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Old 06-18-2006   #16 (permalink)
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Why? It ruined DBZ's rep. It sucked toDBZ it was nothing new they were trying to copy both DB and DBZ come on try somethign new. It had way TOO many ploy holes they just did not try enough on GT, I could have improved by myself and I bet if we got me and 10 other DBZ fans from this site we could have done 1000 times better than Toei.
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Old 06-18-2006   #17 (permalink)
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To me AF is a show where Goku is shown to reach Super Saiyan levels unheard of throughout the series, everyone else spends their time catching up to his level of power either through fusion or by transformations, the villains perform fusion or transform to temporarily trump him, a fusion by which the like we have never seen appears and everything is wished back to perfection with the Dragon Balls.

AF was already shown. It was called ""Dragon Ball GT". As expected, it was run into the ground.
That right there is the entire plotline to Dragonball z. AF and GT would just be Dragonball z over again but if there was to be another series, they could maintain the seriousness of Dragonball z and not try to give the sequel such a humerous aspect as they did the "Lost Episodes" of GT. As I said, Dragonball z is about getting stronger and stronger some way or another as the Earth is threatened. Also, melee combat is what Dragonball Z different and they did it pretty well too.

Edit: What I would like to see in a sequel would be one that includes GT but discredits it, ie. Super Saiyan 4 turns out to be a transformation that leads on its own line. I would also like Toei to make a definate answer of who really is the Legendary Super Saiyan so it can be put to rest of who really is the myth and who is ordinary. I also wouldn't mind seeing more about the different galaxies that are mentioned.
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Old 06-18-2006   #18 (permalink)
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Hell NO! AF is the fanfiction from hell! [thumbdown] It's just a bunch
of fan created crap put together into one false rumor. Though I would
like to see a mini series that finishes where Dragonball Z left off.
The only thing I like about GT was that it brought the ape
transformation back into the Saiyan equation. Too much stuff from
Dragonball and early DBZ Toryiama forgot about. Still I don't really
welcome the idea of seriously considering a new series as it would
probably suck as much as GT. The same goes for this "live action" movie
thing. I know some people think it would be fantastic but a lot of
movies in the past few years have really been crappy and I doubt anyone
(least of all FOX Studios) could pull off a translation of the
manga/anime into a live action film (though Sin City was a well made
comic to screen film).

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Old 06-23-2006   #19 (permalink)
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Old 07-01-2006   #20 (permalink)
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IF Af were to come, and be anything like Dragonball Gt it would just about be the end of it all for me. Dragonball Gt was discustingly bad. The plot, terrible. The characters, terrible. The sagas, terrible. Pretty much everything about GT was horrifying. And being Gt had nothing to do really with Akira, AF wouldn't be much different. Af would be another failure.
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I personally liked the Baby saga best of all on all of GT.
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Just if it replaced GT and was something like a new Dragon Ball Z. The same action and genius ideas. Oh, and by the way, no transforamtions beyond SSJ3.
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Old 11-17-2006   #23 (permalink)
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Yeah... if only Dragonball had ended in the Cell saga... but it didn't, so we have to cope with the fact that there is a bearable and relatively enjoyable continuation called "Buu saga", and a mediocre to incomparable-in-quality-to-DBZ continuation called "Dragonball GT", let alone the many spin-offs called "DB/Z/GT movies" which left me completely indifferent...
I would like Dragonball AF to exist if it could stand up to the quality of Dragonball Z. I mean I can tolerate a mediocre sequel to Dragonball/Z, my all-time favourite anime series, and enjoy it as long as I avoid comparisons with Z, or even with the original DB (oh, and by "Z" I mean "Z" until the end of Cell saga". The rest I just don't want to consider a part of Z, just something like GT), but if I see another one, with more Super Saiyan levels and a thousand more fusions and past enemies coming to destroy the world again and Goku stopping them single-handedly without even the slightest help from the others, and in the end, Goku becoming the absolute hyper-super-mega God of every dimension, then no, I would despise it, and I wouldn't fall to the level of watching it. For things like that, there are the fanfictions, thank you, which I enjoy reading A LOT, but make a television series about Goku becoming one more time the savior of the universe... no. And because I'm sure if DBAF existed, regardless of whether it was made by TOEI or fans-fanboys, it would be just like that, no, I wouldn't like it to exist. True Dragonball fans know the series ended in Z, at least some point during Z, and respect this ending, considering everything else pure imagination and funny add-ons, that have little to do with the actual series. That's how I view the matter, at least. Dragonball was Akira Toriyama's masterpiece, a true work of art, and TOEI shouldn't have messed with it.
Why can't the guys in TOEI make a series about Vegeta coming to this dimension and destroying the buildings where the production centre of TOEI animation is, because he is angry that they screwed up the Dragonball series?
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Default Re: Would you want there to be an AF "if" it existed?

I wanted the series to end at the Freeza saga, so my answer to the question would be a definitive no.
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Default Re: Would you want there to be an AF "if" it existed?

