JammyBleached

[quote user="Broly: God of Death"]I totally agree with you Mighty Goku. But as you said, Toriyama-Sensei wont continue Z. Perhaps someone else......TOEI...definatley not.....Funimation....no.....someone new that would not make plotholes and make good dubbing and action and good music and story......YES!!! No ones gonna do that though.
Pisses me off!!![angry][angry][angry]
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What does FUNimation have to do with making AF?

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SaiyajinPerfection

I doubt Toriyama would even think about making another series, his original planned ending was actually the Furiza Arc. His wife convinced him to continue until the Buu arc where he said, no more. Dragonball took too much time away from his family, and he's signed no contracts with Toei giving them permission to continue after GT.
It would be cool if they re-did GT with Toriyama's storyline, that would be great to see!

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Broly

[*-)] Actually come to think of it they really dont have anything to do with AF, but sometimes they do make some dubbing mistakes.

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SaiyajinPerfection

[quote user="Broly: God of Death"][*-)] Actually come to think of it they really dont have anything to do with AF, but sometimes they do make some dubbing mistakes.[/quote]
They make a TON of Dubbing mistakes. Half the things that the characters say in the English Episodes aren't in the original japanese ones.

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Broly

Well yeah, they cant translate japanese into english word for word, but they can rephrase the sentences so the characters are saying the same thing. Just not exactly the same thing. Thats what dubbin is all about. They need to lip sync english, or itll look like those old kung fu movies.

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sosulli

If you're seriously asking me this, I'd like to apologize in advance: this really gets me mad nowadays.
Several years ago Dragon Ball GT came out. Unfortunately, Dragon Ball creator and head writer of Dragon Ball and Dragon Ball Z Akira Toriyama didn't write this one. A new writer came by, and took over. Fans hated it. With ratings lagging and the fan base dwelling, Toriyama came back towards the end. He took over and finished up the critically pannedGT, then declared no more new Dragon Ball series. Period.
But a few years ago, great news came out! A new series was coming out: Dragon Ball AF! It featured Goku reaching Super Saiya-Jin level 5(at left) and Pan achieving Super Saiya-Jin, as well as the return of Radditz, now a Super Saiya-Jin! Fans jumped up and down, wondering when this amazing, great new series was coming out!
Then we hear of Dragon Ball DR, which would come out afterwards! And the fans grew more and more anxious.
It's been officially confirmed folks: those series aren't real.
Some fanboy found a pic of a guy in an anime who looks a lot like Goku (Presumably Brolly in a lower form). What exactly does he look like? Just look to your left, folks. The pic was doctored up and a fake "Dragon Ball AF" logo was stamped on the bottom, then released, claiming the pic was Goku at Super Saiya-Jin level 5. As for the pic of Radditz as a Super Saiya-Jin, it'svery, very obvious that the pic is from his appearance in "the Saiya-Jin Saga" with his hair photoshopped gold. It's very easy to do, trust me. The Pan image is also fake, not only because of the DBAF logo, but because Toriyama himself confirmed that female Saiya-Jins cannot transform (not to mention her eyes are blue, not green).
I'm still not sure who the fanboy is, and he's very, very lucky for that. You see, not a week goes by that I don't hear something about Goku at Super Saiya-Jin 5. Some idiot always comes out and asks about it.
The bottom line is this: the series do not exist, they will never exist. There is no Dragon Ball AF, Dragon Ball DR, it's all a bunch of Dragon Ball BS. They don't exist. Dragon Ball GT is the end of Dragon Ball. It's very sad, but with a total of over 300 episodes, the Dragon Ball story is plenty long enough to hold you for life

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SaiyajinPerfection

[quote user="Broly: God of Death"]Well yeah, they cant translate japanese into english word for word, but they can rephrase the sentences so the characters are saying the same thing. Just not exactly the same thing. Thats what dubbin is all about. They need to lip sync english, or itll look like those old kung fu movies.[/quote]
I know that you can't translate word for word, but the DBZ dub has actually been voted the worst Dub EVER done (in any genre) because of it's lack of ties to the original phrases and quotes. Example:
Goku: (Original Japanese Quote) "I think you already know. I am a Saiyan, sent from Earth to destroy you. I am a legendary warrior, With a pure heart awakened by rage. Son Goku, The Super Saiyan!!!!!"
Goku: (Dubbed Quote): "I am the hope of the Universe, I am the answer to all living things who cry out for peace. I am protector of the innocent, I am the light in the darkness, I am truth............ Ally to good, nightmare to you!!!!!"
Those two quotes don't look too much alike to me..... and that in my opinion is probably one of the more important quotes during the Furiza arc.
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I agree Shandarkh: That SS5 Goku picture looks a lot more like Broly to me. The pan picture is not accurate and even the manga AF scan (I don't know who sent the links on this forum, but someone did) Gohan should not be a Super Saiyan 4 because it is stated that only Pure Saiyans can become Super Saiyan 4 (which explains why Bebi Vegeta couldn't become one even though he could surpass SS4 Goku in power at Golden Oozaru).

