule is around) 8. Brolly the Legendary Super Saiya-jin - During the nine days leading to the Cell Games (Indeed, Toei shouldn't have disregarded Ultra Super Saiyan forms) 9. Bojack Unbound - After the Cell saga (It fits) 10. Brolly returns - The days leading up to the 25th Tournament (It fits) 11. Bio Brolly - Somewhere during the Babadi/ Majin Buu saga (Yeah probably I guess, I think it would have occured after the Buu Saga though, if you think about it, because Goten and Trunks after the tournament raced out to fight against Majin Buu and find out what happened to Vegeta and the others and then they were both unconscious and then they were busy trying to train with Piccolo for the fusion technique) 12. The fusion revival - Goku and Vegeta - Somewhere during the Majin Buu saga (More than likely during the Buu saga, because Vegeta was dead) 13. Dragonfist explosion - After the Kid Buu saga (Yes indeed!) |
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Movie 5 doesn't fit because Goku can't go SSj at will, even though he told Trunks he could after his time on Yardrat.
Movie 6 doesn't fit because Dende doesn't become the guardian of the Earth until after Goku and Gohan are FpSSj. Movie 9 doesn't work because of minor plotholes like Trunks' long hair.
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QUOTE(Chibi Mystic Gohan @ Mar 29 2005, 05:53 PM)
Movie 5 doesn't fit because Goku can't go SSj at will, even though he told Trunks he could after his time on Yardrat. Movie 6 doesn't fit because Dende doesn't become the guardian of the Earth until after Goku and Gohan are FpSSj. Movie 9 doesn't work because of minor plotholes like Trunks' long hair. [snapback]322282[/snapback] 5: Goku doesn't go SSJ at will in Movie 5, he does so after seeing the Earth about to die by the hands of Cooler. 6: No if I recall correctly Dende was Guardian of the Earth a bit prior to the hyperbolic time chamber training, but I could be wrong about that. Anyways there is no proof on whether Dende was the Guardian of the Earth or not in the movie, because he could so easily have been communicating telepathicly with Goku. 9: Trunk's hair was long in the Cell Games and short when he came back to his own time/ universe. So either having short or long hair fits in there, besides appearance is nothing more that franchise marketting. "What looks good to the people" |
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QUOTE(Blackmasta925 @ Mar 29 2005, 09:02 PM)
Goku not being able to go SSj at will is the reason why Movie 5 doesn't fit. [snapback]322451[/snapback] Well I don't know, I consider Goku still trying to get to use to Super Saiyan alot better than him just suddenly mastering it. Considering how long it takes for someone to become a super saiyan, aka 1000 years. After all it took like forever for Goku, Trunks, and Vegeta to become Super Saiyans while fighting android 13, 14, 15. See the thing is to make it more dramatic, if Goku could just go Super Saiyan any time he felt like it, then it wouldn't make the fight between him and Cooler good enough to make it to U.S. unless they made it some kind of TV special or something. |
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QUOTE(Dragonball_Legacy @ Mar 29 2005, 09:06 PM)
QUOTE(Blackmasta925 @ Mar 29 2005, 09:02 PM) Goku not being able to go SSj at will is the reason why Movie 5 doesn't fit. [snapback]322451[/snapback] Well I don't know, I consider Goku still trying to get to use to Super Saiyan alot better than him just suddenly mastering it. Considering how long it takes for someone to become a super saiyan, aka 1000 years. [snapback]322458[/snapback] Ye but how did he suddenly go super saiyan at will when he jus arrived on earth 2 talk 2 trunks. Movie 5 was after that (so it doesn't fit) |
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QUOTE(Dragonball_Legacy @ Mar 29 2005, 05:06 PM)
QUOTE(Blackmasta925 @ Mar 29 2005, 09:02 PM) Goku not being able to go SSj at will is the reason why Movie 5 doesn't fit. [snapback]322451[/snapback] Well I don't know, I consider Goku still trying to get to use to Super Saiyan alot better than him just suddenly mastering it. Considering how long it takes for someone to become a super saiyan, aka 1000 years. [snapback]322458[/snapback] By the time Goku got back on Earth, he was able to control his ability to transform into SSj.
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QUOTE(DBZ Gangsta @ Mar 29 2005, 09:09 PM)
QUOTE(Dragonball_Legacy @ Mar 29 2005, 09:06 PM) QUOTE(Blackmasta925 @ Mar 29 2005, 09:02 PM) Goku not being able to go SSj at will is the reason why Movie 5 doesn't fit. [snapback]322451[/snapback] Well I don't know, I consider Goku still trying to get to use to Super Saiyan alot better than him just suddenly mastering it. Considering how long it takes for someone to become a super saiyan, aka 1000 years. [snapback]322458[/snapback] Ye but how did he suddenly go super saiyan at will when he jus arrived on earth 2 talk 2 trunks. Movie 5 was after that (so it doesn't fit) [snapback]322463[/snapback] Ahh yeah I know, but if you think about it, what if Goku had been constantly training SSJ at the time prior to Trunks killed Frieza. And then a year went by, and Goku had neglected his training as an SSJ to increase his base power. Which would explain why he could go so well with Cooler's base form which is far stronger than Frieza's. I mean if you start to forget to practice something you begin to forget using it, like Trunks could have easily had gone Super Saiyan and crush all those worms in GT, when he, Goku, and Pan got stuck inside that asteroid. But then again I think Goku should have been dead and Bardock shows up instead, but gains super saiyan after the confrontation with Cooler. |
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It cant B coz Cooler managed 2 become another lvl higher so he must hav reached the full potential of his 4th form whereas Frieza didn't.
But then again. Goku did beat Cooler pretty bad in his 4th form and struggled against Frieza Wait... Goku had trained after that fight so he had become stronger (why am i arguin wiv myself) |
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QUOTE(Blackmasta925 @ Mar 29 2005, 09:20 PM)
4th form Cooler is weaker then 4th form Freeza(stated). [snapback]322482[/snapback] Cooler: "I am by far stronger than my brother", also stated. Cooler had become so much stronger than Frieza he was able to ascend to a greater form, instead of just Remember, Cooler was at like 33% power when he first went out at Goku and then he bulked up to 100% and transformed to his 5th henshin. And considering how much more powerful Goku has gotten since those years long back when he had fought Frieza, he would indeed be about close to about 5 million which is higher than Frieza was at 33% or whatever. |
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If Cooler was stronger then Freeza, then explain how Freeza was able to beat up on Goku and hurt him, when Cooler couldn't even phase him. There's also no proof that Goku was any stronger in Movie 5 then he was on Namek. He wasn't able to control SSj, which means he hadn't gone through the training on Yadrat.
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Firstly if ur talkin bout normal Goku Cooler took him out wiv one energy beam. If ur onna bout ssj Goku the reasons are...
Goku has got stronger from the fight wiv Frieza Goku had just become ssj against Frieza so he was at its weakest ability Goku was playin around wiv Frieza and slowly started 2 show a true ssj's power and then kicked ass |
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