do you think goku can take the power of going super saiyan 5 - Page 4

burningvegeta · 01-08-2008

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Originally Posted by sportsfreak99

SSJ5 will never happen. Only Gogeta can and Vegito if they have potara earrings.
Its too much to take for one body.

You happen to be worng, instead of me writing I going to create "another" awesome burningvegeta diagram:

(be right back)

LSSJ4 · 01-08-2008

SS5, Nope, but maybe since Goku's with Shenron now, something like A High Saiyin or Mystic Saiyan would serve him well. Just dont have that be the whole dang story, maybe a huge climax or something to end AF. After all he is training with Shenron... What ya think?

burningvegeta · 01-08-2008

^^Maybe, but then his would not be a Saiyan Goku would be a Dragon Saiyan Hybrid^^

Quote:

Originally Posted by burningvegeta

You happen to be worng, instead of me writing I going to create "another" awesome burningvegeta diagram:

(be right back)

^__^

**Broly** · 01-09-2008

Super Saiyan 4 didn't show any signs of life threatening ki drainage. What makes you think an SSj5 state would make a Saiyan die?

burningvegeta · 01-09-2008

Easy when Goku was on Earth whilst being dead he transformed into a Super Saiyan 3, twice that used up his life energy. SSj4 didn't but the Fusion dance of Super Saiyan 4 Goku and Vegeta did: Super Saiyan 4 Gogeta, thus the time limit was short, shorter than Super Saiyan 3 Gotenks.

Strain:SSj3 (Goku and Gotenks) >> SSj4 Gogeta >> SSj5 Goku >> SSj5 Vegetto

Now a Super Saiyan 5 beyond the limit of Super Saiyan 4 will create a strain making a Saiyan die, the Old Kai pretty much stated that whilst being fused. Imagine if transforming into a Super Saiyan 5 instanly upon transforming they would die, as the time limit wouldn't be able to contain the strain. </p>As Gotenks SSj3 instant transformation was 15 minutes

Gogeta SSj4 was 5 minutes wasn't it, or was it ten. The number of time represnts or substitutes the strain. Since SSj5 is soo power lets go with the flow of the time limits thats 5minutes, and if its as power as people say it is it could be instant death Broly. Just my opinion though....

**Broly** · 01-09-2008

The timelimit really has nothing to do with ki drainage. The time limit was shortened, there ki wasn't drained. Notice, that's why SSj3 Gotenks powered down to base near the end of his fight with Shin Buu. He ran out of energy first, then defused second. It's not the same case with SSj4 Gogeta, and that's why I feel the SSj4 ki drain is no where near as strenuous as SSj3.

burningvegeta · 01-09-2008

Hmmm after reanalyzing the things you brought up Broly, I see what you mean. SSj4 Goku fought without giving any point of there being any strain, compared to when he was fighting in SSj3. What about Vegeta, after the fusion wore off. Vegeta reverted back to his Base when he believed Syn Shenron was killed, wehn he powered up again he couldn't go back into his SSj4 state. This helps my defense of SSj4 taking up huge amounts of energy.

John Sabala · 01-09-2008

I've listen to your replys on how he could'nt transform or how that word again, "(strain)". Keeps comming up as the reason that ss5 couldn't be possible. Broly, GT DID NOT SUCK, THE ONLY REASON YOU GUYS LIKE dbz better is because DBGT didn't prolong it. It got straight to the point and the battle began. DBZ was like a soap opera, it just wouldn't get to the fight, just talk and talk for about 3 episodes, and that talk reached to fans like us and convinced some of you fans that it might be impossilble to take it to the next level. Remember when Supreme kai was shocked to see the impossiblities that these saiyans can acheive. So that is another peice of evidence that states it is possible with Goku and Vegeta. Just like Jurassic park, when 1 scientist quoted "(life finds away)". And how many times you here impossible, even in that movie. But sure enough his transform began, So if Dragonball AF had goku and vegeta transform, "(what then)". Let me guess everybody would hate it because it wasn't suppose to happen wright. Hmph, pathetic how people get so upset because it didn't go there way, because of some TALK during the earlier seasons during the series. In anime series it is always possibilities. You can figure out ways to acheive the transformation by comming up with different ideas that can work with the series. Like for an example "(A Mystical dragon ball that was created by the nameks a very long time ago and was thought to be a legend)". This ball would remove STRAIN, HAHAHAHA to a fighter so the fighter can achieve the impossibilities. But this ball can look into a fighters heart and only allows its power to do good. And the ball can see evil or goodness into a heart of a fighter trying to acheive this power. Lets just say nail speaks through piccillo, and tells them of this mystical power that Guru told him of it, when he was alive, since he was always protecting Guru. Yes, and that means piccillo can become strong too, for all you piccillo fans and any Z fighters. Ya see possibilities. It can work, so quit trying to assume that it is impossible. To any fan out there, please help me spread the word and sign the petition of Dragonball AF be made. PLEASE PEOPLE NO MORE BAD TALK ABOUT DRAGONBALL GT. The song was cool, the look was cool, the transformation was cool, the ENDING SUCKED!!!!!!! BIGBANGKAMEHAMEHAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Now i have to go train myself, forgot to mention that I am a fighter myself, "(Shocked anyone)". Did someone asked how old I was ?

