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Old 05-18-2008   #1231 (permalink)
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Well he could fire one of those psychic lances with the power of an exploding sun concentrated into a laser beam.
You know the one the threw at Horus.
He wouldn't even need one of those. If he's anywhere faster than the Primarches he'd simply beat Itachi to a bloody pulp.

Astner, you seem to know stuff about WH40K. Check out the fanfic I posted in the Writing part of the forum. Someone else wrote it, and it's a fanfic about the end of the 40k universe. Y'know, the prophesised Wolftime etc etc
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Tien from DBZ at his strongest. He could split into four and kick Itachi all over the room.
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Pein will beat Itachi's sharingan ass up and down till he gets bored!
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Pein will beat Itachi's sharingan ass up and down till he gets bored!
That's funny; In a battle with Pein, I think the one getting bored would be the other guy.


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Everyone: *groan*




Itachi would assfuck Tien with any of his Mangekyou Sharingan techniques. At this point, I think he would beat Pein, too, since Pein has shown no defense against Susano'o and its weapons.
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Hrm, forgotten as usual.

How Alakazam > Itachi:

Itachi: -Genjutsu!-
Alakazam: -Knows beforehand and counters-
Itachi: Wtf? -Ninjutsu!-
Alakazam: -Knows beforehand and activates Light Screen-
Itachi: Grr. -Taijutsu-
Alakazam: -Knows beforehand, activates Miracle Eye, and uses Psychic on Itachi-
Itachi: -Was a Shadow Clone- I'm over here. -Powerful Ninjutsu / Exploding Shadow Clone-
Alakazam: -Knows beforehand and uses Psybeam to reverse Ninjutsu-
Itachi: Hm, looks like I need to use that Jutsu.
Alakazam: -Knows beforehand, and makes Itachi forget how to effectively use Mangekyou-
Itachi: ?
Alakazam: -Activates Psychic powers to Force crush Itachi-
Itachi: -Sharingan copies Psychic and tries Psychic but fails horribly-
Alakazam: -Forsaw the attempt at copying Psychic powers and used the failure to catch Itachi off-guard w/ Psychic-
Itachi: Haha, ninja deception! -Was a Shadow Clone, and comes at Alakazam w/ Genjutsu sword-
Alakazam: -Knows beforehand, teleports, and uses psychic powers to force Itachi to stab himself-
Itachi: -Is fucked-
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Hrm, forgotten as usual.

How Alakazam > Itachi:

Itachi: -Genjutsu!-
Alakazam: -Knows beforehand and counters-
Itachi: Wtf? -Ninjutsu!-
Alakazam: -Knows beforehand and activates Light Screen-
Itachi: Grr. -Taijutsu-
Alakazam: -Knows beforehand, activates Miracle Eye, and uses Psychic on Itachi-
Itachi: -Was a Shadow Clone- I'm over here. -Powerful Ninjutsu / Exploding Shadow Clone-
Alakazam: -Knows beforehand and uses Psybeam to reverse Ninjutsu-
Itachi: Hm, looks like I need to use that Jutsu.
Alakazam: -Knows beforehand, and makes Itachi forget how to effectively use Mangekyou-
Itachi: ?
Alakazam: -Activates Psychic powers to Force crush Itachi-
Itachi: -Sharingan copies Psychic and tries Psychic but fails horribly-
Alakazam: -Forsaw the attempt at copying Psychic powers and used the failure to catch Itachi off-guard w/ Psychic-
Itachi: Haha, ninja deception! -Was a Shadow Clone, and comes at Alakazam w/ Genjutsu sword-
Alakazam: -Knows beforehand, teleports, and uses psychic powers to force Itachi to stab himself-
Itachi: -Is fucked-
It's not as simple as "knowing beforehand" if Itachi's Sharingan perception is a factor; Alakazam can react according to Itachi's planned moves, but Itachi can likewise react to Alakazam's planned moves. And anyway, how do you expect Alakazam to go about executing this flawlessly? Game mechanics aside, I have NEVER seen an Alakazam capable of this. Lastly, the whole memory-erasing thing is still questionable. I don't think he can just make people forget how to do things, and if there is SOME limit, or SOME way to resist, I will play bullshit cards until I find it.
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That's funny; In a battle with Pein, I think the one getting bored would be the other guy.


