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Old 04-08-2008   #16 (permalink)
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Well basically he would leave his scouter on and some one would mention the dragonballs, and then Vegeta and Nappa come later kill every one take Raditz back who has retained some of his memories by this time.

Then Freeza eventually goes to Namek discovers the remaining sayians kill them and wishes for immortality and whatever else wants since he saved a few Nameks and forced them to wish the dragon for him.
Androids never come since Gero is like Goku is dead awsome and goes and does something else.

Babbidi comes to where ever Freeza happens to be, contols some of his minions and the Ginyu Force using them to summon Buu and Buu well Super Buu I guess by now absorbes Freeza, and rules the universe.
something like that.
I'm guessing you skipped the last movie of the scenario. On BT2, they already stated what happened afterwards. Raditz turned good and blew up Vegeta and Nappa's spaceships, killing himself in the proccess. And the Gero thing was different in each timeline. In Trunks' timeline, Goku had died and Gero's androids (IDK about Gero's own intentions) went to blow people up for fun all the time and basicly try to rule the world, but moe like a game than a sinister plot.
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No dude, TGD said he made a fanfic so...
Oh lol

It's not finished yet it's only a brief outline of the start. I dont want it to get unlogical (see below). I'm upto the point where Vegeta comes to Earth for the first time to find Nappa who has been surviving on Earth in his pod for 2 months.

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You didn't even take the details into account? Wouldn't Trunks get pissed off and go Super Saiyan, and if he wet back in time (which should be no different) why wouldn't he teach the Z-fighters to go super saiyan? Is there any reason not to? And if they were super sayan, wouldn't that set the elements right for the same kind of outcome to the androids saga as without the whole Raditz thing? It makes perfect sene.
JC did you like, forget about the whole process it even took for Goku to even consider being a Super Saiyan on Namek?
  • Because Raditz destroyed Vegeta and Nappas pods, there was no reason to go to Namek.
  • Goku missed out on King Kai's traning, and now he's missed out on the capsule training level on the journey to Namek.
  • Its silly when people are like "Oh they can TEACH them new levels". You can't just teach new levels. King Omega mentioned once that Goku could have taught Gohan Super Saiyan 3. When has Super Saiyan ever been taught? Gohan was helped by his dad in the RoSoT but he was not taught it seeing as he had the genes and just needed to train, teaching is like showing someone how to manipulate their ki to form a Kamekameha.
  • Goku was angry and stated himself that he couldn't control the Ssj form as soon as he became it. So you have a Goku who has missed out on alot of training, missed out on Kaioken, missed out on Freeza and being a Super Saiyan. Everything. And you expect him to just turn Super Saiyan in the Android saga, with the same PL and rationality and everything?
  • They haven't got Vegeta, he'l be dead, likely outcome is they'll probably be dead too.
  • How the fuck would Trunks teach Goku and Gohan Super Saiyan when they probably don't even have near the right power level.
That's what puts me off with fics, they miss out important sagas then expect them to just carry on in the anime or manga as normal when a certain event comes up

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I'm guessing you skipped the last movie of the scenario. On BT2, they already stated what happened afterwards. Raditz turned good and blew up Vegeta and Nappa's spaceships, killing himself in the proccess. And the Gero thing was different in each timeline. In Trunks' timeline, Goku had died and Gero's androids (IDK about Gero's own intentions) went to blow people up for fun all the time and basicly try to rule the world, but moe like a game than a sinister plot.
Edit button! *facepalms*

It's a fanfiction, it doesn't have to be the same as the game.
It's not like you had things exactly according to the game scenario.
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Thanks for the link. I'm gonna read it soon.
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Fact is in Budoukai Tenkaichi 2 when Raditz space craft crashed into the other two space craft it wouldn't have killed Vegeta or Nappa. After all its only an explosion.
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Radditz was a cool character to me. Japanese dub > English Dub.
Now he's a main character for me in BT2
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Yeah, I liked his what-if story.

As for Nappa and Vegeta surviving, say they did survive the impact of Raditz's ship into theirs. What would happen in the higher layers of the atmosphere once the Saiyans were exposed?
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What I don't get is Radditz was able to get his memory back but Goku did not.
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Son Goku didn't as such forget his memory; his personality changed. Really he had memory of nothing he was just a baby, whats a baby got to remember? Besides we know Grampa Gohan changed him to be kind and loving, so I really saw no point of him forgetting his memory. When a full moon hit he would have trampled anything in his path regardless if he had forgotten his memory or not as he was just a baby.
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Oh lol

It's not finished yet it's only a brief outline of the start. I dont want it to get unlogical (see below). I'm upto the point where Vegeta comes to Earth for the first time to find Nappa who has been surviving on Earth in his pod for 2 months.