burningvegeta · 01-09-2008

Yesh Sabala is back...The problem with AF and Gt, is that theres too many plot holes. If i read some of the stories for AF on the creative writing, they all have PLOTHOLES.

Plotholes = Not thought out, rushed non canon stories

If Goku was able to power up, by lets say the Dragonballs and Goku happened to transform he would no longer be a Super Saiyan. There already enough speculation about SSj4 isn't a Super Saiyan form. Have you been defeated yet John as now you've gone of the subject: do you think goku can take the power of going super saiyan 5: No...

Madness · 01-09-2008

Wow, what's with the Sabala posts? Is someone playing a joke on us? It's like Final Ultima in DBGT form ;)

And no, no SSJ5 please. The pain is too much.... heart dying..... Super Saiyan form again trivialised....

Just no, k?

**Broly** · 01-10-2008

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Originally Posted by John Sabala

I've listen to your replys on how he could'nt transform or how that word again, "(strain)". Keeps comming up as the reason that ss5 couldn't be possible. Broly, GT DID NOT SUCK, THE ONLY REASON YOU GUYS LIKE dbz better is because DBGT didn't prolong it. It got straight to the point and the battle began. DBZ was like a soap opera, it just wouldn't get to the fight, just talk and talk for about 3 episodes, and that talk reached to fans like us and convinced some of you fans that it might be impossilble to take it to the next level. Remember when Supreme kai was shocked to see the impossiblities that these saiyans can acheive. So that is another peice of evidence that states it is possible with Goku and Vegeta. Just like Jurassic park, when 1 scientist quoted "(life finds away)". And how many times you here impossible, even in that movie. But sure enough his transform began, So if Dragonball AF had goku and vegeta transform, "(what then)". Let me guess everybody would hate it because it wasn't suppose to happen wright. Hmph, pathetic how people get so upset because it didn't go there way, because of some TALK during the earlier seasons during the series. In anime series it is always possibilities. You can figure out ways to acheive the transformation by comming up with different ideas that can work with the series. Like for an example "(A Mystical dragon ball that was created by the nameks a very long time ago and was thought to be a legend)". This ball would remove STRAIN, HAHAHAHA to a fighter so the fighter can achieve the impossibilities. But this ball can look into a fighters heart and only allows its power to do good. And the ball can see evil or goodness into a heart of a fighter trying to acheive this power. Lets just say nail speaks through piccillo, and tells them of this mystical power that Guru told him of it, when he was alive, since he was always protecting Guru. Yes, and that means piccillo can become strong too, for all you piccillo fans and any Z fighters. Ya see possibilities. It can work, so quit trying to assume that it is impossible. To any fan out there, please help me spread the word and sign the petition of Dragonball AF be made. PLEASE PEOPLE NO MORE BAD TALK ABOUT DRAGONBALL GT. The song was cool, the look was cool, the transformation was cool, the ENDING SUCKED!!!!!!! BIGBANGKAMEHAMEHAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Now i have to go train myself, forgot to mention that I am a fighter myself, "(Shocked anyone)". Did someone asked how old I was ?

I just hope you're joking. :D

m.collins · 01-10-2008

Note there is really no Super Saiyan 5, DBAF is Fake and all the pics may look real but are exellent fakes

John Sabala · 01-10-2008

Listen up everybody, got something to tell you and you might find it hard to beleive or already know. there was a dragonball new series, or should I say it really isn't new its old. I found it on this web site which this fan claims to have found that there was indeed a new Dragonball series that existed. It was called Dragonball Ultimate and Kakarot and Vegeta reach to impossibilities transformation. It supposably that Vegeta finally beats Kakarot. And it was indeed that Kakarot became the bad guy. Dragonball GT did not end in 1998 i beleive it was but was really ended in 2000. after that it was called Dragonball Ultimate. Toei studios and Akirra Toriyama did not do Dragonball Ultimate, I beleive it was GT's people made them. I'm trying to find out the facts. I just wanted to share it with you fans. Ok listen up, Vegeta and Kakarot reached ss5,ss6,ss7,ss8 and Super Saiyan 9. Beleive it or not. It was called the Ultimate form for a Saiyan, And the highest they can achieve. It was suppose to air only in asia but akirra and Toei studios did not want to reach Japan and the United States. It was in VHS though when VHS was around. I'll find out. But this fans states that this store that was in Asia, says the VHS of Dragonball Ultimate was sold there. And something freakin happened that made the cops raid the damn store. Maybe it was Akirra that didn't want the tapes existing. But it did exist. If it exists, there has to be another store. The reason why Akirra and toei Studios would not admit they even exist is that they beleive it wasn't a good storyline. So the hell what, I just want to see this transformation happen when Prince Vegeta takes those forms. I'll find those tapes and prove everyone wrong that was trash talking how the transformation wouldn't happen. ha maybe if it was 500 times normal gravity you might have a chance but 10, I DONT EVEN FEEL IT.

