Goku vs Vegeta What if... - Page 2

king omega · 02-06-2008

I think Goku would Vegeta win, but Vegeta would notice Goku was holding back so after the tornement they would fight some where else.

The Green Dragon · 02-06-2008

king omega pretty much has it right.

The thing is, Vegeta knew anyway that Goku was holding back his Ssj2 form... that's the reason Vegeta became Majin Vegeta in the first place.

Goku would win, then Vegeta would go back to his insane training routine like he did pre-Cell era, but no matter what Vegeta will do... he will always be second best to Goku.

It's Vegeta's purpose in life, to fight Kakarot and lose... causing him to train and train to fight Kakarot again and repeat the process. Then when Goku fights a bad guys, Vegeta will lend a hand as he will want to be the only person who will beat Goku, thus helping Goku save the world. I mean if Vegeta beat Kakarot say, he wouldn't be obsessed with a rematch and would never help Goku save the world.

Half the bad guys Goku has fought, Vegeta has lent a hand... the reason? "Only I will beat Kakarot".

If Vegeta beats Goku, there would be nothing in it for him anymore, Vegeta wouldn't become a good guy... he'll probably be a grumpy miserable bastard for the rest of his life.

The Electron Zone · 02-06-2008

It depends...the SSJ3 Form puts some stress on Goku's body so if Vegeta avoids Goku long enough he might be able to drain his power down and then go after him...either or it's hard to decide

Madness · 02-06-2008

Well Vegeta would be able to use SSJ and SSJ2. Goku had SSJ, SSJ2 and SSJ3.

Advantage Goku.

But the Z Fighters rarely use Super Saiyan forms for "friendly" sorta matches, so I doubt the forms would've come into it, unless they ventured outside the arena for it.

And of course... if Vegeta was in SSJ2 and and Goku was in SSJ3 - Vegeta would get torn apart. He wouldn't be able to drag the match out, because Goku's superior speed would track him down and his superior strength would pummel him lol.

The Green Dragon · 02-07-2008

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Originally Posted by Madness

Well Vegeta would be able to use SSJ and SSJ2. Goku had SSJ, SSJ2 and SSJ3.

Advantage Goku.

But the Z Fighters rarely use Super Saiyan forms for "friendly" sorta matches, so I doubt the forms would've come into it, unless they ventured outside the arena for it.

And of course... if Vegeta was in SSJ2 and and Goku was in SSJ3 - Vegeta would get torn apart. He wouldn't be able to drag the match out, because Goku's superior speed would track him down and his superior strength would pummel him lol.

Vegeta can't even go Ssj2, that's why he sold his sol to Babidi, because he wanted to achieve his potential and 'max out' (aka. reach Ssj2) so he could face Goku.

Madness · 02-07-2008

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Originally Posted by The Green Dragon

Vegeta can't even go Ssj2, that's why he sold his sol to Babidi, because he wanted to achieve his potential and 'max out' (aka. reach Ssj2) so he could face Goku.

Not true. There is plenty of evidence that Vegeta could go Super Saiyan 2 before the Majin powerup. The only thing Vegeta used the Majin powerup to do was to "close the gap" between him and Goku. He never used it to ascend.

Ultimate_Gohan · 02-07-2008

He used the power-up to be almost as strong as Goku and at the same time thinking it would make him all-evil so he wouldn't have to worry about anything like Earth, Majinbuu etc.

LSSJ4 · 03-04-2008

Vegeta wanted to be that "killer" again, and thats the only reason he whent Majin. He believed thats what would give him the edge, not that silly little Power-up. The only thing that gave Goku that gap was all the help he got from Otherworld.

burningvegeta · 03-04-2008

If Vegeta only really stands chance without Goku holding back is in their base forms. Super Saiyan transformations boost people's base forms. Since Son Goku has acheived Super Saiyan 3. Goku wins.

Super Ultimate Gohan · 03-04-2008

In base form, it would be even and it would come down to who makes the first mistake, also with super saiyan it would come down to who makes the first mistake...

Now if they went super saiyan 2 kakarrot would have the advantake, because the Majin closed the gap with their super saiyan 2 power. Super saiyan 2 vegeta was still more powerful than gohan was against cell, but was still behind super saiyan 2 kakarrot.

burningvegeta · 03-04-2008

It wouldn't be even unless Goku chooses to make it even, he has a boost of Super Saiyan 3 where Vegeta does not.

Super Ultimate Gohan · 03-04-2008

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Originally Posted by burningvegeta

It wouldn't be even unless Goku chooses to make it even, he has a boost of Super Saiyan 3 where Vegeta does not.

This may sound a llt farfetched, but I think the only reason kakarrot's super saiyan 2 power is because of super saiyan 3.

Ryat! · 03-06-2008

Even if Goku and Vegeta refused to use any SSj transformations during their bout, Goku would still sit on top for the majority of the fight. Though both fighters trained during the 7 years, Vegeta's training being less than that of Goku's (both due to Goku's ability to battle stronger opponents in Other World and Vegeta's lack of motivation since Goku's death, though I cannot recall if this is filler or not).

After achieving two new SSj levels, Goku's base form would ultimately become stronger over time, as would Vegeta's, just not as much of an increase. I might come off as redundant, my apologies.

