Renji vs Yammy

G.O.A.T. · 02-24-2008

This section is a bit dead so

Renji Bankai at his strongest Vs Yammy

**Zer0** · 02-24-2008

Yami.

Renji using Bankai during the Soul Society Arc was weaker than an unreleased Byakuya. Yami didn't take Shikai Ichigo as a threat at all. He's improved since then but...yeah...

Eliwood21 · 02-24-2008

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Originally Posted by Zer0

Yami didn't take Shikai Ichigo as a threat at all. He's improved since then but...yeah...

Well, that is Yammy for you; retarded as hell. Couldn't tell who is a threat or garbage.

As for a fight between Yammy and Renji... perhaps Yammy would win.

If he used a cero on Hihio Zabimaru much like how Byakuya did...Renji would have a huge problem keeping up in the fight.

**Zer0** · 02-24-2008

You also have to consider that Ichigo took Yami as a serious threat when he used Bankai after his Zanpaktou blocked Yami's fist. So Yami is at least around the same range as Shikai Ichigo given he went to Bankai. Shikai Ichigo is stronger than Kenpachi (Eye Patch Removed) who is more than twice as strong as Kenpachi with his eye patch on who is comparable to unreleased Byakuya who is stronger than Bankai Renji...

Eliwood21 · 02-24-2008

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Originally Posted by Zer0

You also have to consider that Ichigo took Yami as a serious threat when he used Bankai after his Zanpaktou blocked Yami's fist. So Yami is at least around the same range as Shikai Ichigo given he went to Bankai. Shikai Ichigo is stronger than Kenpachi (Eye Patch Removed) who is more than twice as strong as Kenpachi with his eye patch on who is comparable to unreleased Byakuya who is stronger than Bankai Renji...

True, but could you not also argue that Ichigo went to Bankai in order to obtain revenge for the wreck known as Chad?

Masked_Felix · 02-25-2008

Kenpachi's strength listed that way isn't really valid anymore. There is no way in the world that, even now, Shikai Ichigo could do jack squat to Nnoitora. It makes more sense that Kenpachi wasn't fighting with his all against Ichigo. His power grew with Ichigo's. He seems not to realize that the greater the enemy, the stronger he gets because he subconciously draws out more power. If he's like Ichigo, he can't control his Reitsu very well because he has so much of it. So, if I'm correct, he fights more powerfully when the enemy is stronger and he pulls out more of his huge Reitsu bank. We've yet to see him cap out, unless he does so soon against Nnoitora.

Also, it was taking Shikai Byakuya to fight Bankai Renji, no? I think that part of this current power confusion is that Ichigo wasn't really superior to Byakuya in power, or with the skill of his Bankai. It was just his speed. When he fought Grimmjow, that's what was noted. His speed, and not his power. It could be that Renji would be able to manage against Yammy and prevail, though it would certainly not be easy, and he wouldn't get away unscathed.

One last thing. Eliwood, you know that you can still see Rukia's head through the wedding veil, don't you?

Eliwood21 · 02-25-2008

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Originally Posted by Masked_Felix

It makes more sense that Kenpachi wasn't fighting with his all against Ichigo. His power grew with Ichigo's. He seems not to realize that the greater the enemy, the stronger he gets because he subconciously draws out more power.

It could be that Renji would be able to manage against Yammy and prevail, though it would certainly not be easy, and he wouldn't get away unscathed.

One last thing. Eliwood, you know that you can still see Rukia's head through the wedding veil, don't you?

I agree with you about Kenpachi. Makes alot of sense that he is becoming so strong(unless there was a hell lot of secret training during all of this).

I suppose Renji could win. I mean, it's not like he is fighting a person on Byakuya's level(or intelligence).

And what?! Where? You know I cannot see colors that well. =/
If you are saying about figure, there is no way you could tell with the original picture; her head wasn't fitting the veil anyways.

JAIF · 02-27-2008

Renji at his strongest (Hueco Mundo arc)? If so, then Renji - he did actually do physical damage to Szayel-Apporo with Shikai alone. If it is before the training with Chad, then, through the aforementioned trail of thought, Yammy.