Soon you fans will see what a saiyan looks like as a real life person, which is me. I will post a picture of what John Sabala an elite soldier that looks like a saiyan. well you tell me and guess my age. No joke, you will see if I look like a saiyan if it was real. Since I do train hard and I like a challenge. I'll show what a real super saiyan can do. hahahaha ALL TOO EASY.

**Goku** · 01-10-2008

I'm just letting everyone know that the reason that it looks like a lot of double posts in here is because I had to merge a huge amount of posts so it just looks like that.

If it continues please let me know and I will deal with it.

**Broly** · 01-10-2008

Will do Goku.

@Sabala - The only reason I believe "DBAF" doesn't exist is because there hasn't been sufficient evidence presented to prove it does. Of course, if you show hard factual evidence that it does exist, a lot of people will obviously believe you. However, it would still be non-canon, based upon a plothole series.

01-08-2008	#47 (permalink)
LSSJ4 (4) Turtle School Disciple Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 26 Rep Power: 0	Re: do you think goku can take the power of going super saiyan 5 SS5, Nope, but maybe since Goku's with Shenron now, something like A High Saiyin or Mystic Saiyan would serve him well. Just dont have that be the whole dang story, maybe a huge climax or something to end AF. After all he is training with Shenron... What ya think?

01-09-2008	#49 (permalink)
Broly God of Death Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Walktown Posts: 7,316 Blog Entries: 1 Rep Power: 18	Re: do you think goku can take the power of going super saiyan 5 Super Saiyan 4 didn't show any signs of life threatening ki drainage. What makes you think an SSj5 state would make a Saiyan die? __________________ $E:\Avatars\fhrytuyiuio.JPG$

01-09-2008	#51 (permalink)
Broly God of Death Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Walktown Posts: 7,316 Blog Entries: 1 Rep Power: 18	Re: do you think goku can take the power of going super saiyan 5 The timelimit really has nothing to do with ki drainage. The time limit was shortened, there ki wasn't drained. Notice, that's why SSj3 Gotenks powered down to base near the end of his fight with Shin Buu. He ran out of energy first, then defused second. It's not the same case with SSj4 Gogeta, and that's why I feel the SSj4 ki drain is no where near as strenuous as SSj3. __________________ $E:\Avatars\fhrytuyiuio.JPG$

01-09-2008	#53 (permalink)
John Sabala (3) Champion of Justice Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 19 Rep Power: 0	Re: do you think goku can take the power of going super saiyan 5 I've listen to your replys on how he could'nt transform or how that word again, "(strain)". Keeps comming up as the reason that ss5 couldn't be possible. Broly, GT DID NOT SUCK, THE ONLY REASON YOU GUYS LIKE dbz better is because DBGT didn't prolong it. It got straight to the point and the battle began. DBZ was like a soap opera, it just wouldn't get to the fight, just talk and talk for about 3 episodes, and that talk reached to fans like us and convinced some of you fans that it might be impossilble to take it to the next level. Remember when Supreme kai was shocked to see the impossiblities that these saiyans can acheive. So that is another peice of evidence that states it is possible with Goku and Vegeta. Just like Jurassic park, when 1 scientist quoted "(life finds away)". And how many times you here impossible, even in that movie. But sure enough his transform began, So if Dragonball AF had goku and vegeta transform, "(what then)". Let me guess everybody would hate it because it wasn't suppose to happen wright. Hmph, pathetic how people get so upset because it didn't go there way, because of some TALK during the earlier seasons during the series. In anime series it is always possibilities. You can figure out ways to acheive the transformation by comming up with different ideas that can work with the series. Like for an example "(A Mystical dragon ball that was created by the nameks a very long time ago and was thought to be a legend)". This ball would remove STRAIN, HAHAHAHA to a fighter so the fighter can achieve the impossibilities. But this ball can look into a fighters heart and only allows its power to do good. And the ball can see evil or goodness into a heart of a fighter trying to acheive this power. Lets just say nail speaks through piccillo, and tells them of this mystical power that Guru told him of it, when he was alive, since he was always protecting Guru. Yes, and that means piccillo can become strong too, for all you piccillo fans and any Z fighters. Ya see possibilities. It can work, so quit trying to assume that it is impossible. To any fan out there, please help me spread the word and sign the petition of Dragonball AF be made. PLEASE PEOPLE NO MORE BAD TALK ABOUT DRAGONBALL GT. The song was cool, the look was cool, the transformation was cool, the ENDING SUCKED!!!!!!! BIGBANGKAMEHAMEHAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!! Now i have to go train myself, forgot to mention that I am a fighter myself, "(Shocked anyone)". Did someone asked how old I was ? Last edited by John Sabala; 01-09-2008 at 05:01 PM.

