Bardock: Did he go heaven or hell?

Pudge · 05-11-2006

Bardock: The Father of Goku in which it wasn't said there and in the Manga he was there a whopping 2 panels looking fierce, which that also explains nothing! So here's some things to help stere your opions.
Heaven:

He died in an attempt to stop Freiza from blowing up the planet Vegeta and trying to avenge the death of his friends. His final fight was a nobel one. He tried to save the thousands of lives on Vegeta despit them mocking him he went to try and stop it.

Hell(HFIL):

Rather a simple one, he killed many people, not much thinking invovled there. He took over planets with his crew and did those bad things.

Complications, Heaven:

Though his fight to stop Freiza he wasn't exactly doing it to save innocent people of other planets, he was doing it for his planet. Which might make the heaven thing a little weird, was his fight for good or just simply to save what he wants.

Complications. Hell(HFIL):

It never really said he wanted to kill those people, before he threw his blast he said:
"And this is for all the people we killed in your name! Here! Have it!" *Throws blast*. So he might have felt some regret for those people he killed since he said the kills wern't in his name. So mabey the killing he did wasn't as bad and heartless as it sounds.

Now I thought for a while before I chose what Forum to put it in since it's called a TV special not a movie. But either way I came to GT/Movies because Bardock is not in the story line and so I chose here. I still don't know if this is the better Forum choice.

So anyway, were do you think you Bardock went? Heaven? Or Hell(HFIL)? I guess I should put my OWN opion so I hope he wenr to heaven but I am probbaly leaning towards hell.

DBAF Killer · 05-11-2006

Maybe Bardock's spirit is wandering around somewhere in space

Gozar · 05-12-2006

I truley believe he went to heaven....he was under Freeza's rule, like with Vegeta, he never had the chance to become anything else, it was either kill or be killed. Also, he tried to atone for his sins by taking out Freeza, I believe Yemma would put him in heaven.

**Darkprince410** · 05-12-2006

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Originally Posted by Gozar

I truley believe he went to heaven....he was under Freeza's rule, like with Vegeta, he never had the chance to become anything else, it was either kill or be killed. Also, he tried to atone for his sins by taking out Freeza, I believe Yemma would put him in heaven.

I disagree. What Bardock did was not much different than what Bejiita did when he used his Sai Shuu Sai Go no Reza against Fat Buu, that being one good deed despite countless years of destruction and death. I doubt that what Bardock did was enough to warrant him being able to go to heaven.

Gozar · 05-12-2006

But Vegeta didn't go to hell....did he? Yemma relized the change & kept him around.

Juissi · 05-12-2006

I think that it isnt stated did Vegeta go hell or not Piccolo just said that he has done so much evil things in his life that he isnt going to heaven. So I say that Bardock went to Hell. Because dont you think that people who go to hell do some good things in their life. They just do so many bad things that it isnt balanced with their good deeds and thats why they go hell.

JerrodDRagon · 05-12-2006

Vegeta stayed at the check in station becuase they were going to try to bring him back for a day (like Goku did) So since Vegeta got a day to come back from the dead I am sure he went to heavon.

Bardock went to heavon, he killed people becuase they had to not because he wanted to unlike Vegeta who killed Nappa his own partner.

Bardock was a hero when he died, so he went to heavon.

Gozar · 05-12-2006

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Originally Posted by JerrodDRagon

Vegeta stayed at the check in station becuase they were going to try to bring him back for a day (like Goku did) So since Vegeta got a day to come back from the dead I am sure he went to heavon.

Bardock went to heavon, he killed people becuase they had to not because he wanted to unlike Vegeta who killed Nappa his own partner.

Bardock was a hero when he died, so he went to heavon.

Acctually, that was not planned ahead...at the time when Vegeta would get his body back, Yemma had no clue what was going on down on earth, it wasn't until Goku told him.

But you make a good point for Bardock going to heaven, Vegeta enjoyed killing while Bardock saw it as just a job to keep his life......& like you said, Vegeta didn't give a crap about Raditz or Nappa while Bardock cared so much for his teammates.

Gangsta SabZ · 05-12-2006

You honestly think that something like 2 days of being good got Bardock in heaven?... He wishes.

Pudge · 05-12-2006

I'm glad this is startng discussion. So I'll leave my own personal opion.