http://anime.myfavoritegames.com/com...dditz-arc.html



JC did you like, forget about the whole process it even took for Goku to even consider being a Super Saiyan on Namek?
  • Because Raditz destroyed Vegeta and Nappas pods, there was no reason to go to Namek.
  • Goku missed out on King Kai's traning, and now he's missed out on the capsule training level on the journey to Namek.
  • Its silly when people are like "Oh they can TEACH them new levels". You can't just teach new levels. King Omega mentioned once that Goku could have taught Gohan Super Saiyan 3. When has Super Saiyan ever been taught? Gohan was helped by his dad in the RoSoT but he was not taught it seeing as he had the genes and just needed to train, teaching is like showing someone how to manipulate their ki to form a Kamekameha.
  • Goku was angry and stated himself that he couldn't control the Ssj form as soon as he became it. So you have a Goku who has missed out on alot of training, missed out on Kaioken, missed out on Freeza and being a Super Saiyan. Everything. And you expect him to just turn Super Saiyan in the Android saga, with the same PL and rationality and everything?
  • They haven't got Vegeta, he'l be dead, likely outcome is they'll probably be dead too.
  • How the fuck would Trunks teach Goku and Gohan Super Saiyan when they probably don't even have near the right power level.
That's what puts me off with fics, they miss out important sagas then expect them to just carry on in the anime or manga as normal when a certain event comes up



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It's a fanfiction, it doesn't have to be the same as the game.
It's not like you had things exactly according to the game scenario.
That wasn't the fanfic, that was what he thought would happen after the BT2 what-if, there is a fanfic but it is in the creative writing forum (from what I've heard on this thread).
I never said they would go to Namek
Yeah he mised out on that training, too bad I guess, but if Dr. Briefs made the ship anyway, he'd probably use it for the training eventually just because Goku is a training maniac or maybe because Trnks advised him to.
Sper Saiyan was touht to Goten (lol, by Chi-chi!? Kinda asn accident I guess) and then he taught it to Trunks, and I'm not sure if you could count Gohanm and Vegeta beause they were eally angry when they went SS but they were training ya know.
Maybe tey wouldn't be able to control it at first, but that dosn't really make a difference.
Maybe he'd train them to get a higher pl? Or maybe they don't really need a high pl, I hear that all the time but I've seemed to miss when it was actually stated that pl effects whether or not you can go SS
Also, I guess it would be different without Vegeta, but in the Cell saga that shouldn't make a big difference, the Freeza saga never happened of course, and I'd have to think about the Buu saga, maybe I'd have to edt the post about what I said bout the Buu saga, but I can't think of any effects to it right on the top of my head.
edit yes I did have everything exactly like the game scenario. I'm a nerd, nerds who like DBZ really take what they say about it seriousl, so I double checked by playing through the scenario really quikly.
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There would be no Trunks since there's no Vegeta. =]
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No Gotenks, no Trunks. Bulma would have married Yamcha.
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Ok, Raditz pod flies towards Nappa and Vegeta's causing a collison, and in the game it seemed to kill them. We can presume that the high atmospheric pressure of space (or just entering Earth) wouldn't allow Nappa and Vegeta to survive.

So with all the Saiyans gone apart from Goku. Goku, Krillin, Yamcha, Tien, Chaotzu, Gohan all liveo n Earth as normal, missing out the Namek Saga and missing out on Freeza... Goku missing out on the process it took to go Super Saiyan (death of Krillin and Vegeta etc).

Piccolo, i'm not sure, would probably still have a rivalry with Goku. In fact without Vegeta, Piccolo would be the new Vegeta in a way, always trying to help destroy Goku's enemies under the purpose of 'wanting to finish Goku off himself'.

So Mecha Freeza and King Cold would have never come to Earth when they did, meaning the time travelling Trunks wouldn't have to come to Earth to help defend it and would have arrived much later to Goku. Oh wait, NO TRUNKS, because Vegeta is f***ing dead!

The Z Senshi missed out on alot of training, and the Androids wouldn't have gotten any weaker.

So does anyone in their right mind think that the Z Senshi stand any chance against, even Androids 19 and 20, when various characters they never fought in the Namek saga would be too much? Trunks would have but he was never born because Vegeta had died.

Dudes, they all die in the Android saga.

It's just like Future Trunks' Timeline without the Trunks and just the Future Gohan. All the Z Senshi die, Goku first with the heart virus (Becauser Trunks never gave him the cure), then the others get killed by 17 and 18.

Future Gohan dies in the same way.

There isn't even an Imperfect Cell saga yet alone Majin Buu saga.

JC I hope you're taking notes.
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That all seems right. But how would Gero get Z Fighter cells from Vegeta, and others for the Androids.
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That all seems right. But how would Gero get Z Fighter cells from Vegeta, and others for the Androids.
Well he wouldn't for Vegeta or Trunka as they wouldn't have existed, apart from that... I imagine he would just get the data the same way he did before (if he could). When did Gero get the data originally anyway?

Note: Another thing, Piccolo would be much weaker because he never fused with Nail. And Freeza has yet to come to Earth and pwn all the (much weaker in this timeline) Z noobs.
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Z noobs, lol.

As for the DNA for the androids, I think he got them from when they returned from Namek.
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