To the SSj2/Majin scuffle:

Vegeta allowed Babidi to control his mind in order to bridge the gap between SSj2 Goku and SSj (or SSj2) Vegeta; though I am convinced this transformation allowed Vegeta to reach SSj2. When Vegeta stated he wanted to be his old self, he felt that the love for his family restricted his ability to push his limits; letting go of those vaules allowed him to focus only becoming more powerful than Goku.

Madness · 03-06-2008

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Originally Posted by Ryat!

Even if Goku and Vegeta refused to use any SSj transformations during their bout, Goku would still sit on top for the majority of the fight. Though both fighters trained during the 7 years, Vegeta's training being less than that of Goku's (both due to Goku's ability to battle stronger opponents in Other World and Vegeta's lack of motivation since Goku's death, though I cannot recall if this is filler or not).

After achieving two new SSj levels, Goku's base form would ultimately become stronger over time, as would Vegeta's, just not as much of an increase. I might come off as redundant, my apologies.

To the SSj2/Majin scuffle:

Vegeta allowed Babidi to control his mind in order to bridge the gap between SSj2 Goku and SSj (or SSj2) Vegeta; though I am convinced this transformation allowed Vegeta to reach SSj2. When Vegeta stated he wanted to be his old self, he felt that the love for his family restricted his ability to push his limits; letting go of those vaules allowed him to focus only becoming more powerful than Goku.

I don't know how you can think that the Majin seal allowed Vegeta to go SSJ2. Its not even as if the Majin seal process took him straight up to SSJ2 cos it didn't. He was at SSJ at that point.

Ryat! · 03-06-2008

I had always figured that Vegeta was at his peak while in SSj, but with Babidi's help he'd surpass his own limits, reaching SSj2.

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The Green Dragon (24) Super Saiyan 4 Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Lloegr Posts: 3,218 Blog Entries: 2 Rep Power: 135	Re: Goku vs Vegeta What if... king omega pretty much has it right. The thing is, Vegeta knew anyway that Goku was holding back his Ssj2 form... that's the reason Vegeta became Majin Vegeta in the first place. Goku would win, then Vegeta would go back to his insane training routine like he did pre-Cell era, but no matter what Vegeta will do... he will always be second best to Goku. It's Vegeta's purpose in life, to fight Kakarot and lose... causing him to train and train to fight Kakarot again and repeat the process. Then when Goku fights a bad guys, Vegeta will lend a hand as he will want to be the only person who will beat Goku, thus helping Goku save the world. I mean if Vegeta beat Kakarot say, he wouldn't be obsessed with a rematch and would never help Goku save the world. Half the bad guys Goku has fought, Vegeta has lent a hand... the reason? "Only I will beat Kakarot". If Vegeta beats Goku, there would be nothing in it for him anymore, Vegeta wouldn't become a good guy... he'll probably be a grumpy miserable bastard for the rest of his life. __________________ "TGD" "*One time this ciggy lolligagger dicked on my snatch.* Un amsera hon ffagod butain dicked acha 'm snatch." [MFG Reputation Guide for Beginners]\|[-ORLY?-]\|[-YA RLY!-]\|[Lolage]\|[.stan]

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Madness Commander Madness (29) King of Soul Society Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Seeing how long I can make this entry, simply for lol reasons. Maybe I can make it stretch to the o- Posts: 9,152 Blog Entries: 9 Rep Power: 165	Re: Goku vs Vegeta What if... Well Vegeta would be able to use SSJ and SSJ2. Goku had SSJ, SSJ2 and SSJ3. Advantage Goku. But the Z Fighters rarely use Super Saiyan forms for "friendly" sorta matches, so I doubt the forms would've come into it, unless they ventured outside the arena for it. And of course... if Vegeta was in SSJ2 and and Goku was in SSJ3 - Vegeta would get torn apart. He wouldn't be able to drag the match out, because Goku's superior speed would track him down and his superior strength would pummel him lol. __________________

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Ultimate_Gohan Bleach Ranked (25) Vasto Lorde Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 4,057 Blog Entries: 4 Rep Power: 155	Re: Goku vs Vegeta What if... He used the power-up to be almost as strong as Goku and at the same time thinking it would make him all-evil so he wouldn't have to worry about anything like Earth, Majinbuu etc.

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LSSJ4 (4) Turtle School Disciple Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 26 Rep Power: 0	Re: Goku vs Vegeta What if... Vegeta wanted to be that "killer" again, and thats the only reason he whent Majin. He believed thats what would give him the edge, not that silly little Power-up. The only thing that gave Goku that gap was all the help he got from Otherworld.

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Super Ultimate Gohan (21) Majin Warrior Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 1,638 Rep Power: 5	Re: Goku vs Vegeta What if... In base form, it would be even and it would come down to who makes the first mistake, also with super saiyan it would come down to who makes the first mistake... Now if they went super saiyan 2 kakarrot would have the advantake, because the Majin closed the gap with their super saiyan 2 power. Super saiyan 2 vegeta was still more powerful than gohan was against cell, but was still behind super saiyan 2 kakarrot. __________________ *"Yes it has been too long, now I am back and better than ever!"*