Hell:

Like Vegeta, he died in a sacrifice to save some people. But Vegeta had gone to Hell. So Like Vegeta though he died nobely he doesn't quite chance the fact of the all the people he killed like the Kanasians. I do wish him to go te heaven(since he is my favorite character) I believe he went to Hell as a spirit. Though in a Fanfic I made up I made him go to Heaven

Gozar · 05-13-2006

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Originally Posted by Gangsta SabZ

You honestly think that something like 2 days of being good got Bardock in heaven?... He wishes.

He was never evil to begin with though.

**LegendarySSJ7** · 05-13-2006

[quote user="Gozar"]He was never evil to begin with though.[/quote]

What do you mean he was never evil to begin with? He was just as bathetic and utterly ruthless as all the other Saiyans - he did Freeza's bidding, he destroyed entire worlds and civilizations and could care less about "innocent people". He was just like all the other Saiyans. He lived for the sport of fighting and for the amusement of destruction.

All of that doesn't qualify in the area of good-willed or good-hearted if you ask me...

Gozar · 05-13-2006

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Originally Posted by LegendarySSJ7

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Originally Posted by Gozar

He was never evil to begin with though.

What do you mean he was never evil to begin with? He was just as bathetic and utterly ruthless as all the other Saiyans - he did Freeza's bidding, he destroyed entire worlds and civilizations and could care less about "innocent people". He was just like all the other Saiyans. He lived for the sport of fighting and for the amusement of destruction.

All of that doesn't qualify in the area of good-willed or good-hearted if you ask me...

It was either that or die...Bardock loved to fight like his son but he didn't appear to me as ruthless & pure evil.

Teen Goten · 05-13-2006

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Originally Posted by Gozar

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Originally Posted by LegendarySSJ7

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Originally Posted by Gozar

He was never evil to begin with though.

What do you mean he was never evil to begin with? He was just as bathetic and utterly ruthless as all the other Saiyans - he did Freeza's bidding, he destroyed entire worlds and civilizations and could care less about "innocent people". He was just like all the other Saiyans. He lived for the sport of fighting and for the amusement of destruction.

All of that doesn't qualify in the area of good-willed or good-hearted if you ask me...

It was either that or die...Bardock loved to fight like his son but he didn't appear to me as ruthless & pure evil.

Bardock was evil. He not only enjoy fighting but he also enjoy destroying other planets.

JerrodDRagon · 05-13-2006

Ok Goku likes fighting to hell he goes.

Next he did not destroy planets, he took over planets and Frizea sold them.

He was born into a world of hate and violance if we remmeber right Goku was bad until he fell on his head.

Bardock had to fight until he could not take it any more and died fighting in what he believed in, thats a hero.

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Pudge (15) Super Namekian Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Illinois Posts: 422 Rep Power: 0	Bardock: Did he go heaven or hell? Bardock: The Father of Goku in which it wasn't said there and in the Manga he was there a whopping 2 panels looking fierce, which that also explains nothing! So here's some things to help stere your opions. Heaven: He died in an attempt to stop Freiza from blowing up the planet Vegeta and trying to avenge the death of his friends. His final fight was a nobel one. He tried to save the thousands of lives on Vegeta despit them mocking him he went to try and stop it. Hell(HFIL): Rather a simple one, he killed many people, not much thinking invovled there. He took over planets with his crew and did those bad things. Complications, Heaven: Though his fight to stop Freiza he wasn't exactly doing it to save innocent people of other planets, he was doing it for his planet. Which might make the heaven thing a little weird, was his fight for good or just simply to save what he wants. Complications. Hell(HFIL): It never really said he wanted to kill those people, before he threw his blast he said: "And this is for all the people we killed in your name! Here! Have it!" Throws blast. So he might have felt some regret for those people he killed since he said the kills wern't in his name. So mabey the killing he did wasn't as bad and heartless as it sounds. Now I thought for a while before I chose what Forum to put it in since it's called a TV special not a movie. But either way I came to GT/Movies because Bardock is not in the story line and so I chose here. I still don't know if this is the better Forum choice. So anyway, were do you think you Bardock went? Heaven? Or Hell(HFIL)? I guess I should put my OWN opion so I hope he wenr to heaven but I am probbaly leaning towards hell. __________________ And Jesus said: "I am the way, the truth, and the light. No one else can go to the father exept through me..." -John 14:6 (If you are offended by this no one forced you to read this signature.)

