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Old 04-29-2008   #1171 (permalink)
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We need someone who is all-around suited to fighting Itachi, someone who can withstand intense punishment both mental and physical, and who has some sort of defense against getting sealed.
I told you before, Ganondorf.


With evidence that he could not be sealed.
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Except, yes I did. D=

Besides, it's not like ANB's brought any new material to the table.


We need someone who is all-around suited to fighting Itachi, someone who can withstand intense punishment both mental and physical, and who has some sort of defense against getting sealed.
Uh...did you ignore chapter 397...?

Because it's already been stated Itachi isn't responsible. All you did was prove me wrong about Susano'o (which isn't a big deal anyway).
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Is the manga contradicting itself then...?

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^Itachi. Is. A PUSSY.

Tobi said the IMAGES were real. He killed the clan. Itachi designed the jutsu to make Sasuge think it was him; there's no getting around it.



^Yeah, he still taunted Sasuke. Kakashi waited TWO PAGES for Itachi to activate his mangekyou. Naruto and Kurenai were toyed with; and Deidera wasn't defeated "immediately" nor did he use mangekyou sharingan or it's jutsus right out the gate.
Kakashi- Itachi knew his capabilities to a certain extent, and knew he was in no immediate danger. He was still relatively quick to dish out an insta-kill technique.

Deidara- Itachi's assignment was to get him to join Akatsuki, not kill him. Killing intent aside, Itachi still had him up his own asshole with basic Genjutsu, something most non-Naruto characters would be left defenseless against.

Naruto & Kurenai- Yet again, Itachi not only knew what he was dealing with, he also wasn't fighting to kill.


In regards to those scans, Madara never contradicted the fact that Itachi killed the clan. Though, honestly, even if he didn't, so what? Someone doesn't murder their entire extended family, and that makes them a pussy? No. Get out of my, and all threads for that matter.
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Uh...did you ignore chapter 397...?

Because it's already been stated Itachi isn't responsible. All you did was prove me wrong about Susano'o (which isn't a big deal anyway).
397, Madara admitted to helping Itachi.

398, Madara confirmed that Itachi was almost entirely the one responsible.
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Kakashi- Itachi knew his capabilities to a certain extent, and knew he was in no immediate danger. He was still relatively quick to dish out an insta-kill technique.

Deidara- Itachi's assignment was to get him to join Akatsuki, not kill him. Killing intent aside, Itachi still had him up his own asshole with basic Genjutsu, something most non-Naruto characters would be left defenseless against.

Naruto & Kurenai- Yet again, Itachi not only knew what he was dealing with, he also wasn't fighting to kill.


In regards to those scans, Madara never contradicted the fact that Itachi killed the clan. Though, honestly, even if he didn't, so what? Someone doesn't murder their entire extended family, and that makes them a pussy? No. Get out of my, and all threads for that matter.
1-Except....Itachi didn't kill him.

2-But he could have immobilized Deidera immediately. He chose to set him up and see what he could do.

3-Which basically translates to "he was playing around". You just killed your own arguement.

4-No, Madara said "It was ME". He said the "images" were real. He's a pussy because he apparently does not kill people.

It means he won't kill opponents in these versus matches :o Or, the manga is contradicting itself.
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1-Except....Itachi didn't kill him.

2-But he could have immobilized Deidera immediately. He chose to set him up and see what he could do.

3-Which basically translates to "he was playing around". You just killed your own arguement.

4-No, Madara said "It was ME". He said the "images" were real. He's a pussy because he apparently does not kill people.

It means he won't kill opponents in these versus matches :o Or, the manga is contradicting itself.
1. Except...Itachi wasn't trying to, and the circumstances didn't call for it. Lee never tried to kill Naruto or Sasuke but don't you think if put in a death match against Oolong he would beat him into bacon grease?
2. Because that was his assignment. He wasn't allowed to kill Deidara, so he figured he might as well see what tricks he had up his sleeve. Makes no difference, because incapacitation via Genjutsu is just as good as killing, only not as messy.
3. No it doesn't; you are being a twit right nao.
4. Madara said he helped Itachi, and that Itachi was the one responsible. Unless you can show me an explicit statement otherwise, I think you need to stfu and get out mah threadz nao.


These matches are based around the presupposition that both combatants are fighting to kill. Not necessarily bloodlusted, but to the point that they both have something to kill eachother over.
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^Is this explicit enough for you, fanboy...?

"You asked Itachi yourself, about the person who helped him that night..."

"It was me. Uchiha Madara,".

Not to mention:

"He was an outstanding example for Konoha. He truly cared about his little brother".
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^Is this explicit enough for you, fanboy...?

"You asked Itachi yourself, about the person who helped him that night..."

"It was me. Uchiha Madara,".

Not to mention:

"He was an outstanding example for Konoha. He truly cared about his little brother".
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^Different translation from what I read.

"He killed his sense of self...in order to complete the mission"

Yeah...Itachi couldn't bring himself to do it...We should honestly wait until the next chapter and get the whole story.

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Meanwhile, Luffy v. Itachi. Tsukuyomi can't work on him when he uses Gomu Gomu No Baka.
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"He killed himself in order to complete the mission"

The mission of killing the clan. Which he killed himself to do. And did. According to your quote.

I really can't make it any simpler than that.

Also, my memory is a little fuzzy. What's Gomu Gomu no Baka?
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Gomu Gomu no Baka=Turning his brain off. Deal with THAT.

Also, Luigi's Negative Zone (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qMWxvltAfeU) technique from Brawl renders anyone within the field useless. If he used it on Itachi, he'd been slumped, drowzy, and unable to lift a finger.

@Nikushimi: Don't you dare cop-out by saying "he'd have to set up the situation"--the same can be said about mangekyou sharingan techniques: they CANNOT be used right out the gate either :/
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ANB, good point: Itachi's technique, whilst strong, is not exactly unbeatable. There are many techniques like it in fictiondom. I'm reading a lot of YYH atm, and those guys who use territories have an ability that could possibly beat him.

The whole territory thing is where the user creates a space-time around them where reality is basically their playground and has to follow the rules they set (like Kaito said). They vary, but can have a large radius (Sniper's). Some could even be set so they run 24/7 (Gourmet). The most interesting facet of territories was shown with Game master. Hiei was trying to summon fire to burn GM, but he couldn't, as the territory didn't allow anything outside of the rules, which included using powers and enhanced abilities. Kaito also showed it, as violence couldn't be used in his territory. So, what if someone with a territory radius like Sniper (200 metres?) sets his territory to run 24/7, and makes it so that no special powers can be used in his territory.

Going up against an opponent like that, Itachi can't use any of his special abilities (Tsukiyomi) within the radius of the territory, and can't use his superior physical abilities against them. It also pointless to try and sneak up or attempt a speedblitz. I can't see how Itachi can beat something like that yet.
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0_o that is all i have to say....

Well that is a good point...what if Itachi where to fight a Pokemon like, Giant Claydoll? He couldn't use Tsukuyomei (incorret spelling) becuase Claydoll's mind is different, Amaterasu would barely do anything since clay doll is made of clay and can do that freaky spinny thing, and Susanoo would maybe work but claydoll is huge and made of rock hard clay sooooooo....yah. My money is on claydoll.
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