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JammyBleached

[quote user="demonkingpiccolo"]I know that you can't translate word for word, but the DBZ dub has actually been voted the worst Dub EVER done (in any genre) because of it's lack of ties to the original phrases and quotes. Example:
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Don't place your opinion as a fact. DBZ dub has never ever been classed as a bad dub in any shape or form, what you are merely stating is what the fanboys of DBZ are saying. The original Dragon Ball dub in 1990 can be classed as one of the worst dubs ever because Goku was named Zack and, well you should of watched it.
Sometimes it is necassary to change some lines so that they make sense in English. And have to match words up to the lips. They don't change the story but re route it to another time where it can fit more appropriatly.
If we will talk opinions, i class the Japanese version of DBZ one of the worst dubs i've ever heard because i think it sucks horribly because the voices are terrible and the music pierces your ears.

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SaiyajinPerfection

[quote user="Jammy"][quote user="demonkingpiccolo"] I know that you can't translate word for word, but the DBZ dub has actually been voted the worst Dub EVER done (in any genre) because of it's lack of ties to the original phrases and quotes. Example:
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Don't place your opinion as a fact. DBZ dub has never ever been classed as a bad dub in any shape or form, what you are merely stating is what the fanboys of DBZ are saying. The original Dragon Ball dub in 1990 can be classed as one of the worst dubs ever because Goku was named Zack and, well you should of watched it.
Sometimes it is necassary to change some lines so that they make sense in English. And have to match words up to the lips. They don't change the story but re route it to another time where it can fit more appropriatly.
If we will talk opinions, i class the Japanese version of DBZ one of the worst dubs i've ever heard because i think it sucks horribly because the voices are terrible and the music pierces your ears.
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That wasn't my opinion, that is a fact according to the official Anime Insider Magazine (wish I could find the issue). And I apologize for only hearing about this Goku named Zack, but in 1990 not only was I not exposed to Dragonball yet, but my family was too poor to have TV, so I couldn't officially be called a "fanboy" as of that time.
Goku stating that he is a Super Saiyan (see in my last post's example), reguardless of exact wording or not, seems to me to be.........pretty important and simple to translate and correspond to the movements of the mouth at the same time. Other phrases are added in as well if you've ever seen, while the characters saying the phrases aren't in plain sight or are too far away to notice lip movements. This happens more often then it should.
So talk away if you wanna talk about opinions. I'm listening. [b]
And why are we arguing about this, isn't this discussion supposed to be about AF?

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Goku2212

[quote user="ninten"]dragonballaf shoode be made><!!!![/quote]
stop posting that, and learn to spell correctly.
Well, my favourite was that everyone fused together to create some awesome guy with everyones name in :/ thats so lame

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ssbib

[quote user="The Chibi Kiriyama"] AF is a series that will never be and why people still cling on to the possibility that Toriyama will delve again into the mess GT created through it's existence is beyond me when he's stated otherwise time and time again. But if it comes down to my "favorite rumor", Goku going Super Saiyan 666 after being possessed by Satan and starting the apocalypse has to be the most humorous fan-created rumor on the subject.
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I never heard that but it sure sounds crazy. I am glad that AF never existed but I'm pleased fans enjoy talking about it. Personally, I think they went too far with GT. I'm not saying they shouldn't have made that extra series but it just went in the wrong direction about it. It has some great potential that just wasn't reached.

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The Chibi Kiriyama

Canon refers to what applies to the original series. Non-canon refers to expansions outside of a natural extension of the original series. Fanfiction is what AF currently is- a fan derivitive of the original series that is neither recognized as canon nor non-canon material (sometimes referred to as "fanon"). Calling AF non-canon implies that it is an observed expansion to the original series, which in the truest sense it is not. While it's not my place to wonder as to why the imagination must manifest itself in constant GT sequels, it should be noted that AF will remain "fanon" until Toriyama, Toei Ltd. or someone else with the Dragon Ball license concludes otherwise.

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Joker216

My favorite theory was that Son Goku became evil and Vegeta became the good guy.

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