Pein: Yarr, trick, yarr! Check out mah KUCHIYOSE NO JUTSU!!1

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What's your monologue got to do with Pein > Itachi?!

Tien will vaporize Itachi into nothingness literally! Tien is way out of Itachi's league.
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What's your monologue got to do with Pein > Itachi?!

Tien will vaporize Itachi into nothingness literally! Tien is way out of Itachi's league.
I was just sayin', Pein's a boring as hell character. >_>

Currently, he's shown no way of dealing with Susano'o. Itachi severed eight heads, so I'd think six would be a much easier task. Especially after probably picking off a few with his Amaterasu shots.

Tien would succumb to basic Genjutsu, just like very other DBZ character. End of fight.
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Abra's LeafGreen Data: Using its ability to read minds, it will sense impending danger and Teleport to safety.

Evolution is a form metemorphosis, also growing up. It's been heavily implied throughout the manga and games. As Pokémon age, their abilities further develop. When they develop enough, they evolve. Pokémon development, as you may or may not know, is a level up. Levels are stages a Pokémon reach via training. They are seen in the manga. For example, at the end of each Arc, the trainer's team is shown, along with their levels. Also, at various times, the PokéDex is shown to have a screen for levels and HP. Basically saying, a Pokémon's evolution is it's development from childhood to adulthood. They don't just forget things they once knew, especially Alakazam, who is stated to remember everything.

Alakazam's Diamond Data: Its superb memory lets it recall everything it has experienced from birth. Its IQ exceeds 5,000.

Concerning memory, Uxie is known as the Being of Knowledge in the Pokémon universe. It created all knowledge in the universe, and can take it away by looking into it's victims eyes.

Uxie's Diamond Data: Known as "The Being of Knowledge." It is said that it can wipe out the memory of those who see its eyes.

How does this say that Alakazam can do this? Read:

Alakazam's Pearl Data: Its highly developed brain is on par with a supercomputer. It can use all forms of psychic abilities.

It's also notable that Alakazam's Psychic abilities > Uxie's.


So, uh, anymore proof needed?
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Concerning memory, Uxie is known as the Being of Knowledge in the Pokémon universe. It created all knowledge in the universe, and can take it away by looking into it's victims eyes.

Uxie's Diamond Data: Known as "The Being of Knowledge." It is said that it can wipe out the memory of those who see its eyes.

How does this say that Alakazam can do this? Read:

Alakazam's Pearl Data: Its highly developed brain is on par with a supercomputer. It can use all forms of psychic abilities.
Wait, wait. That doesn't sound like a generic Psychic ability. That sounds like an ability exclusive to Uxie.

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It's also notable that Alakazam's Psychic abilities > Uxie's.
How so?

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So, uh, anymore proof needed?
It can probably be dismissed with a casual yes or no, but do the games follow a single continuity? If not, then a lot of this can be considered retconning. Which may be insignificant anyway, but you never know...
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I was just sayin', Pein's a boring as hell character. >_>

Currently, he's shown no way of dealing with Susano'o. Itachi severed eight heads, so I'd think six would be a much easier task. Especially after probably picking off a few with his Amaterasu shots.
Pein > Orochimaru. Try again.

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Concerning Uxie: I'd agree if it weren't for moves such as Amnesia. Since I know you're unfamilar, allow me to explain. Amnesia is a Psychic-type move which allows the user to erase it's own memories in order to boost it's Special. Now, what says a Pokémon can erase another's memories? Well, there's Mewtwo. There's also Celebi and a few others who have been shown to be able to do the same.