I LOVED Dragonball and DragonBall Z, but Dragonball Gt was really horrible. The ending was good, but the overall series was basically just Dragonball on a universal (rather than global) scale. If dragonballaf existed, I don't think it would be any better. in fact, it would probaly be worse.Unless, of course, Akira toriyama worked on it. Still, i don't think it would measure up to the standards of DBZ.
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Old 11-21-2006   #26 (permalink)
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Yes, I'd love it if:
1. There's no Future Trunks. C'mon, do we need two Trunks?
2. The fusion of Gotenks is more realistic that what I've been from fan fiction. Right now, the drawings suggest that Gotenks will look the same as in Z, but if AF is after GT, and both Goten and Trunks have grown up, shouldn't the fused Gotenks reflect on this aspect, too?
3. Cell, Freeza, Cooler, and many other villians don't return. In GT, Goku "defeated" them by freezing them, and isn't it true that you are no longer existed in any way if you died twice? Besides, we don't need redundancy (sp) of villains that we've defeated at least twice before both in movies and the anime.
4. Having said that, I'd love to see Raditz and Broly back as stronger fighters. Raditz is Goku's brother, so he should at least be competitble with him. Broly is one of a kind, and if he goes SSJ4, he'd be awesome (I'll post my opinion on that in the appropriate thread). I know He appeared on 3 DBZ movies, but he's priceless.
5. If it doesn't adopt the proposed storyline. I don't like the beginning how Goku makes love to a woman in his dreams and conceives a kid. That's both sick and ridiculous. Some versions have Trunks dating Pan. Isn't Trunks about ten years older than her? I do like the idea of how Goku acts as the Eternal Dragon and can goes SSJ5 but don't like hoe he turns evil when he cannot bare the power. If one cannot bare the power, wouldn't he just collapse? The last episode of DBGT with the glimpse of Goku Jr. and Vegeta Jr. suggests that there might be a future series, and I'd love to see them fight and fuse. I also like the fact that the villians want to kill the Saiyans and them only instead of destructing the world and bothering civilians. And if there's a new earring that can fuse with three people, then let Gohan fuse with Gotenks to make Gohanks.
6. Just don't end the series with another Spirit Bomb of any kind. Defeat the villians with your powers and not relying on innocent people's energy. It wouldn't have any Spirit Bomb since there won't be any civilians involved.
7. Earthlings should be dead if AF is set at the time proposed, so it'll make points 5 and 6 more possible. I know it'd be a bit boring without Mr. Satan and other Earthling warriors and supporting casts, but it'd cause more tension to the fights.
8. If Pan becomes a Super Saiyan and beyond. She has the powers to, and the only thing that prevents her is her diluted blood, according to what I've read online, but it's not true since Gohan, Goten, Goku Jr. and Vegeta Jr. can turn into Super Saiyans easily. The problem with Pan is that, in the last episode of GT and in the GT Special, Pan is an old woman when Goku Jr. combats Vegeta Jr. in the World Martial Arts Tournament, so that whipes out any hopes of an SSJ Pan or Trunks dating her.
9. If there's no SSJ 7 or beyond. It's ridiculous to see a drawing of SSJ10 Goku. I don't mind SSJ5, or SSJ6 as a result of powering up after fusion to counter and defeat a final opponent, but you can't just keep on adding SS levels because it'll be redundant. Some of the drawings of higher level warriors looks ridiculous. I've read on a Webpage that SSJ6 is the untimate/highest power level anyone can achieve, so just leave it at that.
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I would like there to be AF if ssj5 is the last transformation
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The only way to make AF enjoyable is to RESTART. I'm talking, everyone dead except Pan, Vegeta Jr., Goku Jr., and Vegeta's mom. Then it could work. Not only that, but it should follow DBZ, and try and limit any mention of events that occurred in DBGT. Also, they should remake the afterworld, so if anyone dies, we never see their ancestors. I want new enemies, and maybe a new race. Also, there should be a saga where a race is trying to take over the Earth like real aliens. If any other character is added from the former sagas, then big plot holes are gonna start popping up. Also, the SSJ4 transformation should be achieved differently. Also, I wouldn't call it Dragon Ball( ), I would call it Z Warriors, so they wouldn't have to depend on the Dragon Balls for everything. And for god sakes, I would add a Female SSJ.
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i say we first redo dbgt reintroduce the human z-fighters let goku sit out of a fight once in a while like most the time (we'll give him one enemy most likely baby) make sure gohan never goes ssj cause ultimate gohan is stronger then ssj3 and he can't go ssj4 then i say we put one more saga in gt then we'll see if we need an af (which officailly stands for april fools)
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The only way to make AF enjoyable is to RESTART. I'm talking, everyone dead except Pan, Vegeta Jr., Goku Jr., and Vegeta's mom. Then it could work. Not only that, but it should follow DBZ, and try and limit any mention of events that occurred in DBGT. Also, they should remake the afterworld, so if anyone dies, we never see their ancestors. I want new enemies, and maybe a new race. Also, there should be a saga where a race is trying to take over the Earth like real aliens. If any other character is added from the former sagas, then big plot holes are gonna start popping up. Also, the SSJ4 transformation should be achieved differently. Also, I wouldn't call it Dragon Ball( ), I would call it Z Warriors, so they wouldn't have to depend on the Dragon Balls for everything. And for god sakes, I would add a Female SSJ.
girls cant go ssj
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