Jonny America · 03-01-2008

I personally think that if Shikai Ichigo wasn't being tutored by his Hallow, he would've taken Yami with ease. He lopped his arm off, did he not?

**Zer0** · 03-01-2008

In Bankai.

Jonny America · 03-01-2008

Oh. Lol, disregard my last post.

**SS2 Vegeto** · 03-04-2008

Yammy managed to avoid losing other limbs or taking fatal injuries after being cut multiple times by Ichigo at bankai. He's at least comparable to Ichigo at shikai.

Kenpachi was fighting with his all against Ichigo, otherwise he would not have broken down and shouted at the sky how he wanted to be stronger. He also would have shown some signs of adaptation during their fight in response to Ichigo's growing strength, rather than increasing his effort until Ichigo had adapted to his own abilities, and then falling short. Kenpachi was clearly much stronger when he first arrived in Hueco Mundo, otherwise he would not have been able to do anything at the start. Nnoitra gave him the opportunity to adapt by toying around. Kenpachi's reiatsu sharpened under the pressure of Nnoitra's grinding down against it. It wouldn't work if he wasn't at a good disadvantage.

Byakuya was able to keep up with the attacks without releasing, disrupted his bankai's power with hadō, and restrained his movements with bakudō before he could initiate another attack. He only released shikai once momentarily during that fight.

Kuchiki Byakuya: "I see. By focussing all of your bankai's power...into that small blade...you can fight with maximum force at super high speed."

^ His power changes. All powers/abilities of bankai are the result of a vast expansion, or in Ichigo's case, compression of reiatsu, in which case their spiritual pressure is multiplied regardless of the nature of the abilities.

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Zer0 Moderator Join Date: May 2006 Location: Hn, None of your business Posts: 8,611 Blog Entries: 3 Rep Power: 37	Re: Renji vs Yammy You also have to consider that Ichigo took Yami as a serious threat when he used Bankai after his Zanpaktou blocked Yami's fist. So Yami is at least around the same range as Shikai Ichigo given he went to Bankai. Shikai Ichigo is stronger than Kenpachi (Eye Patch Removed) who is more than twice as strong as Kenpachi with his eye patch on who is comparable to unreleased Byakuya who is stronger than Bankai Renji... __________________ \|Work in Progress Signature\| \|Bleach Power Levels\| \|Movie Power Levels\| \|Databook Statistics\|

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Jonny America (25) Kami of Earth Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: America Posts: 3,918 Blog Entries: 1 Rep Power: 30	Re: Renji vs Yammy I personally think that if Shikai Ichigo wasn't being tutored by his Hallow, he would've taken Yami with ease. He lopped his arm off, did he not? __________________

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SS2 Vegeto Super Moderator Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: In God's Hands Posts: 9,092 Rep Power: 20	Re: Renji vs Yammy Yammy managed to avoid losing other limbs or taking fatal injuries after being cut multiple times by Ichigo at bankai. He's at least comparable to Ichigo at shikai. Kenpachi was fighting with his all against Ichigo, otherwise he would not have broken down and shouted at the sky how he wanted to be stronger. He also would have shown some signs of adaptation during their fight in response to Ichigo's growing strength, rather than increasing his effort until Ichigo had adapted to his own abilities, and then falling short. Kenpachi was clearly much stronger when he first arrived in Hueco Mundo, otherwise he would not have been able to do anything at the start. Nnoitra gave him the opportunity to adapt by toying around. Kenpachi's reiatsu sharpened under the pressure of Nnoitra's grinding down against it. It wouldn't work if he wasn't at a good disadvantage. Byakuya was able to keep up with the attacks without releasing, disrupted his bankai's power with hadō, and restrained his movements with bakudō before he could initiate another attack. He only released shikai once momentarily during that fight. Kuchiki Byakuya: "I see. By focussing all of your bankai's power...into that small blade...you can fight with maximum force at super high speed." ^ His power changes. All powers/abilities of bankai are the result of a vast expansion, or in Ichigo's case, compression of reiatsu, in which case their spiritual pressure is multiplied regardless of the nature of the abilities. __________________