01-09-2008	#55 (permalink)
Madness Commander Madness (29) King of Soul Society Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Seeing how long I can make this entry, simply for lol reasons. Maybe I can make it stretch to the o- Posts: 8,811 Blog Entries: 9 Rep Power: 128	Re: do you think goku can take the power of going super saiyan 5 Wow, what's with the Sabala posts? Is someone playing a joke on us? It's like Final Ultima in DBGT form ;) And no, no SSJ5 please. The pain is too much.... heart dying..... Super Saiyan form again trivialised.... Just no, k? __________________

01-10-2008	#57 (permalink)
m.collins (17) Super Saiyan Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 695 Blog Entries: 4 Rep Power: 11	Re: do you think goku can take the power of going super saiyan 5 Note there is really no Super Saiyan 5, DBAF is Fake and all the pics may look real but are exellent fakes __________________

01-10-2008	#58 (permalink)
John Sabala (3) Champion of Justice Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 19 Rep Power: 0	Merged Posts. Listen up everybody, got something to tell you and you might find it hard to beleive or already know. there was a dragonball new series, or should I say it really isn't new its old. I found it on this web site which this fan claims to have found that there was indeed a new Dragonball series that existed. It was called Dragonball Ultimate and Kakarot and Vegeta reach to impossibilities transformation. It supposably that Vegeta finally beats Kakarot. And it was indeed that Kakarot became the bad guy. Dragonball GT did not end in 1998 i beleive it was but was really ended in 2000. after that it was called Dragonball Ultimate. Toei studios and Akirra Toriyama did not do Dragonball Ultimate, I beleive it was GT's people made them. I'm trying to find out the facts. I just wanted to share it with you fans. Ok listen up, Vegeta and Kakarot reached ss5,ss6,ss7,ss8 and Super Saiyan 9. Beleive it or not. It was called the Ultimate form for a Saiyan, And the highest they can achieve. It was suppose to air only in asia but akirra and Toei studios did not want to reach Japan and the United States. It was in VHS though when VHS was around. I'll find out. But this fans states that this store that was in Asia, says the VHS of Dragonball Ultimate was sold there. And something freakin happened that made the cops raid the damn store. Maybe it was Akirra that didn't want the tapes existing. But it did exist. If it exists, there has to be another store. The reason why Akirra and toei Studios would not admit they even exist is that they beleive it wasn't a good storyline. So the hell what, I just want to see this transformation happen when Prince Vegeta takes those forms. I'll find those tapes and prove everyone wrong that was trash talking how the transformation wouldn't happen. ha maybe if it was 500 times normal gravity you might have a chance but 10, I DONT EVEN FEEL IT. Soon you fans will see what a saiyan looks like as a real life person, which is me. I will post a picture of what John Sabala an elite soldier that looks like a saiyan. well you tell me and guess my age. No joke, you will see if I look like a saiyan if it was real. Since I do train hard and I like a challenge. I'll show what a real super saiyan can do. hahahaha ALL TOO EASY. Last edited by Goku; 01-10-2008 at 10:55 AM. Reason: More multiple posting

01-10-2008	#59 (permalink)
Goku Administrator Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Pureland Posts: 3,219 Blog Entries: 1 Rep Power: 20	Re: do you think goku can take the power of going super saiyan 5 I'm just letting everyone know that the reason that it looks like a lot of double posts in here is because I had to merge a huge amount of posts so it just looks like that. If it continues please let me know and I will deal with it. __________________ Goku's DeviantArt <3 Teecee for the awesome sig

01-10-2008	#60 (permalink)
Broly God of Death Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Walktown Posts: 7,316 Blog Entries: 1 Rep Power: 18	Re: do you think goku can take the power of going super saiyan 5 Will do Goku. @Sabala - The only reason I believe "DBAF" doesn't exist is because there hasn't been sufficient evidence presented to prove it does. Of course, if you show hard factual evidence that it does exist, a lot of people will obviously believe you. However, it would still be non-canon, based upon a plothole series. __________________ $E:\Avatars\fhrytuyiuio.JPG$