Concerning Alakazam > Uxie: Think of the Databook Stats. Every Pokémon has a Base Stat. Base Stats are the general outline of a Pokémon's stats without being affected by IVs, EVs, Natures, etc. Statistically speaking, Alakazam has a Special Attack of 135 while Uxie has a mere 75. This, of course, is knowing that Mew has a Base SpAtk of 100 and Arceus has a base Special Attack of 120. (Arceus, btw, created the universe, as well as the Dragon trio who are capable of bending reality and virtually destroying dimensions.) Anyway, these Stats are official, and aren't exactly game mechanics. Like the Databook Stats, they classify Pokémon based upon their abilities.

Games?: Yes, they do. Proof is in Red / Blue / Yellow -> Gold / Silver / Crystal. Each set is set in a different region, but there are mentions of other regions by important characters. In fact, there are many cameos in Diamond / Pearl, such as Oak's appearance or Jasmine's appearance. There was also a trainer who mentioned Prof. Elm discovering some important information on Eggs.
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Pein>Orochimaru proves nothing, because Orochimaru was leaps and bounds weaker than Itachi.

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I still think Itachi would wipe the floor with Tien, though; if explanation is needed, I can give it.

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Concerning Uxie: I'd agree if it weren't for moves such as Amnesia. Since I know you're unfamilar, allow me to explain. Amnesia is a Psychic-type move which allows the user to erase it's own memories in order to boost it's Special. Now, what says a Pokémon can erase another's memories? Well, there's Mewtwo. There's also Celebi and a few others who have been shown to be able to do the same.

Concerning Alakazam > Uxie: Think of the Databook Stats. Every Pokémon has a Base Stat. Base Stats are the general outline of a Pokémon's stats without being affected by IVs, EVs, Natures, etc. Statistically speaking, Alakazam has a Special Attack of 135 while Uxie has a mere 75. This, of course, is knowing that Mew has a Base SpAtk of 100 and Arceus has a base Special Attack of 120. (Arceus, btw, created the universe, as well as the Dragon trio who are capable of bending reality and virtually destroying dimensions.) Anyway, these Stats are official, and aren't exactly game mechanics. Like the Databook Stats, they classify Pokémon based upon their abilities.

Games?: Yes, they do. Proof is in Red / Blue / Yellow -> Gold / Silver / Crystal. Each set is set in a different region, but there are mentions of other regions by important characters. In fact, there are many cameos in Diamond / Pearl, such as Oak's appearance or Jasmine's appearance. There was also a trainer who mentioned Prof. Elm discovering some important information on Eggs.
  • Amnesia erases the user's memory, and I recall NO instance in which it was used on a target.
  • I think you're oversimplifying the connection between statistical values and attack power; Couldn't Alakazam having a higher base statistic be due to some other factor, not necessarily its proficiency with psychic abilities? Are Base Stats all guaged at the same level? It seems like an evolved Pokemon would have a naturally-higher base statistic than one that doesn't evolve. Whether or not that's Level-influenced, I don't really know.
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  • Amnesia erases the user's memory, and I recall NO instance in which it was used on a target.
  • I think you're oversimplifying the connection between statistical values and attack power; Couldn't Alakazam having a higher base statistic be due to some other factor, not necessarily its proficiency with psychic abilities? Are Base Stats all guaged at the same level? It seems like an evolved Pokemon would have a naturally-higher base statistic than one that doesn't evolve. Whether or not that's Level-influenced, I don't really know.
  • Like I said, Mewtwo and Celebi erased another's memories. The Amnesia example only showed that memory wipe is Psychic-based.
  • Yes, all at the same Level. You also don't seem to understand what Attack and Special Attack are. Attack is a statistic which rates the proficiency of physical power. For example, Machamp's Low Kick would be physical. Special Attack is the proficiency in any non-physical ability such as elements, psychic abilities, etc.
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