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DBAF Killer (21) Majin Warrior Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 1,619 Rep Power: 6	Re: Bardock: Did he go heaven or hell? Maybe Bardock's spirit is wandering around somewhere in space

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Gozar (17) Super Saiyan Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: The Future Posts: 742 Rep Power: 4	Re: Bardock: Did he go heaven or hell? I truley believe he went to heaven....he was under Freeza's rule, like with Vegeta, he never had the chance to become anything else, it was either kill or be killed. Also, he tried to atone for his sins by taking out Freeza, I believe Yemma would put him in heaven. __________________ "You hate the fact that your powerless to stop me, that your completly outmatched, well imagine feeling the way you do now all of the time like the people of this planet do. FOOLS, how do you think my Master Gohan felt when you ganged up on him in the rain and he had no way out. Well now it's your turn, I hope you enjoy it."-Trunks

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Gozar (17) Super Saiyan Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: The Future Posts: 742 Rep Power: 4	Re: Bardock: Did he go heaven or hell? But Vegeta didn't go to hell....did he? Yemma relized the change & kept him around. __________________ "You hate the fact that your powerless to stop me, that your completly outmatched, well imagine feeling the way you do now all of the time like the people of this planet do. FOOLS, how do you think my Master Gohan felt when you ganged up on him in the rain and he had no way out. Well now it's your turn, I hope you enjoy it."-Trunks

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Juissi (15) Super Namekian Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 414 Rep Power: 4	Re: Bardock: Did he go heaven or hell? I think that it isnt stated did Vegeta go hell or not Piccolo just said that he has done so much evil things in his life that he isnt going to heaven. So I say that Bardock went to Hell. Because dont you think that people who go to hell do some good things in their life. They just do so many bad things that it isnt balanced with their good deeds and thats why they go hell. __________________

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JerrodDRagon (23) Final Warrior Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: TO Posts: 2,725 Blog Entries: 2 Rep Power: 7	Re: Bardock: Did he go heaven or hell? Vegeta stayed at the check in station becuase they were going to try to bring him back for a day (like Goku did) So since Vegeta got a day to come back from the dead I am sure he went to heavon. Bardock went to heavon, he killed people becuase they had to not because he wanted to unlike Vegeta who killed Nappa his own partner. Bardock was a hero when he died, so he went to heavon. __________________ http://www.myspace.com/jerroddragon89 ^Request me as a Friend and Well Chat it up (just put on the request MFG, so I know its not spam)

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Gangsta SabZ (23) Final Warrior Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Leeds, UK Posts: 2,618 Rep Power: 8	Re: Bardock: Did he go heaven or hell? You honestly think that something like 2 days of being good got Bardock in heaven?... He wishes.

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Pudge (15) Super Namekian Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Illinois Posts: 422 Rep Power: 0	Re: Bardock: Did he go heaven or hell? I'm glad this is startng discussion. So I'll leave my own personal opion. Hell: Like Vegeta, he died in a sacrifice to save some people. But Vegeta had gone to Hell. So Like Vegeta though he died nobely he doesn't quite chance the fact of the all the people he killed like the Kanasians. I do wish him to go te heaven(since he is my favorite character) I believe he went to Hell as a spirit. Though in a Fanfic I made up I made him go to Heaven __________________ And Jesus said: "I am the way, the truth, and the light. No one else can go to the father exept through me..." -John 14:6 (If you are offended by this no one forced you to read this signature.)

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LegendarySSJ7 Moderator Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: LA. Posts: 2,895 Rep Power: 79	Re: Bardock: Did he go heaven or hell? [quote user="Gozar"]He was never evil to begin with though.[/quote] What do you mean he was never evil to begin with? He was just as bathetic and utterly ruthless as all the other Saiyans - he did Freeza's bidding, he destroyed entire worlds and civilizations and could care less about "innocent people". He was just like all the other Saiyans. He lived for the sport of fighting and for the amusement of destruction. All of that doesn't qualify in the area of good-willed or good-hearted if you ask me... __________________

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JerrodDRagon (23) Final Warrior Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: TO Posts: 2,725 Blog Entries: 2 Rep Power: 7	Re: Bardock: Did he go heaven or hell? Ok Goku likes fighting to hell he goes. Next he did not destroy planets, he took over planets and Frizea sold them. He was born into a world of hate and violance if we remmeber right Goku was bad until he fell on his head. Bardock had to fight until he could not take it any more and died fighting in what he believed in, thats a hero. __________________ http://www.myspace.com/jerroddragon89 ^Request me as a Friend and Well Chat it up (just put on the request MFG, so I know its not spam)